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RadiationTherapy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-03-11 06:39 PM
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Why Americans Can't "Go Egyptian" - We Have No Mubarak.
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In the Grapes of Wrath, Muley Graves laments "who do I shoot?" as he is informed of the layers and layers of bureaucracy that protects the "bankers in a board room in New York somewheres" who are repossessing the homes around the Joad farm. The point being made, of course, is that there is no figurehead to "shoot". There is no face of oppression in America, hence, there is a great deal of difficulty in finding a center for a movement to revolutionize America's economic landscape.

Some people want to "fight capitalism", but we know from the "War on Terror" that one cannot riot against or fight an ideology. The riots in Cairo cannot and will not happen here because there is no "face of the enemy" here.

What do we do?

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Cleita  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-03-11 06:43 PM
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2. We make them irrelevant and consolidate power elsewhere.
 The Brits did this. The Queen has practically no power in government any more. Corporations did it to us. They hold the real power and the three branches of government with the exception of a few mavericks like Bernie Sanders, are controlled by them. So we need to take power back from the corporations. We may have to do this at a state or even local level to bring them back under our control.

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ladjf (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-03-11 07:33 PM
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10. An end run. nt

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TBF  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-03-11 07:14 PM
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7. I believe this is correct. We are at a disadvantage with our left destroyed -
 and by left I mean far-left. The communists had gained inroads with labor and were a force to reckon with when FDR was president (and responded with the New Deal). Obama did not respond accordingly in this depression because there was no serious challenge forcing him to.

Education, building alliances, and most of all re-building labor (and educating those who think they are "owners" but really have little to no wealth/power). 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x339822

In short: they want to build their own industries and institutions to satisfy their demands.

And this is actually what America is about!

America is to give us the freedom to open our own stores, farms, factories and even communes. The civil authorities are charged with protecting those efforts from force and fraud and the military preserves the political system determines who runs those civil authorities.

Yet, the very freedoms that guarantee these DUmbasses could "escape their corporate masters" are being destroyed whenever the DUmbasses demand the government ovrtake ever larger swathes of our economy. It's no coincidence that as Immelt was signing on to Obama's administration GE was being given an EPA waiver for a power plant in CA.

Lurking DUmbasses,

You have the freedom to run a corporation/business/commune by whatever ethical standard you deem fit and many members of this forum wear the uniform to protect your right to do so.

STOP being your own worst enemy!
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If you morons could unstick your fingers off the keyboard, quit watchin' all that porn and stop postin' at DU long enough to form your own non profit manufacturin', I'm sure you might even get somethin' done!

At least until you figure out someone has to be the boss, someone else has to keep up with technology, you figure out the guy that puts 3 nuts on your unicorn shittin' thingamajig is not nearly worth as much as the guy who maintains all the equipment, compete with other for profit Corporations who  undoubtedly will manufacture a superior product, thus takin' away your clientele and so on, and so on, and so on...........

Ah well, we'll be rootin' for ya!

Idiots!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah well, we'll be rootin' for ya!

Idiots!!!!!!!!!!

I double-dog dare them to try it.
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Cleita  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-03-11 06:43 PM
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2. We make them irrelevant and consolidate power elsewhere.
 The Brits did this. The Queen has practically no power in government any more. Corporations did it to us. They hold the real power and the three branches of government with the exception of a few mavericks like Bernie Sanders, are controlled by them. So we need to take power back from the corporations. We may have to do this at a state or even local level to bring them back under our control.

Some states have done that. Michigan, Illinois,and California comes to mind.  Those states have/are using taxes to do as you want. How's that working for them?