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Offline JohnnyReb

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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2011, 02:58:20 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on January 23, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
Outhouses are still legal here, as many places up in the hills are so far away from sewer and built on solid rock, there's no way your goin' to put in a septic tank. That bein' said, down in Florida I suspect the "Greeners" had them outlawed in order to try and move the Seminoles out years ago!

I'm not exactly sure what "dry compost" is, but it seems to me to be a contradiction in terms!

Look up "Dirt Comode"....you take a crap and cover it with very dry dirt and in a couple of weeks the 'crap' is dry dirt. You just keep shoveling the dry dirt back and forth for several times then get a fresh crop.

I have no experience with  "dry compost" but do have some with outhouses.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2011, 03:03:16 PM »
Huh Wikipedia IS good for something. It's an excellent source for learning about shit.  :-)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2011, 03:12:16 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on January 23, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
Look up "Dirt Comode"....you take a crap and cover it with very dry dirt and in a couple of weeks the 'crap' is dry dirt. You just keep shoveling the dry dirt back and forth for several times then get a fresh crop.

I have no experience with  "dry compost" but do have some with outhouses.

We have one at the deer camp I belong to.  Twice a year, one of our local guys buys some microbal solution and pours it in.  There's a spring downslope from it, but we don't use it--we bring water in from a municipal system down by Albany.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2011, 05:21:33 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 23, 2011, 02:22:07 PM
I'll bet poor, stupid Beth wishes she had it that good, crammed into a tiny little 40-year-old Airstream with her mother and dogs, out there in the California desert.

Let us not forget her brother. I thought he moved in a while back.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2011, 09:48:36 AM »
Quote from: Tucker on January 24, 2011, 05:21:33 AM
Let us not forget her brother. I thought he moved in a while back.
Seems like he comes and goes between his psychotic episodes....or Beth's.
And her drug dealer son drops by between convictions. It's a big happy family.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2011, 10:39:21 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on January 23, 2011, 02:38:51 PM

I'm not exactly sure what "dry compost" is, but it seems to me to be a contradiction in terms!
Maybe it borrowed a spare litter box from the subway cat?
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2011, 11:10:16 AM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on January 24, 2011, 10:39:21 AM
Maybe it borrowed a spare litter box from the subway cat?

Or Stinky!
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2011, 11:15:09 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 24, 2011, 11:10:16 AM
Or Stinky!

As if it were his to dispense with.  Sparkly's cat would probably castrate you for merely suggesting any possibility of ownership rights to that catbox on the part of Stinky.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2011, 11:15:40 AM »
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 2. Congratulations!!!! A 20 year dream realized. Wow. I hope it goes wonderful for you. I guarantee it will be memorable, adventurous, unpredictable, marvelous, and rewarding.
Also maybe cold????? Don't know where you are, but there is bound to be winter around there somewhere.
Yeah, congrats. ::)
Sounds like killer living quarters/conditions. ::) :whatever:
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2011, 11:23:30 AM »
Quote from: true_blood on January 24, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Yeah, congrats. ::)
Sounds like serial killer living quarters/conditions. ::) :whatever:

Fixed it for ya.  Who are we to hold it against the DUmbshit if he wants to live like the Uni-bonger?!?!
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2011, 11:25:49 AM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on January 24, 2011, 11:15:09 AM
As if it were his to dispense with.  Sparkly's cat would probably castrate you for merely suggesting any possibility of ownership rights to that catbox on the part of Stinky.

Heh! The only sex StinkFinger has seen in years is that cat humpin' his leg! He's never gonna piss off his boyfriend! The box stays!
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 11:34:45 AM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on January 23, 2011, 02:38:51 PM
Outhouses are still legal here, as many places up in the hills are so far away from sewer and built on solid rock, there's no way your goin' to put in a septic tank. That bein' said, down in Florida I suspect the "Greeners" had them outlawed in order to try and move the Seminoles out years ago!

I'm not exactly sure what "dry compost" is, but it seems to me to be a contradiction in terms!

Our property came with an outhouse. It's on the other side of the pond, though. I thought it was disgusting and primitive until we had problems with the septic system and had to wait a day for the septic guys to come out. And it's quite handy when you're working on the other side of the property.

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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 12:14:00 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on January 24, 2011, 11:34:45 AM
Our property came with an outhouse. It's on the other side of the pond, though. I thought it was disgusting and primitive until we had problems with the septic system and had to wait a day for the septic guys to come out. And it's quite handy when you're working on the other side of the property.

Cindie

Yeah, we've got one of those old wooden spools the electric company uses we "transformed" into a make shit toilet out at our pond. We have picnics out there and the kids try and fish, though I think the fish have died out over the years due to snow cover, and the house is better than 300 yds away. Little tough to get there in times of "emergencies"! hehe!

Kinda lets ya "commune with nature" as there's no walls or ceiling!
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 01:56:49 PM »
Wait till DumbDUmb figures out why most homes have a 200A service, and what it costs to replicate that with solar.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2011, 02:37:15 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on January 24, 2011, 01:56:49 PM
Wait till DumbDUmb figures out why most homes have a 200A service, and what it costs to replicate that with solar.

Keep in mind that he has a 1800 watt generator. For reference, I have a 32' double slider. Minimum power to run it is 7000 watts. 5000 watts if I don't use the A/C.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2011, 02:48:51 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on January 24, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Keep in mind that he has a 1800 watt generator. For reference, I have a 32' double slider. Minimum power to run it is 7000 watts. 5000 watts if I don't use the A/C.

Wholly crap! What the hell do ya pull that Aircraft Carrier around with??????
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2011, 02:49:45 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on January 24, 2011, 02:37:15 PM
Keep in mind that he has a 1800 watt generator. For reference, I have a 32' double slider. Minimum power to run it is 7000 watts. 5000 watts if I don't use the A/C.

1700 watts would run my computer, a couple of lights, a space heater, and not much else.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2011, 03:05:46 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 24, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
1700 watts would run my computer, a couple of lights, a space heater, and not much else.

One of my tank heaters is 1400 watts and I have three, if ya add the space heater in the pump hose to those, I'd be over already! Guess the guy don't intend to raise anything but those vegetable thingy's!

I guess he could raise peanuts for protein!
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2011, 03:08:11 PM »
...and burn the shells for heat :rofl:
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2011, 03:48:38 PM »
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7 acre

Thats it? I wonder how much that cost. I've got way more then that.

To do it right he should look at this http://www.coyotecottage.com, they did a good ob of something smiler. Lots of compromise though.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2011, 04:48:35 PM »
The "dry-composting" toilets aren't all that bad really. When properly maintained and operated correctly, they don't stink and produce a sterile fertilizer.

They're in use in many parks and other facilities about here.

I'd be good with a 3KVA generator - given I have no real need for building heating and hot water for washing can be derived from other sources fairly easily and cheaply. AC is for the weak - and besides if you're running a farm you're gonna be outside most the time workin' yer ass out so you won't need it.

The only consideration there is irrigation and fire pumping - and you can get something suitable for a 7 acre lot that runs on gas or diesel.

There are a multitude of 12v "camping" fridge and fridge freezer combos available that suck a good deal less than 1000 watts - If you don't have a large family they're fine. Obviously you're not going to stuff a whole beast in one so if you plan to do that you'll need something a bit larger, or grow a smaller type of beast, or be in a position to trade with your neighbor for other things.


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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2011, 04:50:39 PM »
A correctly-built house with shade and adequate cross-ventilation shouldn't need AC unless you live in Death Valley (or Texas :wink:).
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2011, 04:52:08 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 24, 2011, 04:50:39 PM
A correctly-built house with shade and adequate cross-ventilation shouldn't need AC unless you live in Death Valley (or Texas :wink:).

You've never been to Florida in August have you?  :-)
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2011, 04:52:37 PM »
Quote from: AllosaursRus on January 24, 2011, 02:48:51 PM
Wholly crap! What the hell do ya pull that Aircraft Carrier around with??????

My pick up. It's a 3/4 ton HD.

Actually I don't pull it very much. It's set up in TN. We stay there when we go to TN. I'm taking my wife down on March 1st. She's not coming back to MI. I'm taking 3/4 of the furniture down before I take her down. Since it has 2 separate living rooms, we can manage to get along. I'm moving down this summer.
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Re: primitive goes back to rustic life-style
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2011, 06:55:51 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on January 24, 2011, 04:50:39 PM
A correctly-built house with shade and adequate cross-ventilation shouldn't need AC unless you live in Death Valley (or Texas :wink:).
Provided you don't mind being sweaty for several months every year. I grew up in a shady, cross-ventilated house, and it was okay - until we got AC and realized how miserable we'd been.
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