Should Legal, Non-Citizen Immigrants Receive Food Stamps?

[Freeper]

The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:00 AM
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Should Legal, Non-Citizen Immigrants Receive Food Stamps?
   
Should Legal, Non-Citizen Immigrants Receive Food Stamps?

Washington State’s decision to end funding for food stamps for legal immigrants has prompted a class action lawsuit claiming the move was unconstitutional.

Effective February 1, the state government will cease all funding for its Food Assistance Program for Legal Immigrants, saving the budget about $7 million.

But “saving money is not adequate justification to discriminate against plaintiff and class members,” said lead plaintiff Monica Navarro Pimentel, as part of the litigation that argues the state has violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment since U.S. citizens are allowed food stamps in Washington.

The budget cut affects more than 10,000 legal immigrants who were receiving assistance under the terminated program.

Food Assistance Program for Legal Immigrants was established in 1997 in response to the federal government’s decision to end food-stamp eligibility for most legal immigrants.

http://www.allgov.com/Where_is_the_Money_Going/ViewNews...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x313060

Naturally any talk of cutting entitlements pisses the DUmp off.

Iggo  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:22 AM
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7. Hungry people should receive food stamps.
   
What the **** is wrong with this country?

I'm getting hungry should I get food stamps then? 

Vickers  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:22 AM
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8. My wife is a non-citizen immigrant...she's about ready to get the hell out of here.
   
She pays income tax, pays in to Social Security, pays property taxes, etc. etc. and she has never felt more unwelcome in her life.

You know what a lot of those who were born here don't feel very welcome in our own country.
If you are from any other country you get the green light to fly your country's flag whenever you want. One of us wants to fly our flag well, that may offend someone.

Mariana  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 09:15 AM
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27. My husband, and my sister's husband, are immigrants, too.
   
They got US citizenship a few years ago, but it is as you say - they have been made to feel uncomforable. They are both white and native English speakers, although they have obvious foreign accents. If THEY are feeling unwelcome, I can't even imagine what it's like for people with darker skin and different accents and/or languages.

You know what my family came here and they had to learn English and abide by the customs here, they didn't sit around whining and crying they went out and found a way to make a living.

bobbolink  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 09:46 AM
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31. Being homeless is another good way to feel VERY unwelcome.
   
I don't blame her at all for wanting to leave... I. Do. Too!!

Of course Bobo chimes in. If it's so bad here Bobo get the hell out only thing stopping you is, you.

pampango  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:30 AM
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11. And the RW smiles. Focus on illegal immigrants long enough and all immigrants end up targeted. n/t
   

No DUmmy like always you don't listen. Conservatives have no problem with those who come here play by the rules and make a life for themselves.

H2O Man  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:51 AM
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19. Absolutely not.   Updated at 11:09 PM
   
We are a christian nation. Jesus said not to share food with "others."

Well hey problem solved, practice the teaching of Jesus and reach in your own pocket and buy them some groceries.

[jukin]

Food stamps should be abolished, especially the cards that let the leeches steal for other items (strip clubs, cruises, booze,..) that make them feel better.

I am all for giving them 20 pound bags of rice and beans along with big wheels of government cheese. Want steak, frozen pizza, and Cheetos? Get a job.

[GOBUCKS]

There should be no way to legally immigrate to America without the resources for self-sufficiency.

[thundley4]

There should be no way to legally immigrate to America without the resources for self-sufficiency.

Most other countries already have that as a requirement, and in no other country is a child born there an automatic citizen.

[Carl]

Most other countries already have that as a requirement, and in no other country is a child born there an automatic citizen.

BINGO...

Before you are accepted for permanent status in Canada, you and your dependents, whether accompanying you or not, must undergo and pass a medical examination.   
You will receive full instructions from the Visa Office when it is time for you and your dependants to undergo the medical examinations. 

  Do not have your medical examinations done until you are told to do so by the Visa Office. After you have receive a notice from the Visa Office,  it will be your responsibility to arrange an appointment with the DMP.

These medical examinations are intended to detect any conditions which may affect the health of the Canadian public, or which may result in excessive demands being placed upon the Canadian health or social care system. Passing the medical examination is required since you are applying under the Skilled Worker’s Migration Program. You are chosen based on your potential economic contribution to  Canada, therefore you should at least be healthy to be able to work and provide for yourself and your family.  http://www.canadajobsandimmigration.com/version4/c21.htm

Those damn right wing Canadians.

[AllosaursRus]

The Straight Story  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:00 AM
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Should Legal, Non-Citizen Immigrants Receive Food Stamps?
  
Should Legal, Non-Citizen Immigrants Receive Food Stamps?

Washington State’s decision to end funding for food stamps for legal immigrants has prompted a class action lawsuit claiming the move was unconstitutional.

Effective February 1, the state government will cease all funding for its Food Assistance Program for Legal Immigrants, saving the budget about $7 million.

But “saving money is not adequate justification to discriminate against plaintiff and class members,” said lead plaintiff Monica Navarro Pimentel, as part of the litigation that argues the state has violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment since U.S. citizens are allowed food stamps in Washington.

The budget cut affects more than 10,000 legal immigrants who were receiving assistance under the terminated program.

Food Assistance Program for Legal Immigrants was established in 1997 in response to the federal government’s decision to end food-stamp eligibility for most legal immigrants.

Anyone else see a slight WTF with this statement?

If I'm not mistaken, if you're a legal immigrant, aren't ya supposed to be on the path to citizenship or here workin'???

Ya think maybe, just maybe, that's why the Fed ended the Food Stamp program for them???? They're not supposed to need them, or they're supposed to become citizens, whereas, you will be illegible!!!!

How ****in' hard is that to figure out DUmb****??????

If you're gonna bitch like this for legal immigrants, I can't wait until the repubs axe the program for illegals!!!

[thundley4]

BINGO...

Those damn right wing Canadians.

Funny thing is, the countries with the most restrictive rules for immigration are the "socialist paradises" that the DUmmies love so much.

[Karin]

Whenever the DUmmies start pinin' away for the good old days of the 1960's, when all the hippies fled to Canada, I wish they could see what Thundley posted above. 

Immigration is so complicated.  When my first husband emigrated here, we were college students and therefore dirt poor.  Upon his application for citizenship, the INS made my mom sign an affidavit, saying she would support us if we ended up in the gutter or welfare line.  She was a little miffed at having to disclose her full finances.  This was in '87.  What happened? 

[AllosaursRus]

Whenever the DUmmies start pinin' away for the good old days of the 1960's, when all the hippies fled to Canada, I wish they could see what Thundley posted above. 

Immigration is so complicated.  When my first husband emigrated here, we were college students and therefore dirt poor.  Upon his application for citizenship, the INS made my mom sign an affidavit, saying she would support us if we ended up in the gutter or welfare line.  She was a little miffed at having to disclose her full finances.  This was in '87.  What happened? 

DemonCraps and elitist repubs who would rather have their name in the paper and their face plastered all over the MSM than listen to the people!

[Ballygrl]

There should be no way to legally immigrate to America without the resources for self-sufficiency.

I thought 1 of the rules for coming here legally was to not be able to collect any type of Government assistance for 7 years, you had to prove you or a family member would take care of you if needed?

[dutch508]

There should be no way to legally immigrate to America without the resources for self-sufficiency.

Unless you can provide for your family there should not be allowed to immigrate. Job skills first, then a green card.

[miskie]

My opinion on legal immigration is that the requirements should match the country one is emigrating from.

As for illegal immigration - the penalties should be the same as the country you left from - and if the law there is to seize all of your possessions and dump you naked and hungry back home, then so be it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

So the State took it on because the Feds cut these people off, and it wasn't a 14th Amendment violation when the Feds did that, but it is when the State followed suit?  Yeah, good luck with that one in Federal court.

Now, you may have a chance in State court, they do all sorts of politically-based bullshit and pretend it's based on the State or Federal Constitution on a pretty regular basis.  They aren't really fooling anyone, of course, but the attorneys have to take it all seriously so they don't get disciplined for criticizing the silly and biased mental contortions of their own State Supreme Court.   

[seahorse513]

When we emmigrated to the US, my father came 6 months before, to get a job(1968)( i am not sure if he might have had a job, the us company was sponsoring him) , get a place to live for us, and we came later. I am sure my grandparents helped my parents financially at the beginning to get started. Then they(parents) applied for citzenship and we were naturalized in 76.

[miskie]

When we emmigrated to the US, my father came 6 months before, to get a job(1968)( i am not sure if he might have had a job, the us company was sponsoring him) , get a place to live for us, and we came later. I am sure my grandparents helped my parents financially at the beginning to get started. Then they(parents) applied for citzenship and we were naturalized in 76.

That is the right way to do it - and the way many still do each year.
My grandparents on my mother's side did it that way in the early 1900s - as for relatives on my dad's side, they were here before there was an America.

[seahorse513]

at the time , my parents felt it was the right thing to do. It was the land of opportunity and still is. But as someone said in another thread, you have to play by the rules.  that includes being financially able to support and anyone else(family), get a job, a residence for a certain amount of time.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Iggo  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Jan-31-11 08:22 AM
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7. Hungry people should receive food stamps.
   
What the **** is wrong with this country?

Every time you asshats talk about fleeing America you have to set aside your plans because the nations you want to emigrate to (France, Canada etc) won't accept you unless you demonstrate you have needed skills and enough cash flow to stay off social services.

[jukin]

Every time you asshats talk about fleeing America you have to set aside your plans because the nations you want to emigrate to (France, Canada etc) won't accept you unless you demonstrate you have needed skills and enough cash flow to stay off social services.

UNLESS...you are a third world refugee. Then you hit the lottery on the west's welfare systems. No questions asked, like if you were a murderous thug.  Nope, you just get in because the people you killed might take revenge on you if forced to go back to said third world shitholes. Deserving, legal, and playing by the rules people are sent to the back for these super skilled third worlders to cut in front.

[seahorse513]

A lot of peoplen don't appreciate what we have in this country. A tad bit off topic, but one of the reasons why I respect the military, is that many of them go out in the world, and really see what alot of these countries are like first hand. My sister lived in a small village in Spain (Camarma) 40 miles north?? of Madrid, when her husband was in the Airforce. Alot of women still live out their traditional roles in these small villages and in their respective countries. We really shouldn't downgrade our country until we have walked a mile in another person's shoes that  lives in a country of civil unrest, strict laws or another type of government.

These liberal asshats would be running back here so fast it would make our head spin!!

[DumbAss Tanker]

...that includes being financially able to support and anyone else(family), get a job, a residence for a certain amount of time.

Which are pretty much the rules all of the other nations impose on would-be immigrants...and that also explains why, despite their oft-expressed desires to emigrate to more Socialist lands, the DUmmies are pretty much stuck here.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Which are pretty much the rules all of the other nations impose on would-be immigrants...and that also explains why, despite their oft-expressed desires to emigrate to more Socialist lands, the DUmmies are pretty much stuck here.

You'd save a lot of bandwidth and effort if you'd just type "+1" to my posts.

[DumbAss Tanker]

You'd save a lot of bandwidth and effort if you'd just type "+1" to my posts.

That wouldn't be any fun, and Ptarmy would think I had sided with "The evil Sodomites."

[Airwolf]

No .You don't deserve one dime of support from the Government if you came here illegally.

[DumbAss Tanker]

No .You don't deserve one dime of support from the Government if you came here illegally.

Most of us can get behind that, but it isn't what the thread is about; these food stamps were going to people who are here legally, but aren't citizens. 

[Airwolf]

Most of us can get behind that, but it isn't what the thread is about; these food stamps were going to people who are here legally, but aren't citizens. 

Sorry. I misread it.