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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Mar-05-11 12:09 PM
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This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
   
seems to be gaining a lot more momentum than a thought that stupid ever should.

"Teachers should have to contribute more toward their retirement." or "why should I pay for some snowplow driver's health care? I pay for my own." Or some such nonsense; I'm hearing comments like that all the time and here is the explanation I generally hand out.

Benefits are part of your pay. You are payed wages and benefits; the aggregate of the two is the currency for which you are exchanging your labor.

Benefits are not some hunks of unicorn shit falling from a rainbow. The teacher, the snowplow driver, and everybody else who works for a paycheck has earned their benefits just as they have earned their wages. And as such they are entitled to those benefits, which is why they are called "entitlements". So stop saying that like it was a bad thing.

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Yet you have no problem taking from others who have earned their pay and handing it over to the govt.
The govt then takes part of that money and hands it to someone who has to do nothing but fill out a few forms to get that money. The person who gets that money probably also gets free healthcare which is also paid from the money taken from others.

Tax dollars are not hunks of unicorn shit falling from a rainbow. They come from people who work hard for that money only to have it taken so someone else can have it.

So excuse the hell out of the taxpayer for expecting govt workers to do what we have to do and contribute to our own benefits. We pay for our health insurance and our pensions. If that is good enough for us it sure as hell is good enough for govt employees. The rest of us have our belts so tightened that we can't even breathe so it's about time govt workers start to feel some of the pain imposed on the rest of us by the same govt that employs these people.



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Re: This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 11:57:54 AM »
**** off you leeches. Stay the hell out of my life and pocket. Stop telling me what lightbulbs to use, what car to drive and what to eat. Take care of yourself and I will take care of my family. Keep you nose out of my business and worry about your own damn selves. 

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Re: This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 12:14:01 PM »
**** off you leeches. Stay the hell out of my life and pocket. Stop telling me what lightbulbs to use, what car to drive and what to eat. Take care of yourself and I will take care of my family. Keep you nose out of my business and worry about your own damn selves. 

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Re: This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 12:52:19 PM »
**** off you leeches. Stay the hell out of my life and pocket. Stop telling me what lightbulbs to use, what car to drive and what to eat. Take care of yourself and I will take care of my family. Keep you nose out of my business and worry about your own damn selves. 
Unfortunately, thanks to the regulation they are so proud of, we can't get rid of these leeches.  They've pushed so hard for so much regulation in the name of "safety" that we each spend thousands of dollars a year supporting their paranoia.  You can't get a drink of water, eat one meal, see your doctor, drive your car or send your kids to school without paying for their tons and tons of wasteful regulation.
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Re: This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 02:01:28 PM »
Unfortunately, thanks to the regulation they are so proud of, we can't get rid of these leeches.  They've pushed so hard for so much regulation in the name of "safety" that we each spend thousands of dollars a year supporting their paranoia.  You can't get a drink of water, eat one meal, see your doctor, drive your car or send your kids to school without paying for their tons and tons of wasteful regulation.
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Re: This idea that benefits are a "handout" or somehow "free"....
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 03:32:40 PM »
Milwaukee Public Schools teachers have a pay/benefits package that averages $101K.