25 Tons of Bombs Wipe Afghan Town Off Map

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n2doc  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jan-19-11 08:49 PM
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25 Tons of Bombs Wipe Afghan Town Off Map   Updated at 8:49 PM
   
By Spencer Ackerman January 19, 2011 | 3:45 pm | Categories: Af/Pak


An American-led military unit pulverized an Afghan village in Kandahar’s Arghandab River Valley in October, after it became overrun with Taliban insurgents. It’s hard to understand how turning an entire village into dust fits into America’s counterinsurgency strategy — which supposedly prizes the local people’s loyalty above all else.

But it’s the latest indication that Gen. David Petraeus, the counterinsurgency icon, is prosecuting a frustrating war with surprising levels of violence. Some observers already fear a backlash brewing in the area.

Paula Broadwell, a West Point graduate and Petraeus biographer, described the destruction of Tarok Kolache in a guest post for Tom Ricks’ Foreign Policy blog. Or, at least, she described its aftermath: Nothing remains of Tarok Kolache after Lt. Col. David Flynn, commander of Combined Joint Task Force 1-320th, made a fateful decision in October.

His men had come under relentless assault from homemade bombs emanating from the village, where a Taliban “intimidation campaign the villagers out” to create a staging ground for attacking the task force. With multiple U.S. amputations the result of the Taliban hold over Tarok Kolache, Flynn’s men were “terrified to go back into the pomegranate orchards to continue clearing ; it seemed like certain death.”

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Prior to Jan of 2009, this would have brought out calls for impeachment, frog marching, and execution for war crimes.

Catherina  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jan-19-11 08:54 PM
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3. Peace. Nobel Peace Prize. Hope. Change. America God Damn!   Updated at 2:36 PM
   
How many lives and for ****ing what?

cottonseed  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed Jan-19-11 09:02 PM
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7. Do you care about this village? Or trying to connect this with President Obama.
   
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 09:06 PM by cottonseed
Hateful one you are.

I don't visit this place much anymore. Seeing things like this reminds me why. Ridiculous and void of any thought.

I seem to recall a recent event where a public official was shot in the head and 90% of the left only cared about connecting it to the right.

Not a single call for impeachment, not a single cry for frogmarching, not an utterance of war crimes.
If this happened under Bush we would hear, hang him high, shouted from every mountaintop.

[GOBUCKS]

How can you have a "surprising level of violence" in a war?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

How can you have a "surprising level of violence" in a war?

They don't know much 'bout history.

[AllosaursRus]

Uh, so what? It states they were makin' the bombs killin' US soldiers. Does that not make a damn bit of difference to you "patriots"?

Of course not! We mighta killed a few women and children who were manufacturin' the damn things! You don't seriously think those big brave Jihadist men do women's work now do ya?

**** you people! One Marine is worth a whole ****in' village as far as I'm concerned! If they don't want to get bombed, maybe they should run those murderin' bastards out of their village! Until they do, they are fair game, IMHO!

The Muzzies can stop this shit any time they like! Turn those that have nothin' but hatred in their hearts, and refuse to let us live in peace, out of their abodes! If not, they get everything they deserve! As far as I'm concerned, it's pretty apparent they agree with their philosophy, so they can eat lead just like those they protect!

It's ****in' war, ya morons! All's fair in love and war! Ever heard that, DUmbasses? Y'all won't last long if ya don't learn it soon, especially if ya decide to take us on!

[Chris_]

Petraeus needs to bomb the word 'Taliban' out of the dictionary... if you catch my meaning.

[GOBUCKS]

One thing muslims don't have to worry about: We can't bomb them BACK to the stone age.

[Chris_]

I'd be mad too if I had to use a rock and a handful of sand for toilet paper.

Maybe someone should tell them about the New York Times.

[AllosaursRus]

I'd be mad too if I had to use a rock and a handful of sand for toilet paper.

Maybe someone should tell them about the New York Times.

They can't use it for that! It's their best source of intel on what us infidels are up to! Hell, the times knows what the gubmint is doin' before our military does!

[diesel driver]

One thing muslims don't have to worry about: We can't bomb them BACK to the stone age.

That would set their culture back 2-3 weeks, tops.

Others would consider it "modernization". 

[dutch508]

The Taliban and AQ had forcibly removed the people of that village and set the whole thing up as a death trap.

If DU had some sense (I know I know) they may as some point read something other than propaganda.

[Godot showed up]

It’s hard to understand how turning an entire village into dust fits into America’s counterinsurgency strategy — which supposedly prizes the local people’s loyalty above all else.

But it doens't prize any such thing, you America-hating idiot; counterinsurgency strategy is worthwhile ONLY insofar as it furthers the ultimate military goal of 1) making the enemy stop attacking and taking away his territory, and 2) killing as many of the enemy as possible. Counterinsurgency is a military strategy, and has to further military goals.

[GOBUCKS]

Most likely that photo has been photoshopped beyond recognition, but that's one impressive pattern of craters. Granted, that clutch of mud huts probably didn't have much AAA, but I suspect accuracy like that would be remarkable even if it were Nevada. Those guys really can drop them in a pickle barrel.

[Airwolf]

How can you have a "surprising level of violence" in a war?

Exactly. We used to flatten entire German cities with thousands of B-17's that would make this look like someone dropped a handgrenade into a barrel of oatmeal.

[Airwolf]

One thing muslims don't have to worry about: We can't bomb them BACK to the stone age.

No we can't but we can bomb them out of existence.

[DumbAss Tanker]

No we can't but we can bomb them out of existence.

Sadly, not possible, especially with cross-border sanctuaries at their disposal, but we can cull the living shit out of the herd.

[Godot showed up]

Sadly, not possible, especially with cross-border sanctuaries at their disposal, but we can cull the living shit out of the herd.

That's probably what this will come down to in the end, assuming we don't just commit civilizational suicide. A serious, dramatic shift in the gene pools of Islamic countries, especially Arab Islamic countries. A LOT of their more aggressive males are simply going to have to die, and NOT pass on their genes.

I'm talking 10s of millions here.

[AllosaursRus]

That's probably what this will come down to in the end, assuming we don't just commit civilizational suicide. A serious, dramatic shift in the gene pools of Islamic countries, especially Arab Islamic countries. A LOT of their more aggressive males are simply going to have to die, and NOT pass on their genes.

I'm talking 10s of millions here.

Sounds like a plan to me! Can we start in Detroit? I'm of a mind that American Muslims may become our greatest threat!

[JohnnyReb]

Lets just call it "Urban Renewal".

[jukin]

Curtis LeMay is smiling.

Jukin approves of old school iron bombs destroying cities that allow our enemies to thrive. I'm sure this is the greatest (next to GITMO) terrorist recruiting tool ever...except for all the dead terrorists.

[true_blood]

One thing muslims don't have to worry about: We can't bomb them BACK to the stone age.

That would set their culture back 2-3 weeks, tops.
Others would consider it "modernization". 

HA! How true that is.
They, and their hateful little book, haven't gotten past the 7th century yet.

[GOBUCKS]

Curtis LeMay is smiling.

You got that right. General LeMay could only dream of that many overlapping craters. Of course, he may have preferred incendiaries, but it's hard to keep a mud hut lit.

[Airwolf]

You got that right. General LeMay could only dream of that many overlapping craters. Of course, he may have preferred incendiaries, but it's hard to keep a mud hut lit.

Not if you use napalm.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Curtis LeMay is smiling.

Humanity has never been at a loss for the means to destroy entire towns and cities.

One of the earliest and most significant was Carthage.

[BlueStateSaint]

Humanity has never been at a loss for the means to destroy entire towns and cities.

Just look at Detroit and Chicago!