McConnell Moves to Bring Health Care Repeal to Senate

[Boudicca]

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday night, just hours before the president's

I took the headline directly as it was written on Fox News, but I think it's a misleading headline since it makes it sound like Senator McConnell is trying to repeal health care, period.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday night, just hours before the president's State of the Union address, began the legislative process of forcing the House-passed health care repeal bill to the Senate floor for a vote.

Using a particular Senate rule typically reserved for the leaders, McConnell bypassed committee action and put the bill directly before the members, even without the support of the Majority Leader who, for the most part, controls the legislative calendar. It is a procedure that takes a couple of days to ripen before any vote can occur, though even then it could be a fight.

Link:

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/01/25/mcconnell-starts-process-bringing-health-care-repeal-senate-floor

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Yep, he had to make that move, otherwise it's be bottled in committee and that would be the end of it.

Even if the majority filibusters--which would be weird as hell--that will be a proxy vote on repeal and they Dem pissants will STILL be on record.

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And Schumer's threat is no threat at all. So what if Dems force votes on individual parts? The Republicans can easily go along with the pre-existing conditions stuff and 26-year-old-still-on-the-plan stuff and vote against the monstrous bureaucracy and, of course, the mandate. And that still leaves those up for re-election in 2012 with some seriously tough choices.

[Boudicca]

And Schumer's threat is no threat at all. So what if Dems force votes on individual parts? The Republicans can easily go along with the pre-existing conditions stuff and 26-year-old-still-on-the-plan stuff and vote against the monstrous bureaucracy and, of course, the mandate. And that still leaves those up for re-election in 2012 with some seriously tough choices.

I still think it's rather outrageous that this "plan" covers "kids" up to age 26, with many exceptions, such as military dependents.  Most young adults enjoy blessed good health and can afford a simple, yet comprehensive, catastrophic healthcare policy, especially if they give up the "necessities" of life like bells and whistles electronic gadgets.  For those who do suffer from ill health, well, they should be afforded the opportunity to purchase a reasonably priced health care policy same as older adults with illnesses.  There is no doubt our healthcare system needs to be reformed, but NOT run by the same gang overseeing the postal system, which is now talking of closing another 2000 post offices.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/24/news/economy/postal_service_close/index.htm?hpt=T2

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I still think it's rather outrageous that this "plan" covers "kids" up to age 26, with many exceptions, such as military dependents.  Most young adults enjoy blessed good health and can afford a simple, yet comprehensive, catastrophic healthcare policy, especially if they give up the "necessities" of life like bells and whistles electronic gadgets.  For those who do suffer from ill health, well, they should be afforded the opportunity to purchase a reasonably priced health care policy same as older adults with illnesses.  There is no doubt our healthcare system needs to be reformed, but NOT run by the same gang overseeing the postal system, which is now talking of closing another 2000 post offices.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/24/news/economy/postal_service_close/index.htm?hpt=T2

Oh, I agree with you on that Boud, but it doesn't require a massive new bureacracy to leave a few insurance regs in place, and Republcians will probably have to go along with this one if the Dems pull this garbage. Although objectionable, it's one of the least objectionable parts of this evil law.


Every single paragraph dealing with the new healthcare commissioner and his army of paper-pushing lackeys can be easily and popularly voted into oblivion by Republicans. And, if Schumer and his fellow toads pull this, he and said toads will have to vote on all these hated provisions as well. They'll have to vote on the mandate as the mandate! For all to see (well, at least on Fox news).


I hope they do this. It will backfire BIG TIME.

[olde north church]

1.  Schumer is an asshole, with a capital ASSHOLE.

2.  I hope this works.

3.  I'm doing a crossword puzzle, clue is "Senior Senator from New York", 7 letters, a s s * * l e?  Little help?

[Boudicca]

1.  Schumer is an asshole, with a capital ASSHOLE.

2.  I hope this works.

3.  I'm doing a crossword puzzle, clue is "Senior Senator from New York", 7 letters, a s s * * l e?  Little help?

Now, now, you know we conservatives MUST practice civility while the left wing throws every nasty word in the book at us.

But, of course the answer to your puzzle is asshole.   The question though, should be, Minority Party in the House of Representatives.  Then it would have to be plural.  I pay attention to detail, which is why, Godot, I've never been able to slog through that healthcare bill atrocity.  All I know is, given the "efficacy" of the drafters, it's a house of cards waiting for a breath of fresh air (common sense) to blow it over.
Thank God our Founding Fathers were of a different, vastly superior, character, than the idiots holding office from the Dem Party these days.

[5412]

And Schumer's threat is no threat at all. So what if Dems force votes on individual parts? The Republicans can easily go along with the pre-existing conditions stuff and 26-year-old-still-on-the-plan stuff and vote against the monstrous bureaucracy and, of course, the mandate. And that still leaves those up for re-election in 2012 with some seriously tough choices.

Hi,

I find the idea of tough choices for libs up for re-election a bit surprising based on the idiot Nelson we have here in Florida.  He is so far out on a limb his choice is to admit he made a mistake or continue with the charade and his ego is such that it would be an easy choice.  You might get some fence sitters to change their votes, but much like Pelosi gave some house members the OK to vote against it, that was only done when the outcome was no longer in doubt.  I cannot imagine the pressure on the liberal senators would be any less than it was in the past on this issue.

The good thing is it makes it easier to kick their ass out of office; particularly when they lie about repeal.  Every Rasmussen poll I have seen the number is 58% want the bill repealed and the oppose and not sure make up the rest.  Let them continue to try to govern against the will of the people, that is how they got so many fired in the house.

regards,
5412

[Boudicca]

5412 you are beginning to remind me of Yoda, although much handsomer, I'm sure!

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Hi,

I find the idea of tough choices for libs up for re-election a bit surprising based on the idiot Nelson we have here in Florida.  He is so far out on a limb his choice is to admit he made a mistake or continue with the charade and his ego is such that it would be an easy choice.  You might get some fence sitters to change their votes, but much like Pelosi gave some house members the OK to vote against it, that was only done when the outcome was no longer in doubt.  I cannot imagine the pressure on the liberal senators would be any less than it was in the past on this issue.

The good thing is it makes it easier to kick their ass out of office; particularly when they lie about repeal.  Every Rasmussen poll I have seen the number is 58% want the bill repealed and the oppose and not sure make up the rest.  Let them continue to try to govern against the will of the people, that is how they got so many fired in the house.

regards,
5412

Stipulated (that most are not likely to change); it's the bold part that's key. Let Obamacare keep cutting them to shreds.

ALTHOUGH, it's not impossible that some more than we imagine will get advice to change and let Obama veto. Some of them may still want their political careers. The difference this time around is they know their left flanks will forgive them, since any repeal that might pass the Senate will be vetoed. That is, the law won't actually be changed. I doubt the drones would hold them accountable for merely making Obama veto.


If they filibuster against cloture, we'll have the highly unusual scenario of the majority filibustering. The ONLY conceivable reason for the majority to filibuster is to prevent their vote on the substantive matter before them from going on record. After all, if they have enough votes to defeat cloture, then they have enouh votes to defeat the underlying substantive issue. That will be an obvious proxy vote for a vote on repeal itself, so they'd be damn fools to do it, but I never underestimate the potential for Dems to be a bunch of damn fools, especially when they imagine they're being clever when in truth they're painfully transparent.