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Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« on: April 08, 2008, 08:16:06 PM »
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Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances

HARRISBURG, N.C. (AP) — It wasn't until Barack Obama wrote a pair of best-selling books that he and his wife escaped their student loan debt, an experience Michelle Obama said Tuesday helps the couple understand everyday challenges better than policymakers in Washington.

"We are not so far away from life that we don't understand and get it," said Michelle Obama, wife of the Democratic presidential candidate.

Obama met with a group of about 50 women at a town-hall meeting in Harrisburg, just north of Charlotte. It was part of a daylong tour of North Carolina ahead of the state's May 6 primary.

At the Tuesday morning forum, the women said increases in the cost of gas, education and health care — along with an unstable job market — have taken a toll.

"The truth is most Americans don't want much," Obama said. "Folks don't want the whole pie. Most Americans feel blessed to thrive a little bit — but that's out of reach for them."

Obama told the crowd that when she and her husband left law school, the monthly payments on their school loan debt was more than their monthly mortgage payment. She said they only got out of that debt when Barack Obama wrote his two books, "The Audacity of Hope" and "Dreams from My Father."

Both Obamas graduated from Harvard Law School.

Most of the Obamas' income in 2006, when they had $991,296 in annual income, came from royalties on the books. That was down from the nearly $1.7 million they took in 2005, a total also boosted by a book deal. The Obamas have not released their 2007 tax returns, but have pledged to do so later this month.

Obama's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination — New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton — reported earning $20.4 million along with her husband in 2007. Since leaving the White House, the Clintons have made nearly $109 million, much of it coming from book deals and Bill Clinton's speeches.

At a later stop in Winston-Salem, Michelle Obama said each time her husband exceeds expectations in the presidential race, the standard changes.

"They tell you to raise money, you raise money," she said. "They tell you to build an organization, and you build an organization.

"And you work hard and you reach that bar. Sometimes you surpass the bar and you look around and all of a sudden the bar has moved. The bar has changed on you and you wonder what happened."

Obama said students face a similar plight, surpassing the standards needed to get into college only to struggle with the rising costs of tuition. It's no difference with the nation's seniors, she said, who are discovering their pensions don't pay enough to cover the rising costs of living.

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this is just beyond ridiculous.

if people fall for the story of impoverishment that these two ivy league educated lawyers are peddling, then
they deserve what they get.  when The BarackStar! was doing whatever he was doing in whatever kind of
school that he was in when he lived in indonesia (or where the hell ever), john mccain was a prisoner of war
at the hanoi hilton.  so try to sell "hard life" somewhere else, chick, we're stocked up here.

and if michelle is "cheated" (as nearly as I can figure from her mindless rantings, that seems to be her problem) by
the vicissitudes of a political campaign, then she is going to fun to watch if there is a president BarackStar!


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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 09:10:16 PM »
Oh cut me a friggin break!!!!!!
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

Spread my work ethic, not my wealth.

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 09:13:11 PM »
Oh cut me a friggin break!!!!!!

"it wasn't that long ago that we weren't millionaires". :whatever: :banghead: :censored:

of course, tony rezko took care of them back then.

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 09:14:54 PM »
^Sounds like a lame attempt to distant themselves from the wealthy Clintons since we all know how much money they raked in.

Go sell stupid someplace else Michelle, we're all full here in America.
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 09:27:52 PM »
^Sounds like a lame attempt to distant themselves from the wealthy Clintons since we all know how much money they raked in.

Go sell stupid someplace else Michelle, we're all full here in America.

odd that she was never proud of her country until her country acted like it may make her husband president.  seems like making them millionaires would have been a fairly pride inducing event.


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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 09:39:38 PM »
another newspaper cut the same story differently;  get a load of THIS :

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Should she become first lady, she said she'd focus on family issues.

"If we don't wake up as a nation with a new kind of leadership...for how we want this country to work, then we won't get universal health care," she said.

"The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more."

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my freaking blood just ran cold.

most liberals aren't so open and honest about their desire to redistribute wealth, and to confiscate some
portion of other people's income.

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 09:13:56 AM »
Holy crap. They are audacious aren't they???? Arrogant and audacious. How much of their personal fortune will they give up??? None!
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 10:12:54 AM »
Holy crap. They are audacious aren't they???? Arrogant and audacious. How much of their personal fortune will they give up??? None!

the title of his book is, The Audacity of Arrogance, isn't it? :-)

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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 11:13:02 AM »
I'm short on pity here. Nobody forced them to go to Harvard and take out ridiculous loans to finance it, but no doubt they had big dreams. Fine and good--big dreams often cost big money. I'm sure despite paying for student loans that were more then their mortgage they were also make more money then the average Americans they claim to be trying to relate to. I doubt anyone here is jealous of these two, but trying to equate themselves to the average person is a stretch. What is their point? That people shouldn't pay a penny of their college education? That they are going to forgive loans enmasse? Come on, I have student loans for the education I'm getting. I think they are worth the end result and I find myself working harder then when someone else footed the bill. Let people feel the pain of decisions whether good ones or bad...life is made of that and character is built on it.


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Re: Michelle Obama Talks Couple's Finances
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2008, 11:26:30 AM »
Now wait a minute, didn't Michelle earn like over 100k as a hospital admin and then end up making over 300k? Why yes, and it's even worse than you think -

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In January of 2005 Barack Obama became a freshman United States senator. In March of 2005 Mrs. Obama received a promotion at her place of employment, the not-for-profit University of Chicago Hospitals. Prior to the promotion, she was a hospital administrator earning $121,910 annually. Her promotion provided her with a title -- Vice-President for Community and External Affairs -- and a salary of $316,962.

There is no coincidence here. There is absolutely no doubt that Mrs. Obama received a salary increase of $195, 052 simply because her husband had become a senator. If one denies the causal relationship between the two events, then one has decided to allow their politics to cloud their judgment. The position of Vice-President for Community and External Affairs did not exist prior to the creation of the position for Mrs. Obama, and now that Mrs. Obama has resigned from the position in order to campaign for her husband, the hospital has not seen the need to fill the open position. To suggest that Mrs. Obama's work efforts had suddenly justified a weekly increase in pay of $3751 is ludicrous.

No one at the University of Chicago Hospitals was able to exactly explain the duties of the person who holds the ambiguous title of Vice-President for Community and External Affairs, but they all seemed to agree that the duties had something to do with public relations. I know that I lack sophistication and that my worldly knowledge is somewhat limited, but I think that I speak for a great number of average Joes who just cannot understand why a hospital would need to pay a public relations person a salary of $316,962.

Perhaps of more importance is the disparity between the salary of Mrs. Obama, PR-woman-extraordinaire, and the salary of the truly important people that work in a hospital. The average salary for an anesthesiologist in Chicago as of February 18th is $215,000. Are we to believe that a public relations person is so important that she deserves a salary that is over $100,000 greater than that of the person that, through general anesthesia and of necessity, takes us closer to death than we ever want to be and through practiced skill always brings us back from the precipice?

The situation becomes even more grotesque. In justifying the $195,000 increase in Mrs. Obama's salary, University of Chicago Hospitals spokesman John Easton told the Tribune that Mrs. Obama's salary is in line with the salaries of the sixteen other vice presidents at the hospital. Mr. Easton glibly admits that the University of Chicago Hospitals had seventeen overpaid executives. If we take Mrs. Obama as our benchmark, we can assume that each executive is overpaid in the amount of at least $200,000. Some may accuse me of being overly simplistic, but I am absolutely certain that the salaries of the executives of the University of Chicago Hospitals could be immediately reduced by $3.4 million and the hospital system would suffer absolutely no adverse effects.
http://jaajoe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=1

and then there is this -
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In among them was a request for $1 million in federal funding in 2006 for a new pavilion at the University of Chicago Hospitals, where his wife, Michelle Obama, was a vice president at the time. The request was not ultimately included when Congress passed spending legislation that year, according to the Obama campaign.

Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said the senator did not discuss the requests with either his wife or Crown. Vietors also said that Michelle Obama never lobbied for her employer and noted that the University of Chicago hospitals is the largest Medicaid provider in Chicago.
http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/michelle_obamas_hospital.html

Okay, notice that last part? Michelle's employer was the largest Medicad provider in Chicago. Govt funded healthcare. And she can honestly look the American public in the eye with straight face when she talks about the cost of healthcare? Audacious indeed!!!!!

Let's take a look at Michelle "I earned $300k a year at a public hospital" Obama's thoughts on our healthcare system:

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Michelle Obama's speech given on the UCLA campus on February 5th. In her speech she made the following statement: “Don't get sick in this country. Not here. Americans are in debt not because they live frivolously, but because someone got sick. And even with insurance, the deductibles and premiums are so high that people are still putting medication treatments on credit cards and they cannot get out from under.”


Michelle, you can sit on a tack!!! :censored: :bird:
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

Spread my work ethic, not my wealth.

Forget change, bring back common sense.
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No, my friends, there’s only one really progressive idea. And that is the idea of legally limiting the power of the government. That one genuinely liberal, genuinely progressive idea — the Why in 1776, the How in 1787 — is what needs to be conserved. We need to conserve that fundamentally liberal idea. That is why we are conservatives. --Bill Whittle