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BzaDem   (1000+ posts)             Tue Feb-22-11 12:49 AM
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Poll question: What do you feel is more important? Democracy? Or your preferred policy outcomes?
   
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 12:52 AM by BzaDem
Let's pretend there is a hypothetical nation with free and fair elections. (For the sake of argument, let's say the elections are entirely publicly-financed.)

Let's further say that the political make-up of the nation is such that for whatever reason (even if it's ignorance, strong views against one's own interest, etc), your preferred policies will never be enacted for the duration of your natural life. Ever.

Do you support the idea of a democracy, even if you will always lose on various policy views? Or do you think a government that does not subscribe to certain economic policy views is per se illegitimate, regardless of the popularity of the current policies/leaders with the people? Would you favor a peaceful, extra-constitutional transition of power to a system where your policies are enacted (regardless of their popularity with a majority of the citizenry)?

Poll result (26 votes)
Yes, I would favor the ability for such a peaceful, extra-constitutional, non-election transition to occur    (8 votes, 31%)   Vote
No, I would not favor such an outcome    (18 votes, 69%)   Vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x478466

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RandomThoughts   (1000+ posts)             Tue Feb-22-11 12:53 AM
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1. It is not possible for better results without democracy.
   
Explained that already, a totalitarian system devolves to favoritism without merit, and then corruption to hide that.

Any system has to have a way to remove the top from rule, since the top in luxury are the worst at ruling since they have so little real world experience, and any totalitarian system goes to that stagnation.


And worse, to correct it things get violent many times.

RT makes sense for a change.  The only problem is that the DemRats often rule like dictators when they have slight majorities.

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leftstreet   (1000+ posts)               Tue Feb-22-11 01:03 AM
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11. It's a creepy question
   
You make the presupposition that "my" policy preferences are counter to "democracy"

Makes no sense

Makes perfect sense.

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Ken Burch   (1000+ posts)               Tue Feb-22-11 12:54 AM
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3. Are you saying the Wisconsin Senate Democrats should surrender on collective bargaining?
   
It's not as if they could ever restore it later, you know.

And why could it not be restored later if the majority of the voters supported it?  Oh right. That won't happen will it?


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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 02:25:51 PM »
Oh for cripes sake! It's pretty bad when Random Idiocy is the genius of the thread, ain't it?
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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
Oh for cripes sake! It's pretty bad when Random Idiocy is the genius of the thread, ain't it?
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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 02:41:41 PM »
Oh for cripes sake! It's pretty bad when Random Idiocy is the genius of the thread, ain't it?

Next thing you'll tell me is that DainBramaged is making sense!
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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 04:25:18 PM »
Next thing you'll tell me is that DainBramaged is making sense!

I dunno, if it gets to that, I think the DUmp might have a meltdown!
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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 10:17:33 AM »
You can't trust internet polls.

Real results would be over 80% not 33%.
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Re: @ 1/3 of DUmmies would support a dictator if they shared their views
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 10:59:42 AM »
Only a third?  Liars.
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