Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:24 PM
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For those who don't see overpopulation as a problem...
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 02:48 PM by Taverner
And believe that its nothing to worry about:
- As population continues to grow in the US, that will mean more will own cars, use fossil fuel products, etc
- That will mean we will need more land to grow food for those new people
- With China and India industrializing, overpopulation in those countries will lead to more fossil fuel use as well
- Cities will become more and more cramped, leading to more crime, more aggression, etc
- Our highways are already overtaxed, and we really can't make them any wider. We will have to start making double and even triple decker highways like Japan. And we see what those look like after an earthquake.
- Projections show the population leveling out around 8-10 billion, however these estimates leave a lot of things out of the equation (exponential growth in developing countries, exponential growth in the US among the hidden underclass, etc) I find their numbers to be a bit skewed.
- Our oceans are being depleted of resources, and dead zones are popping up everywhere. With demand rising (due to more people, of course) we are on a runaway train, leading to disaster food wise
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x348261loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:29 PM
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2. Very true. But we will run out of potable water before we run out of food.
Population growth has got to stop all around the world, or we are all toast.
Well, if Bush murdered gazillions of people around the world, couldn't it be said that he was helping control the population?
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:52 PM
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16. I've never heard the potable water crash problem explained
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 02:53 PM by Taverner
Is it because rainwater can't be trusted anymore, the poisoning of the water table?
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 03:17 PM
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Supposedly it's due to climate change, but I suspect it has more to
do with big corporations buying up potable water and poisoning of what good water is left.
That is a new one. Corporations stealing all the water and poisoning what's left.
tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:37 PM
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6. Nope, the population should be half of what it is now.
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 03:03 PM by tabatha
Climate change will eventually resolve that problem - a really stupid way to fix it.
Then how is climate change bad if it will correct this problem?
Pisces (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:48 PM
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11. Or a plague will hit that reduces the population. This is a huge fear, hence swine flu pandemonium.
We are overusing antibiotics and creating stronger MRSA bugs, stronger flu strains etc. There are so many things we can't control. We could also all go sterile from overuse of chemicals and hormones
ala "Children of Men".
I think we will be constantly be surprised how the earth cleanses itself of the locusts and parasites that feed off of it.
No wonder DUmmies are so miserable, instead of seeing human beings as something wonderful they view us all as fleas on a giant dog.
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 02:43 PM
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8. This is how Idiocracy is born...
Intelligent people know that we're having too many babies, and stop. The rest continue to procreate... and the average human IQ suffers.
Well shit maybe we should mandate abortions for the next 20 years.
All this pissing and moaning that so many people is killing the earth yet they want free health care so they can live longer. Tell you what DUmmies call your senators and demand we repeal Obamacare, outlaw food stamps and outlaw unemployment insurance. That alone will starve off millions of people and help save mother earth.
Then we can mandate that everyone smokes, require high fat and salt diets, mandate unprotected sex with multiple partners, stop all anti pollution laws so the water is poisoned, nuke the mid east and line up every other citizen against a large wall and shoot them. In no time mother earth can be saved.
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 06:44 PM
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66. The solution to overpopulation is clear
Come up with some sort of pill that virtually guarantees the conception of a male child. Sell it subsidized on the black market in the Third World.
Eventually, the most sexist and backwards societies will breed themselves out of existence. Those societies that value girls/women will survive.
Why do you hate Muslims?
Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 07:09 PM
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71. There should be tax incentives for not breeding, yet it's the other way around. Plus,
free schooling, free daycare, free food, free healthcare for kids.
Wait you want to reduce population yet you want all those freebies for kids? Wouldn't it be better if we starved off the kids?
Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 08:16 PM
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78. So you think kids shouldn't get all that?
Especially disadvantaged ones? I think we all should have that which you listed above, but if not, then at least kids and elderly should get all that.
Ohh maybe the DUmmy above was saying that those should be denied, I'm not sure, but this primitive is saying that these people should be taken care of when it would make more sense to starve them off to save the planet.
Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-04-11 11:43 PM
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80. Well........
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 11:44 PM by Shagbark Hickory
I know it's a republican philosophy to deny the essentials to children but when it comes to the subject of overpopulation, in my view, people have children who can't afford to have children.
I'm not saying children should just be for the wealthy, but you should be able to provide the basics at least, without relying on assistance. And it's common knowledge that there are some benefits that become available to parents of disadvantaged children that people without children would not be eligible for.
I'm not saying there should be any assistance for people that are down on their luck.
What I am saying is there should be far fewer financial rewards for having children.
If we are to find real solutions, we must go head to head with this tough subject.
How about we tax births, and give tax credits for abortions?
