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Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« on: January 31, 2011, 01:53:01 PM »


A federal judge in Florida has struck down as unconstitutional key parts of the sweeping health care reform bill championed by President Barack Obama. Officials in Florida and 25 other states are challenging sections of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, including the "individual mandate" requiring most Americans to purchase health insurance in four years or face stiff penalties.

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The mandatory part is unconstitutional and inseverable , therefor the whole law is unconstitutional. No injunction issued, so it will go forward on appeal.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 02:01:56 PM »
This pleases me.  :-)
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 02:02:23 PM »
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 02:03:55 PM »
 :cheersmate: :-) Now the WH spin for today.. will be?
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 02:09:57 PM »
Quote from: cavegal on January 31, 2011, 02:03:55 PM
:cheersmate: :-) Now the WH spin for today.. will be?

Bush's Fault.. or at least Romney's
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 02:15:45 PM »
Quote from: miskie on January 31, 2011, 02:09:57 PM
Bush's Fault.. or at least Romney's

You know, this looks bad for Romney in the 2012 runup.  MassCare is bankrupting that state; he was the chief architect of it.  ObamaCare is quite like MassCare.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 02:17:50 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 31, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
You know, this looks bad for Romney in the 2012 runup.  MassCare is bankrupting that state; he was the chief architect of it.  ObamaCare is quite like MassCare.

Has Masscare ever been challenged in the courts?
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 02:35:37 PM »
So is the DU on life support? :popcorn:
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 02:38:51 PM »
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Has Masscare ever been challenged in the courts?

Don't know.  
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 02:42:03 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 31, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
You know, this looks bad for Romney in the 2012 runup.  MassCare is bankrupting that state; he was the chief architect of it.  ObamaCare is quite like MassCare.

Good. I don't like Romney at all.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 02:49:21 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQUhDHP7UI[/youtube]

That was quick.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 02:55:12 PM »
Great news!  Let's see how the appeal goes. 

I'm not wild about Romney either.  I wonder why he ends up in the high end of the polls for the potential candidate? 

What especially irked me about Obamacare was that nightmarish "flowchart" that doesn't even fit on one page.  You've all seen it.  Imagine dealing with that when you've got a life-and-death situation with a loved one or yourself. 
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 03:21:25 PM »
ACTIVIST JUDGE!!!!!!11111ONEone!!!!!

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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2011, 03:27:12 PM »
Hey DUmbasses


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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 03:31:15 PM »
Quote from: Crazy Horse on January 31, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
Hey DUmbasses


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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 03:55:58 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 31, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
Has Masscare ever been challenged in the courts?

It is right now -- the part where residents are fined for not having health insurance.   What is happening in MA is not Romneycare.  Deval Patrick owns this disaster.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2011, 04:00:44 PM »
Newsmax has this comment from the judge's ruling:

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"It is difficult to imagine that a nation which began, at least in part, as the result of opposition to a British mandate giving the East India Company a monopoly and imposing a nominal tax on all tea sold in America would have set out to create a government with the power to force people to buy tea in the first place. If Congress can penalize a passive individual for failing to engage in commerce, the enumeration of powers in the Constitution would have been in vain for it would be “difficult to perceive any limitation on federal power” [Lopez, supra, 514 U.S. at 564], and we would have a Constitution in name only. Surely this is not what the Founding Fathers could have intended."

YEOW!!!!  That's got to leave a mark!  Obama just got :bitchslap: and :foff: and :asssmack: all in one!
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2011, 04:02:32 PM »
Wow, a judge who interprets law based on the Constitution and doesn't "legislate from the bench".  Who knew?
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2011, 04:26:56 PM »
from front page of Politico44

http://www.politico.com/politico44/

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0111/w_h_accuses_judge_of_overreaching_dfe93f74-7bd1-486a-8a8d-28472ad2fb01.html

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JUDGE WHO? -- The White House says a ruling by a federal judge against the new health care law is an example of judicial "overreaching" and "activism."

"This ruling is well out of the mainstream of judicial opinion," Stephanie Cutter, an assistant to President Obama, wrote on the White House's blog after Judge Roger Vinson in Florida ruled that the entire law is unconstitutional. "Today’s ruling ... is a plain case of judicial overreaching. The judge’s decision contradicts decades of Supreme Court precedent that support the considered judgment of the democratically elected branches of government that the Act’s 'individual responsibility' provision is necessary to prevent billions of dollars of cost-shifting every year by individuals without insurance who cannot pay for the health care they obtain." Cutter accused the judge of putting "all of the new benefits, cost savings and patient protections that were included in the law at risk." She added, "We don’t believe this kind of judicial activism will be upheld and we are confident that the Affordable Care Act will ultimately be declared constitutional by the courts."

The Justice Department said it will appeal the ruling.
 Activism and overreaching. Well WH would know!
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 05:07:26 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 31, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
You know, this looks bad for Romney in the 2012 runup.  MassCare is bankrupting that state; he was the chief architect of it.  ObamaCare is quite like MassCare.

It does -- what Romney needs to do is get in front of a camera and make the case that Romneycare was a mistake- until he does that, there will be little he can do to earn the nom in the end.
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 05:40:27 PM »
Quote from: cavegal on January 31, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
So is the DU on life support? :popcorn:


Aren't they already on life support in Mom's basement? The real question DU needs to ask "How did Rove do this?
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2011, 06:19:34 PM »
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White House Calls Obamacare Ruling Judicial Overreach

On the White House’s blog, spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter writes: “Today’s ruling – issued by Judge Vinson in the Northern District of Florida – is a plain case of judicial overreaching.” She continues: “Those who claim that the “individual responsibility” provision exceeds Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce because it penalizes “inactivity” are simply wrong. Individuals who choose to go without health insurance are actively making an economic decision that impacts all of us.”
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Sore losers. :bird:
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Re: Federal judge says key parts of health care reform unconstitutional
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2011, 06:23:20 PM »
This is a big f'ing deal.
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