EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 07:25 PM
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As Hillary Talks About Tolerating Free Expression, Police in Front of Her Brutalize Ray McGovern
As Hillary Talks About Tolerating Free Expression, Police in Front of Her Brutalize Ray McGovern for Turning His Back
From Partnership for Civil Justice, and via War Is A Crime
As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave her speech at George Washington University yesterday condemning governments that arrest protestors and do not allow free expression, 71-year-old Ray McGovern was grabbed from the audience in plain view of her by police and an unidentified official in plain clothes, brutalized and left bleeding in jail. She never paused speaking. When Secretary Clinton began her speech, Mr. McGovern remained standing silently in the audience and turned his back. Mr. McGovern, a veteran Army officer who also worked as a C.I.A. analyst for 27 years, was wearing a Veterans for Peace t-shirt.
Blind-sided by security officers who pounced upon him, Mr. McGovern remarked, as he was hauled out the door, "So this is America?" Mr. McGovern is covered with bruises, lacerations and contusions inflicted in the assault.
Mr. McGovern is being represented by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund (PCJF). "It is the ultimate definition of lip service that Secretary of State Clinton would be trumpeting the U.S. government's supposed concerns for free speech rights and this man would be simultaneously brutalized and arrested for engaging in a peaceful act of dissent at her speech," stated attorney Mara Verheyden-Hilliard of the PCJF.
Mr. McGovern now works for Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in the Adams Morgan neighborhood of Washington, D.C.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x432712These DUmmies think this guy was mistreated, just wait until someone turns their back on Obama.
malaise (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 07:27 PM
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2. WTF - even Rumsfeld didn't try this
Meanwhile they cheer on Egypt and Iran.
It's always the left that cheers on the police states.
formercia (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 07:33 PM
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5. Hillary shows her true colors.
"How dare you disrespect me."
So much for Free Speech. NIMBY
Octafish (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 07:50 PM
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8. This is what America has come to.
The State now says it's OK to spill a man's blood for merely turning his back. And not just any man, but one of the wisest men in the nation and a veteran.
What country is this? It's become one where the State matters more than the citizen. That is not the United States of America.
Hillary, the Secret Service, Department of State, and George Washington University owe Mr. McGovern an immediate apology. I hope he sues their asses into the ground.
If this had happened under President Bush , college students would be having riots.
frylock (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 07:53 PM
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10. ****. this. shit.
i so regret my vote in 2008. never again.
Rageneau (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 08:23 PM
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20. Yeah, Hillary is a jack-booted thug -- and, don't forget, she's a racist, too!
It would be nice if someone who could see this incident from HRC's point-of-view -- knowing what she knew and seeing what she saw -- could give us a little honest perspective on this incident. But no, we are TOLD what she thought and how she felt, and we are therefore supposed to hate Hillary because people who hate Hillary want us to hate Hillary.
I like Ray McGovern, but I like and admire Hillary, too, so I think I'll wait until all the facts are in before I accuse Hillary of collusion in roughing him up.
But you others just go right ahead and rush to judgment with Rush and Burton and Newt and all the other Clinton-haters.
Facts? On DU?
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 08:47 PM
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36. That any cabinet officer in this administration, whoever they are,
could allow this to happen is repugnant.
Obama should call for her to resign. If he doesn't, he is just as guilty.
Agony (620 posts) Wed Feb-16-11 08:45 PM
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35. Well no one here said that but as mentioned up thread compare the alleged scenario
to when Ray confronted Rumsfeld and Rumsfeld _stopped_ security from throwing him out. Apparently in this case he was standing silently... You don't find anything wrong here? or that we just don't really know what happened? Whatever.
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-16-11 08:58 PM
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41. I was just going to mention that. I remember when
McGovern confronted Rumsfeld very well. He actually engaged him in a conversation and as you point out, prevented him from being thrown out.
It's a sad day when Rumsfeld looks better than a democrat. She and her husband have been hanging out with the Bush family too much.
Shame on her. She better apologize for this. And he should sue, he had an absolute right to do what he was doing.
Wrong on the Bush family part. The left is always against free speech for opposing views.
