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Offline cavegal

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Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« on: February 18, 2011, 12:11:36 PM »
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49814.html

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A high-ranking aide to Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told Democratic chiefs of staff that a government shutdown is more likely than not, according to attendees.

Speaking at a regular meeting of the top aides to House Democrats, Pelosi’s floor director, Jerry Hartz, offered up, unprompted, his assessment that the odds favor inaction before the government runs out of money, sources said.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 12:49:24 PM »
Now is when you wish government was run like a business, you could lay off certain people and departments.... :-)
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 12:58:17 PM »
Our local NBC news station had a clip of Reid saying the same thing, that a government shutdown was likely.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 01:03:27 PM »
If they dock everyones pay, president included, it suits the hell out of me.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 02:01:50 PM »
The only thing that gets the attention of the entitlement class is being torn from the teats when the sow runs dry and she saunters off. Oh how they squeal, music to my ears! :yahoo:
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »
I know the government shut down in 1995, but the economy was recovering, unlike this one.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 02:40:32 PM »
It was uncharted territory in 1995, the Dems are sorely mistaken if they think it'll have the same impact now.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 05:06:26 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on February 18, 2011, 01:03:27 PM
If they dock everyones pay, president included, it suits the hell out of me.
As a full-time fed employee who works in an admin branch I can tell you the deal is, at least as far as military goes:

Absent a CRA or budget all fed employees noot deployed to forward combat zones or in direct support of those units will cease doing their jobs.

We sit at home/barracks/whatever.

We will not be issued paychecks at regularly scheduled pay periods but once CRA/budget passes we will receive pay at next scheduled period with all back-pay.

Alas, the mortgage is still due but I have a savings, for a bit.

Sorry kids
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 05:12:51 PM »
^yeah that. My husband works for Uncle Sam. I gotta ask, have the lawmakers offered themselves up for taking a pay cut or reduction in benefits? Hubby is probably getting a pay freeze....
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 05:33:23 PM »
Would that mean ALL government workers are laid off until further notice if the government were to shut down?  Not just DC?
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 08:54:35 PM »
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2011, 09:08:07 AM »
Stretch says shutting down the government like it's a bad thing...
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 09:15:29 AM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on February 18, 2011, 05:33:23 PM
Would that mean ALL government workers are laid off until further notice if the government were to shut down?  Not just DC?

No, those deemed 'Key and essential' stay on...mayber 5 to 15 percent of the DOD civilian workforce, everyone else has to go home.  The uniformed military stays on duty but all non-critical travel, like schools etc., stops immediately, as does all spending besides things like troop subsistence.  Fed law enforcement agencies would have a higher 'Key and essential' level, probably the highest - functions that would represent an immediate threat to public safety or national security if they shut down will continue to function, at a reduced level of effectiveness of course.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 09:32:42 AM »
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functions that would represent an immediate threat to public safety or national security if they shut down will continue to function, at a reduced level of effectiveness of course.

As far as securing borders, can they be any less effective?
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 01:25:30 PM »
IMHO, given the Obama ass-backward priorities, border enforcement is iffy as to whether it would be treated as 'Law enforcement' or 'National security' essential, the Leftie SOB might decide EPA enforcement inspectors to screw with farmers over filling in a ditch was crucial to the national interest, though.
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Re: Government shutdown is likely, Pelosi aide says
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 02:05:39 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 19, 2011, 01:25:30 PM
IMHO, given the Obama ass-backward priorities, border enforcement is iffy as to whether it would be treated as 'Law enforcement' or 'National security' essential, the Leftie SOB might decide EPA enforcement inspectors to screw with farmers over filling in a ditch was crucial to the national interest, though.

Don't forget, the EPA wants to treat spilled milk the same as an oil spill.
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