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Offline chitownchica

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Primitive points out hypocrisy of fellow DUmmies
« on: January 30, 2011, 05:23:23 AM »
Wonder how long the OP will be part of DUmmieland with this post?  No responses yet, but I'm waiting for the usual chuckleheads to show up.


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On Ayn Rand and Her Social Security
   
I'm shocked that you are just now jumping on this tinkertoy bandwagon. This was discussed on Fark over a week ago. Perhaps you need to re-organize priorities; it is doubleplusungood that it took you this long to join the bleating chorus.

On Fark, the key word bandied about was "subsidies" with the various Fark Liberals(tm) maintaining that SS and Medicare were "subsidies."

As far as the definition of the word goes, indeed. But *wait* - there's MORE!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/subsidy

sub·si·dy
   /ˈsʌbsɪdi/ Show Spelled
1. a direct pecuniary aid furnished by a government to a private industrial undertaking, a charity organization, or the like.
2. a sum paid, often in accordance with a treaty, by one government to another to secure some service in return.
3. a grant or contribution of money.
4. money formerly granted by the English Parliament to the crown for special needs.

These definitions, good in as far as they go, fail to explicitly distinguish between monetary extorted from 3rd parties and given to someone other than those 3rd parties, and money *returned* (in part) to the original forced contributors of those funds. Last time I looked at my paycheck, there were involuntary deductions for both SS and Medicare.

Historically, several companies that have endeavored to opt out of these deductions and pay employees in cash have been paid visits by IRS enforcers, and various people have done jail time for daring to give their employees a break.

Now *there* is a subsidy: you get 3 squares a day, free sex with Bubba, and a free bed to fetally curl up in after the sex, courtesy of the US taxpayer.

You *could* maintain that she didn't have to participate in the System, that she could have just left the country. But then you would sound just like those horrid "love it or leave it" Neanderthal conservatives from the 60s that you appear to disdain as hopelessly anti-intellectual. Not a very consistent position, there, bucko.

OTOH, there is a counter-argument that when The State has eliminated by fiat all alternatives, then individuals have no choice but to participate. What would you expect someone to do if government took over all food production and the supermarket industry? Or the shoe industry? Not eat or wear shoes? Rugged individualism, indeed.

Always good to know that you folks are churning out the agitprop. But you really do need to stay current.

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Re: Primitive points out hypocrisy of fellow DUmmies
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2011, 06:00:06 AM »
I wonder what he wants on his tombstone?
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Re: Primitive points out hypocrisy of fellow DUmmies
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2011, 06:25:11 AM »
Link?

I'd like to know if the campfire's still there.
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Re: Primitive points out hypocrisy of fellow DUmmies
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2011, 01:31:36 PM »
OMG!!!! Logic from the DUmp! Say it ain't so! Is there a lunar eclipse I'm not aware of???

Just sayin........


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Re: Primitive points out hypocrisy of fellow DUmmies
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2011, 03:33:51 PM »
Sorry for the missing link Frank.  Thank Thundley4 :)