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One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« on: January 27, 2011, 08:06:22 PM »
When I saw the thread title I started to worry about Willy Pitt, turns out it wasn't him.

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One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
   
Very interesting story. The victim is from a prominent local family. He was found unconscious outside a local bar and died 10 days later.

All it took to kill Brian Euston was a single punch. That's the assertion that Jackson County Prosecutor Jim Kanatzar made Thursday morning when he announced that Stanford C. Griswold had been charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter in Euston's October death.

Euston, 24, was discovered at Westport Road and Mill Street around bar closing time on October 10. He suffered a severe head injury, but initially the cause of death was a mystery, with no witnesses coming forward. He died at Truman Medical Center two days later.

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Two witnesses told police that they were standing outside of America's Pub, when Euston -- whose blood alcohol level was .387, more than four times the legal limit to drive -- approached. Euston began bothering people outside of the bar and "getting in their faces" one witness said. The witnesses said they urged Euston to leave, but he refused. Griswold became annoyed and allegedly then threatened to knock Euston out. When Euston wouldn't leave Griswold and his girlfriend alone, one witness said, Griswold struck Euston once, and quickly walked away into the mass-bar exodus with his girlfriend. When Westport Public Safety officers arrived on the scene, Euston was bleeding from his mouth, and he was taken to the hospital where he was diagnosed with severe head injuries. He died October 12.

On Thursday, Kanatzar, with Euston's parents by his side, said the charge was manslaughter rather than murder because there was no evidence that Griswold intended to kill Euston. If convicted, Griswold faces one to seven years in prison.

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1. .387?! Holy shit!
   
Edited on Thu Jan-27-11 08:14 PM by NuclearDem
I don't think I could consciously reach that...

A .387 blood alcohol level is known as, Saturday night, by Will.

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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 08:11:19 PM »
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1. .387?! Holy shit!

Holy shit!! I hit that level every morning by 8 AM via the sippy-cup mommy gives me every morning...

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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 08:15:00 PM »
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He was found unconscious outside a local bar and died 10 days later.

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All it took to kill Brian Euston was a single punch. That's the assertion that Jackson County Prosecutor Jim Kanatzar made Thursday morning when he announced that Stanford C. Griswold had been charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter in Euston's October death.

Euston, 24, was discovered at Westport Road and Mill Street around bar closing time on October 10. He suffered a severe head injury, but initially the cause of death was a mystery, with no witnesses coming forward. He died at Truman Medical Center two days later.

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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 08:26:12 PM »
Well .... you know how 2 and 10 sound so much alike when you're reading really fast ....

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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 08:49:45 PM »
I've been at a .27 before. Stops being fun real quick at about .2, and I'm not bragging about my past stupid crap either.

Anything over a .3 should already be causing some kind of brain trauma, I would think. If the idiot was stupid enough/inebriated enough to screw around with people outside a bar, I'm quite sure at that point, it could cause death.

Guy shouldn't do stupid crap like that. Too bad for him...
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 10:09:33 PM »
Quote from: Revolution on January 27, 2011, 08:49:45 PM
I've been at a .27 before. Stops being fun real quick at about .2, and I'm not bragging about my past stupid crap either.

Anything over a .3 should already be causing some kind of brain trauma, I would think. If the idiot was stupid enough/inebriated enough to screw around with people outside a bar, I'm quite sure at that point, it could cause death.

Guy shouldn't do stupid crap like that. Too bad for him...
We had a female on the ship that had a an interesting odor coming from her coffee cup. Turned out it was vodka with a splash of coffee. Well the MA's took her in and gave her a breathalyser. She blew a .28! The strange thing was she was talking perfectly normal walking fine and the whole 9 yards. Seemed completely sober. I knew there were functioning alcoholics but I have never seen anyone that drunk that was upright. But what really got me is that this girl was 5'2 and 100 pounds soaking wet.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 10:15:15 PM »
I'm just curious as to why none of the bar employees are mentioned, involved, or charged, particularly if dude was at a .39.  Even long-term alcoholics can "function" at 0.4 (trust me, I know NM cops who will verify that someone can pass a field sobriety test at that level) but even then there are still indications that the person is drunk.  And if this guy was showing signs of intoxication and wasn't cut off, the other guy is going to walk.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 10:17:04 PM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on January 27, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
We had a female on the ship that had a an interesting odor coming from her coffee cup. Turned out it was vodka with a splash of coffee. Well the MA's took her in and gave her a breathalyser. She blew a .28! The strange thing was she was talking perfectly normal walking fine and the whole 9 yards. Seemed completely sober. I knew there were functioning alcoholics but I have never seen anyone that drunk that was upright. But what really got me is that this girl was 5'2 and 100 pounds soaking wet.

Probably, the breathalyser was not calibrated properly.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 10:19:20 PM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on January 27, 2011, 10:09:33 PM
We had a female on the ship that had a an interesting odor coming from her coffee cup. Turned out it was vodka with a splash of coffee. Well the MA's took her in and gave her a breathalyser. She blew a .28! The strange thing was she was talking perfectly normal walking fine and the whole 9 yards. Seemed completely sober. I knew there were functioning alcoholics but I have never seen anyone that drunk that was upright. But what really got me is that this girl was 5'2 and 100 pounds soaking wet.

Worst I ever saw/heard of was on Rimpac just after I got to my first boat.  We sponsored an Aussie boat, and those bastards could DRINK.  They even got underway with quarter kegs in their torpedo room.  Anyway, we had a party, and one of the Aussie guys was found later passed out in a CONEX box not far from the party.  Took him to Tripler, drew blood, and it was a 0.78.

That is NOT a typo.  Zero-point-****ing-seven-eight.  According to the docs there, it was one of the highest they had ever seen that had survived.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2011, 10:20:48 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on January 27, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
Probably, the breathalyser was not calibrated properly.

Actually, it probably was.  They are used at my work for FFD (fitness for duty.)  They're pretty much foolproof.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2011, 10:21:33 PM »
Damn.  I thought this thread was about Xultar. 
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2011, 10:23:12 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 27, 2011, 10:19:20 PM
Worst I ever saw/heard of was on Rimpac just after I got to my first boat.  We sponsored an Aussie boat, and those bastards could DRINK.  They even got underway with quarter kegs in their torpedo room.  Anyway, we had a party, and one of the Aussie guys was found later passed out in a CONEX box not far from the party.  Took him to Tripler, drew blood, and it was a 0.78.

That is NOT a typo.  Zero-point-****ing-seven-eight.  According to the docs there, it was one of the highest they had ever seen that had survived.

The highest BAC is 1.23.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2011, 10:24:48 PM »
It's dangerous to get blind drunk and start accosting strangers outside a bar. Darwinism hard at work for your benefit.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2011, 10:39:01 PM »
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It's dangerous to get blind drunk and start accosting strangers outside a bar. Darwinism hard at work for your benefit.

And it seems to me, it offers a damned near idiot-proof "self defense" defense.  Unless this guy goes with the clock watching public defender the judge offers him, he should walk on this, I think.
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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 01:50:33 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 27, 2011, 10:19:20 PM
Worst I ever saw/heard of was on Rimpac just after I got to my first boat.  We sponsored an Aussie boat, and those bastards could DRINK.  They even got underway with quarter kegs in their torpedo room.  Anyway, we had a party, and one of the Aussie guys was found later passed out in a CONEX box not far from the party.  Took him to Tripler, drew blood, and it was a 0.78.

That is NOT a typo.  Zero-point-****ing-seven-eight.  According to the docs there, it was one of the highest they had ever seen that had survived.

Sounds about right.

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Re: One punch kills an obnoxious drunk.
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 07:42:02 AM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on January 27, 2011, 10:17:04 PM
Probably, the breathalyser was not calibrated properly.
I can assure you it was. And so was the second one.
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