Nationalism Bad. Free Stuff good. and Barry sucks.

[dutch508]

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 04:00 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x281812Jingoistic

nationalism does nothing for me. I don't want to "compete" with the world.
 I don't give a damn about being "#1", all I want is to live in a country where the inalienable rights of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a reality for all citizens.

We have been exceedingly blessed to live on this particular land mass -- a geographical location of unparalled bounty, spanning climate zones from semi-tropical to northern boreal.

We can grow an enormous amount of food on this land -- more than enough to never be subject to famine within our borders. We are blessed with just about every natural resource needed for the manufacture of all the tools and products conducive to providing a comfortable life for all our citizens.

We could all have enough, enough to live much better than bare survival, enough to raise healthy children, enough to pursue our own individual paths toward happiness, if only those for whom there will never be enough weren't given free rein to control and dominate the rest of us.

The pathologically greedy among us are given every concession, every benefit in our current system. WE, the ordinary citizens, don't need to compete with China and India, we could do fine if our government simply focused on making use of all the bounty of our land to take care of our own people.

Competition is a destructive paradigm. I would far prefer economic sovereignty and self-sufficiency, and cooperation and community-building within our borders.

It's a vision that was completely absent from last night's SOTU. And we are egregiously impoverished by that absence.

sw
 

So...WinTheFuture!

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Thank you. I felt very sad last night. Nothing about poverty, nothing about how many U.S. citizens
 are suffering from job losses and foreclosures. It was all about dominance -- dominance for whom?

The paradigm of dominance got us into this mess, it surely won't get us out.

sw

 

I am waiting for Bobo to pop up.

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Well, in the glorious New World Order of our Plutocrat Overlords, THEY decide who is worthy
 of concern.

Lots of people are unworthy in this New World.

 

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #30
57. There's a significant irony in all this. If we were actually setting an EXAMPLE of taking care
 of our own, other nations wouldn't feel so free to overtly subjugate their own people. All our high-minded talk about "freedom" and "democracy" and "rule of law" would actually mean something.

...WTF!

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #42
46. That's exactly what bothered me. The SOTU was a blueprint of the dark vision.
 I uncategorically reject that vision. It does not support elementary human life, it supports only abstract notions of power.

W. T. F.!

Joanne98  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-27-11 03:55 AM
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77. Globalization is a SCAM!

WTF. I thought barry wanted globalization?

oh...and Bobo hasn't shown up yet.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Competition is a destructive paradigm. I would far prefer economic sovereignty and self-sufficiency, and cooperation and community-building within our borders.

No you don't.

You already have the means and freedom to accomplish what you claim but what you really want is someone to do it for you because as soon as someone suggests you contribute your labors you'll howl and wail.

Go ahead, tell those collecting welfare they must perform 40 hours government service every week.

I dare you.

[AllosaursRus]

scarletwoman  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jan-26-11 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Well, in the glorious New World Order of our Plutocrat Overlords, THEY decide who is worthy
 of concern.

Lots of people are unworthy in this New World.

Hmmmmm, seems to me this is a damn good description of the countries y'all hold up as socialist paradises, like the old Soviet Union, Cuba, and China, ain't it?

[JohnnyReb]

DUmmie said, "I don't give a damn about being "#1", all I want is to live in a country where the inalienable rights of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a reality for all citizens."

Well, it's kinda hard to pursue happiness when my liberty is limited by your hand in my pocket for my entire life.

[Duke Nukum]

I have to say, Barry gave me a brain spin in that portion of the SOTU show.  I remember he said victory wasn't a goal in Afghanistan, for reason I could never quite follow.  And then he comes out and tells us we should beat the rest of the world.

I didn't think this would go down well with the prims.

[DumbAss Tanker]

We can grow an enormous amount of food on this land -- more than enough to never be subject to famine within our borders. We are blessed with just about every natural resource needed for the manufacture of all the tools and products conducive to providing a comfortable life for all our citizens.

For someone who hates nationalism, she sure sounds a Hell of a lot like she wants her country and family to live really well, and give the high hard one to the starving hordes in the rest of the world.