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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 01:42:43 AM »
Meh. I thought it was a possibility, but nothing more. I'm not one of the DUmors who will delve into it like Scientology, or Xultor's....not even sure what to call it anymore...


Since the thread is here, I found reply 6 to be quite interesting. WHY would you post that personal DU info, and WHY would $kinner not consider that a high crime worthy of banishment? It is unlikely someone would use that stuff for any purpose, but for gosh sakes, it is supposed to be private, isn't it?

Anyone can go out and search whois for the registration info on a domain. That info isn't secret.  I'm not sure if 555.555.5555 is the number that you saw.  Skins said it was that way for 10 years, but some DUmmie had xxx.xxx.xxxx on one of the posts. Oh well.  Who wants to call duh skimmer?
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 02:04:58 AM »
The best thing about being a liberal, perhaps the only good thing, is there is always somebody else to blame.
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 02:30:46 AM »
Anyone can go out and search whois for the registration info on a domain. That info isn't secret.  I'm not sure if 555.555.5555 is the number that you saw.  Skins said it was that way for 10 years, but some DUmmie had xxx.xxx.xxxx on one of the posts. Oh well.  Who wants to call duh skimmer?

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 03:01:07 AM »
That's right, folks.  He blames us -- conservatives.  Multiple times.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/396

Yep.  It's not his fault for providing false information.  It's conservatives' fault.

Heehee!, That link won't work for folks still not being able to view DU proper. 

Here's his note in the DU Panic forum at Yahoo.

Tue Mar 1, 2011 1:48 pm (PST)


Here is a longer post from Skinner. (MOST people are back in)

Whenever you type a domain name for a web site into your web browser, you
computer needs to figure out where that website is. So it sends a request to
something called a DNS server, which says something like this: "I'm looking
for www.democraticunder ground.com, could you please tell me where it is?"
And then the DNS server tells your computer where to find the site. There
are many, many DNS servers in the world that handle these requests.

For 10 years, we haven't had a problem. Your computer asks for
democraticundergrou nd.com, and some DNS server somewhere would point you to
the correct place. Until yesterday, when some of the DNS servers stopped
pointing to the correct place. Here's why.

On January 20 of this year, I received an email from our domain registrar,
indicating that they had received a complaint about our "WHOIS" information
being incorrect. In other words, someone complained that the public contact
information related to the democraticundergrou nd.com domain name was wrong.
I do not know who made the request, or why. I suppose it is possible that it
came from a concerned citizen, but I think it is more likely that it was a
bored person who sent the complaint on a lark to see if they might cause us
some problems. Which they did.

I immediately logged in to our domain registrar and updated our contact
info. Some of you may be aware that Democratic Underground changed our PO
Box last year, and that had not been updated on our domain name contact
info. I changed the PO Box number and the Zip Code and clicked submit.
Received my confirmation email about the successful update of my contact
info. Domain registrar has a record of the fact that I updated our info.
Problem solved.

Except the problem wasn't solved.

What I did not realize -- and what my domain registrar did not tell me -- is
that the complaint was about the Democratic Underground PHONE NUMBER, not
the PO Box. And, indeed, the phone number on our WHOIS information is wrong:
555-555-5555. That is the phone number that has appeared on our account for
ten years, because I don't want some right-wing nut-job crank-calling me
with death threats in the middle of the night.

Put another way: This was the insidious computer glitch commonly referred to
as "human error." I get an email about out-of-date contact info. I remember
that my PO Box recently changed. I log in and change PO Box. I completely
ignore the incorrect phone number.

I did not receive any more correspondence from my domain registrar until
yesterday morning around 11:00 am, when I got an email with the ominous
title "Name Server Update Confirmation ID", which stated that my name server
had been changed. I had not requested the Name Server Update.

So I immediately go to the domain registrar's website and try to log in, but
get a message indicating that an Admin has blocked me out.

My first thought is "Holy S***. Someone's ripped off our password, logged in
to our account, gave themselves admin privileges, changed the name server,
and then blocked us out."

I immediately get on the telephone and call the domain registrar. While I'm
on hold -- for 25 minutes! -- I am frantically changing all the passwords on
all my accounts on every website I can think of.

Finally get through to a human being, start explaining my problem, and then
AT&T drops my call.

Call back, wait another 25 minutes, finally talk to a human being, who
explains that my phone number is wrong. Which is why they changed our DNS.
No "last chance" email. No "I see you changed your info but missed one
thing." They just shut it off.

I changed the phone number, and updated our DNS info. But the damage was
done.
:argh:

Even thought we had updated our DNS info, it takes a long time for the
updates to spread (or "propagate") to all the DNS servers throughout the
Internet. In fact, well after the time I corrected the DNS info, some DNS
servers had not yet received the earlier INCORRECT DNS information that was
working its way around -- let alone the correction which was way behind and
(even now) still hasn't made it to some of the darker corners of the
Internet.

They say it sometimes takes as long as 72 hours for DNS information to
propagate throughout the Internet. :(

If you are still experiencing problems, you can get around by setting your
computer to use a public DNS server. Some instructions are available here
<http://theos. in/windows- xp/free-fast- public-dns- server-list> . Google has
not been working for me, but OpenDNS has:

208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

If anyone else has any tips, feel free to post them in this thread.

Thank you for your patience and understanding. I apologize for the screw-up.

David Allen
DU Administrator
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 03:18:26 AM »
Could have been the FBI Sklns, seein' as how your minions call for the fall of our government on a daily basis, asshat!

Maybe ya oughta call up the Department of Home Security and set them straight! Hahahahahaha!!!
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 06:43:46 AM »
Skins "explains" the problem ...they wouldn't buy the old "The check is in the mail" line.
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 06:59:36 AM »
Skins "explains" the problem ...they wouldn't buy the old "The check is in the mail" line.

I'm sure it's a pie in my fellow alum's face.

Has anyone else managed to row ashore Skins's island?  I haven't.

apres moi, le deluge

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 07:15:37 AM »
You know, I haven't checked, but I'm starting to wonder if someone we all know had a hand in this.
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 07:50:47 AM »
OK, so I was half-ass listening to the radio news a few minutes ago. Said some people suffered a loss of service yesterday due to...something-R-other...so maybe Skinner is ligit.
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2011, 07:58:19 AM »
OK, so I was half-ass listening to the radio news a few minutes ago. Said some people suffered a loss of service yesterday due to...something-R-other...so maybe Skinner is ligit.

I heard it as "B"-something.  I think there was a "C" in it too, but my hearing's nonexistent.
apres moi, le deluge

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2011, 08:13:01 AM »
You know, I haven't checked, but I'm starting to wonder if someone we all know had a hand in this.

Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2011, 08:16:23 AM »
Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)

No, although it does seem to me the word ended in a "t."

But not the Eternal Crockspot.
apres moi, le deluge

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2011, 08:23:07 AM »
No, although it does seem to me the word ended in a "t."

But not the Eternal Crockspot.

I think he would have the smarts for it.... but....I don't know if he would do it or not.
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2011, 08:28:41 AM »
I think he would have the smarts for it.... but....I don't know if he would do it or not.

Of course he has more than enough smarts for it.

He's also well-known for being a principled and ethical person.

So yeah, he'd do it. 
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2011, 09:51:54 AM »
By the way folks, it appears nothing unethical happened here; no laws were broken, Skins's island wasn't hacked, no one launched a "denial of service" artillery-barrage.

Data about a domain is supposed to be accurate and up-to-date.

My fellow alum got into trouble because he didn't keep the information current, that's all.

Someone reported him, as any law-abiding citizen would do.

I have my suspect, based upon conversations with this individual in the past--I'm damned sure it's who I think it is, but there remains a small sliver of doubt, a small opening that is immediately filled in by the Pitcairn Islanders.

The combined cerebral capabilities of all the inhabitants of Pitcairn Island doesn't add up to that of my suspect, but it's higher than the combined cerebral capabilities of the whole of Skins's island.

Primitives of course are always demanding that Republicans and conservatives follow the letter of the law, and someone obviously thought what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and so Dems, liberals, and primitives should also comply with the law.

My fellow alum doesn't see anything wrong with franksolich's ratting on primitives who violate his rules for Skins's island, and the same holds true here; when someone breaks a law, or a rule, he should be ratted on.

apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2011, 10:59:02 AM »
By the way folks, it appears nothing unethical happened here; no laws were broken, Skins's island wasn't hacked, no one launched a "denial of service" artillery-barrage.

Data about a domain is supposed to be accurate and up-to-date.

My fellow alum got into trouble because he didn't keep the information current, that's all.

Someone reported him, as any law-abiding citizen would do.

I have my suspect, based upon conversations with this individual in the past--I'm damned sure it's who I think it is, but there remains a small sliver of doubt, a small opening that is immediately filled in by the Pitcairn Islanders.

The combined cerebral capabilities of all the inhabitants of Pitcairn Island doesn't add up to that of my suspect, but it's higher than the combined cerebral capabilities of the whole of Skins's island.

Primitives of course are always demanding that Republicans and conservatives follow the letter of the law, and someone obviously thought what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and so Dems, liberals, and primitives should also comply with the law.

My fellow alum doesn't see anything wrong with franksolich's ratting on primitives who violate his rules for Skins's island, and the same holds true here; when someone breaks a law, or a rule, he should be ratted on.



If he really had 555-555-5555 listed as his phone number, it could have even been something as simple as an internal audit looking for obviously false information, and it sounds like they gave him a full month to resolve the issue if he got the notice on 1/20/2011. 

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2011, 12:07:23 PM »
If he really had 555-555-5555 listed as his phone number, it could have even been something as simple as an internal audit looking for obviously false information, and it sounds like they gave him a full month to resolve the issue if he got the notice on 1/20/2011. 

Never attribute to external causes that which can be explained by your own incompetence.

Of course, these are liberals we're talking about here.  They think they're perfect, so every problem they encounter is due to external causes.

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2011, 12:19:33 PM »
Never attribute to external causes that which can be explained by your own incompetence.

Of course, these are liberals we're talking about here.  They think they're perfect, so every problem they encounter is due to external causes.

Is yer handle from Ghost in the Shell? Isn't there a hacker on that show who eludes the authorities?

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2011, 05:20:33 PM »
What amuses me to no end is that every internet registrar offers a low-cost anonymity service - If The technically-minded trio that runs the island had any common sense between them, they would have made use of that service long ago, preventing this entire fiasco.

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2011, 05:24:16 PM »
Crockspot from beyond the grave?  :-)

Where has Crockspot been ? Haven seen a post from him in months...


Edit : Never mind - I found the thread :(  I can't believe I somehow missed this - Godspeed.
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2011, 05:33:14 PM »
Where has Crockspot been ? Haven seen a post from him in months...
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2011, 05:34:10 PM »
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html

Yeah, I just found the thread - I'm stunned I missed this.

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2011, 05:35:38 PM »
Yeah, I just found the thread - I'm stunned I missed this.
Yeah...we all are worse off due to his passing...
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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2011, 05:35:49 PM »
Erm...he's dead...Jim.

Seriously, he died of a heart attack back in January:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,54726.0.html

I'm sorry, but that gave me a chuckle, and I'm sure Crockspot would understand.

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Re: Skins "explains" the problem
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2011, 05:37:45 PM »
I'm sorry, but that gave me a chuckle, and I'm sure Crockspot would understand.
As was intended...lord knows I could never one-up the man.
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