What is missing from this thread?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

kpete  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jan-25-11 07:33 PM
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Black Mother Jailed For Sending Kids to White School District 
 Edited on Tue Jan-25-11 07:39 PM by kpete
Black Mother Jailed For Sending Kids to White School District

24 Jan 2011

by James Quin

An Ohio mother of two was sentenced to 10 days in jail and placed on three years probation after sending her kids to a school district in which they did not live. Kelly Williams-Bolar was sentenced by Judge Patricia Cosgrove on Tuesday and will begin serving her sentence immediately.

The jury deliberated for seven hours and the courtroom was packed as the sentence was handed down. She was convicted on two counts of tampering with court records after registering her two girls as living with Williams Bolar’s father when they actually lived with her. The family lived in the housing projects in Akron, Ohio, and the father’s address was in nearby Copley Township.

Additionally, Williams-Bolar’s father, Edward L. Williams, was charged with a fourth-degree felony of grand theft, in which he and his daughter are charged with defrauding the school system for two years of educational services for their girls. The court determined that sending their children to the wrong school was worth $30,500 in tuition.

.......it’s interesting how courts find it convenient to make someone into an example when they happen to be poor and black. I’d love to see how they prosecute wealthy white women who commit the same offense. Oh, I forgot: Most wealthy white women don’t have to send their kids to the schools located near the projects.

more:
http://antikryptos.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/black-mothe... /
http://drboycespeaks.blogspot.com/2011/01/mother-jailed...
http://www.ohio.com/hottopic/114372139.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x269707

The thread is rather large.

In it is much hand-wringing about how the mother would never have suffered this fate if she were white/rich and to a certain extent I'm inclined to agree.

Several DUmabsses note that her crime, which they--and I--claim is not really a crime, centers on depriving the school district wherein the children do reside of roughly $7,500 per year per child. Again, I am inclined to agree.

So what is missing?

Isn't it curious that none of the usual suspects who bang the gong against vouchers or firing bad teachers has reared their ugly--and I do mean ugly--heads.

The fact is the black kids were relegated to a shit school. They have been segregated and given no standards. The adults above them get no more money than the white school but they do Dog only knows what with it. Graft, corruption and incompetence seem to abound. That mother had every right to take whatever matters were required to ensure the well-being of her children. She is entitled to every action she took.

But those who demand their power do so at the expense of that family's misery. They simply will not tolerate runaway slaves.

[true_blood]

I don't know about the jail time, but I would all be for the parent(s) to pay back the $30,500 for the kids tuition.

[CC27]

Bobo is what's missing from this thread. That money could have gone for a new Buick with leather. Did Pam or number one teacher  DUmmie show up?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I don't know about the jail time, but I would all be for the parent(s) to pay back the $30,500 for the kids tuition.

Pay it back to whom?

The public school system?

The money was going to the public school system it just went to a different school.

I would hasten to add, any law that traps children in a failing school--particularly on the basis of race--is odious and ought to be ignored. I know the school's student body reflects its immediate neighborhood but it would be naive to claim laws, social programs etc weren't crafted to create impose a soft segregation in the name of the "black community".

To my mind, this woman ought to be the next Rosa Parks if she could get proper reporting on her plight; although her oppressors would more likely be teacher's unions, guilty white liberals and persons of similar melanin content who understand where their checks come from every month.

[mamacags]

I would be willing to bet the "Tuition" costs at the innercity school is much more than the "white" school.  Either way this story pisses me off.  Instead of embracing the thug innercity crime and poverty lifestyle she wants something better for her kids.  It is a load of crap to kick her in the head for having a sense of pride and wanting her kids to grow up educated.

[true_blood]

Pay it back to whom?
The public school system?

Sure, that and the court costs. Did the kids take a school bus to school? Who paid for the pick up and drop off the kids? (The gas and the school bus driver) Did they buy lunches at the school? (I'm not being facious, just need more details. If money was spent to educate her kids, someone paid for it. The mother didn't. The parents of the other children in that school and community did I assume.)
She did lie about their residency.

[AllosaursRus]

The jury deliberated for seven hours and the courtroom was packed as the sentence was handed down. She was convicted on two counts of tampering with court records after registering her two girls as living with Williams Bolar’s father when they actually lived with her. The family lived in the housing projects in Akron, Ohio, and the father’s address was in nearby Copley Township.

The father in this bull shit must be a real piece of work! If I had a kid goin' to a school in the projects, I'd swear on a stack of Bibles they lived with me at least half the time! Both parents must be a product of the same school they tried keepin' their kids out of! It's not that hard to cover your tracks in this situation.

I'm sure the DUmmies are all up in arms about Rahm Emanuelle having to put up with much the same rules though, wanna bet?

I don't know about the jail time, but I would all be for the parent(s) to pay back the $30,500 for the kids tuition.

BS for that one True! What exactly was the school out, if they weren't in their school what do the parents owe? The other school got the money? Is that your reasoning? Well, Damn it, the other school educated them! The one in the projects did zilch! What exactly are they owed?????????

Sure, that and the court costs. Did the kids take a school bus to school? Who paid for the pick up and drop off the kids? (The gas and the school bus driver) Did they buy lunches at the school? (I'm not being facious, just need more details. If money was spent to educate her kids, someone paid for it. The mother didn't. The parents of the other children in that school and community did I assume.)
She did lie about their residency.

They were in the PROJECTS! Anyone you know pay property taxes in the PROJECTS????? If the father owns property in his neighborhood, he's payin' for other kids to go to school! Again I ask, what was the original school out? Sure as hell don't sound like momma was payin property tax! We were payin' it! And if they weren't there, we weren't payin'!!!!!!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

She did lie about their residency.

And my father lied about his age to join the navy during the Korean War.

She should have had a voucher to send her kids to whatever school she felt was best.

Yet the unions demand the money for themselves and the liberals create "black communities" to maintain their captive constituencies.

[true_blood]

And my father lied about his age to join the navy during the Korean War.
She should have had a voucher to send her kids to whatever school she felt was best.
Yet the unions demand the money for themselves and the liberals create "black communities" to maintain their captive constituencies.

I have no problem at all with her wanting a better education and life for her child. What parent wouldn't? But, she got caught.

[AllosaursRus]

I have no problem at all with her wanting a better education and life for her child. What parent wouldn't? But, she got caught.

How compassionate of you! What would you do for your children in this circumstance? What risk would you take?

[true_blood]

How compassionate of you! What would you do for your children in this circumstance? What risk would you take?

Like I said Rus, what parent wouldn't want the best for their child. I would as well. I'm not slamming the woman, she got caught.

[Evil_Conservative]

I think parent's should be able to chose which school district they want their children to attend without being penalized/jailed. 

The court took this woman away from her children for 10 days because she wanted to give them a better education. 

Let me know how taking a mother away from her children for a week and a half is a GOOD thing? 

[AllosaursRus]

Like I said Rus, what parent wouldn't want the best for their child. I would as well. I'm not slamming the woman, she got caught.

You also said she should pay a school district for her kids not gettin' an education in that school! Sorry, if the kids weren't there, she don't owe them a Damn dime! This is nothin' more than a district wantin sumpin' for nuttin'!

They are gettin' subsidized/student! What have they lost? You have to lose somethin' before you can claim a loss!

[true_blood]

You also said she should pay a school district for her kids not gettin' an education in that school! Sorry, if the kids weren't there, she don't owe them a Damn dime! This is nothin' more than a district wantin sumpin' for nuttin'!
They are gettin' subsidized/student! What have they lost? You have to lose somethin' before you can claim a loss!

My bad! I just re-read that sentence in the OP Rus. I don't think she should pay. I thought that they ordered her to pay the school that the kids went to, not the school that they were supposed to go to. I misread it.
I apologize guys. My bad. She should not pay. That's not right at all. BS away. lol

[MrsSmith]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x269707

The thread is rather large.

In it is much hand-wringing about how the mother would never have suffered this fate if she were white/rich and to a certain extent I'm inclined to agree.

Several DUmabsses note that her crime, which they--and I--claim is not really a crime, centers on depriving the school district wherein the children do reside of roughly $7,500 per year per child. Again, I am inclined to agree.

So what is missing?

Isn't it curious that none of the usual suspects who bang the gong against vouchers or firing bad teachers has reared their ugly--and I do mean ugly--heads.

The fact is the black kids were relegated to a shit school. They have been segregated and given no standards. The adults above them get no more money than the white school but they do Dog only knows what with it. Graft, corruption and incompetence seem to abound. That mother had every right to take whatever matters were required to ensure the well-being of her children. She is entitled to every action she took.

But those who demand their power do so at the expense of that family's misery. They simply will not tolerate runaway slaves.

Yep.  If she'd figured out some way to send them to a Christian school, their opinions would be exactly opposite. 

Personally, I am all for people being allowed to send their kids wherever, especially if they don't expect the school to come get them every day, but take them to school or to a regular bus stop.  I think it's crazy to file a law suit over it, especially when a family member actually does live there. 

[AllosaursRus]

My bad! I just re-read that sentence in the OP Rus. I don't think she should pay. I thought that they ordered her to pay the school that the kids went to, not the school that they were supposed to go to. I misread it.
I apologize guys. My bad. She should not pay. That's not right at all. BS away. lol

All is forgiven, I gave ya a ^5 to balance it out. We all misread occasionally. Specially me after a few "Johnny's"! heh!

Couldn't get my mind around why a school who didn't have the expense of education is still owed for children that weren't even ****in' there! It is the Projects, however, and they believe they should get a hand out no matter what! Any bets on how much of that money ever makes it to the kids?

[formerlurker]

You know what I don't understand about this is that Dad lives in that district.  If he pays rents, he is technically paying taxes for that school district.   This really makes no sense at all.   There has to be a great deal of information missing here.

[MrsSmith]

You know what I don't understand about this is that Dad lives in that district.  If he pays rents, he is technically paying taxes for that school district.   This really makes no sense at all.   There has to be a great deal of information missing here.

It's not the childrens' father, it's their grandfather, their mother's dad. 

[formerlurker]

Ah ok -- read it quickly.   I see now.   

[Ptarmigan]

I am surprised this is posted at DU. I think people should have a right to go whatever school they want, not where they are zoned at.

[AllosaursRus]

It's not the childrens' father, it's their grandfather, their mother's dad. 

I missed that, but what exactly difference does that make? Ya mean to tell me they can't stay at grampa's durin' the week in order to go school and make it legal? I'll bet gramps is payin' property taxes!

[Alpha Mare]

How compassionate of you! What would you do for your children in this circumstance? What risk would you take?

I paid $2K per kid (25 years ago) to keep mine out of SD 189. And that was after deductions for 'volunteering' to be Bingo treasurer. All public schools in that city were shit and still are. (They've had sewage flooding them for years!) I don't blame her one bit.  But Jeez Louise- it ain't rocket science.

[MrsSmith]

I missed that, but what exactly difference does that make? Ya mean to tell me they can't stay at grampa's durin' the week in order to go school and make it legal? I'll bet gramps is payin' property taxes!

I would think a simple custody agreement would have made it all legal.  From the sounds of their neighborhood, they should all have lived with Grandpa. 

[JohnnyReb]

I love it when guilt ridden white liberals have to confront the oppressed minority they like to use....when that minority invades their fantasy world. Maybe some day they will realize that when some of us with experience in these matters say something they don't want to hear, we're being truthful, not racist.

[Rebel]

So, is it a white school? Or a school in an upper scale suburban area? Are there any blacks already in the school? Having lived in the South, and from those suburban areas, I've yet to see an "all-white" school".

BTW, I'm all for vouchers and competition-based schooling as seen in many European countries. Not all kids are cut out for Trig, etc., and we need to start capitalizing on what kids are good at. We have two magnet High Schools in Augusta, Ga., A.R. Johnson and Davison Fine Arts. Both are some of the best in the state and both are competition-based and diverse in the inner-city. They're making hovercrafts for science fairs while other students are making play-dough volcanoes.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/education/2011-01-25/class-presents-hovercraft