There is no free speech in the USA

[CC27]

SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jan-15-11 08:48 AM
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There is no free speech in the USA
   


When only the corporate side is heard over the airwaves.
When the wealthy interests have so much control in setting the topic when reaching the masses.

How is that free speech?

Controlling the topic? You weirdos do that all the time.

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[NHSparky]

Lord, that's the worst case of eaten up by the DUmbass I've ever seen.

Then again, I don't hang around DU much.  I'm sure if I did I'd find much, much worse.

[Freeper]

DUmmies only want free speech for them.
Us on the right? We need to be shut up. That is why the so desperately want to pin the shootings on the right. They see a golden opportunity to shut us up.

[Carl]

DUmmies only want free speech for them.
Us on the right? We need to be shut up. That is why the so desperately want to pin the shootings on the right. They see a golden opportunity to shut us up.

The winner.....H5

[compaqxp]

I figured out long ago most people only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

[Attero Dominatus]

baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jan-15-11 09:34 AM
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8. What about control?
   
Rupert Murdoch can get his talking heads say any damn thing he wants anytime on any of the million outlets he controls.

Micheal Moore has to beg his distributor for six months before they release his film - which goes on to be the highest-grossing documentary of all time.

Who's got control?
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Fox News is a news network that runs continuously, reporting events as they happen and discussing events that recently happened. Micheal Mooron's bullshit documentaries are films that have to get investors (I am surprised that anyone would invest in his stuff but I digress), then go through research (or what passes for research in his case: remember that communist Cuba banned Sicko), then be scripted, filmed, edited, promoted and distributed, then released at a date where it will believed to gather the most amount of sales; all of that takes months.

MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jan-15-11 09:40 AM
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10. Nonsense. We have free speech. Getting someone to listen
   
is the hard part, and the part that requires money. You can say any damn thing you want, but if nobody's listening, you might as well not.

On the other hand, if you say things really, really well, you can get some attention on the tubes.
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Two words: Air America. People do not like to hear bullshit.

[txradioguy]

When only the corporate side is heard over the airwaves.
When the wealthy interests have so much control in setting the topic when reaching the masses.

Hey!  Didn't this guy just spam our General Discussion forum?

[Carl]

I figured out long ago most people only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

Not to put too fine a point on it but you don`t have the same opinions in general as most folks here but we still allow you to voice them.

There is a difference between the left and right when it comes to the concept free speech.

[DLR Pyro]

Lets see.  The DUmmies are all a glee about a peitition circulating to get Glenn Beck pulled from the airwaves (Beck is dooooooommmmmeeeee.....), and just try to be a conservative at their site and post you point of view and see how long before you are served a granite tombstone.  And they rail on about the lack of free speech in this Country....

[Odin's Hand]

Free speech = subsidized Err America radio in DUmmyland.

[Freeper]

I figured out long ago most people only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

Most of us conservatives well most that I know anyway, are more than happy to let the left have their venues of speech.
I have yet to see a movement trying to silence Keef, Sgt Shultz, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, and so forth. In fact we encourage the lefties to get out there and speak. When they speak out, they show how insane they are.

[NHSparky]

Rupert Murdoch can get his talking heads say any damn thing he wants anytime on any of the million outlets he controls.

Funny, but last time I checked, CNN and MSNBC are carried in MORE homes than FNC.  Yet who has the better ratings?

Oh, and IIRC, FNC (Murdoch) doesn't tell liberal commentators like Lanny Davis, Susan Estrich, et al, what to say on FNC shows.  Just ask all those conservative commentators on Olbermann...yep...all ZERO of them.  He has yet to have a conservative on that show, ever.

[Varokhâr]

DUmmies only want free speech for them.
Us on the right? We need to be shut up. That is why the so desperately want to pin the shootings on the right. They see a golden opportunity to shut us up.

Amen. Free speech for the Left - a gulag for the Right.

Yeah, no free speech in the US - that's why DU exists and why the mainstream media can spout any leftist view it likes and Democrats hold office, because rich Republicans run everything, right?

Sounds like their brains are in the bongwater.

[Rebel]

I figured out long ago most people only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

Not conservatives. Hence, you're still here and Laelth still has an account. Only people who hold that opinion are the ones that are afraid of their opposition's message. I assure you, we're not.

[Varokhâr]

Not conservatives. Hence, you're still here and Laelth still has an account. Only people who hold that opinion are the ones that are afraid of their opposition's message. I assure you, we're not.

That's why the Left needs bayonets and bloody revolutions to defeat the Right, while the Right simply has to be able to air our voices and opinions freely in order to defeat the Left.

Heck, that's why Rush never hangs up on even the most irate liberal caller to his show. He knows he can always out-think and out-debate any of them. Conservatives who try calling in to liberal radio or TV shows can always expect to be made fun of and hung up on.

[ColonialMarine0431]

SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jan-15-11 08:48 AM
Original message
There is no free speech in the USA
   


When only the corporate side is heard over the airwaves.
When the wealthy interests have so much control in setting the topic when reaching the masses.

How is that free speech?

If there was no free speech in America you would have been hauled away for making that post.

Dickhead.

[whiffleball]

I have yet to see a movement trying to silence Keef, Sgt Shultz, Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, and so forth. In fact we encourage the lefties to get out there and speak. When they speak out, they show how insane they are.

Good point.  Their spokespersons do them little favor.   

[txradioguy]

I figured out long ago most people only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

Well that would explain why my membership applications keep getting turned down at DU.

But that doesn't explain how you're still here.

[ColonialMarine0431]

Well that would explain why my membership applications keep getting turned down at DU.

But that doesn't explain how you're still here.

 

Touche' !

On Skin's Island if you don't follow the Party Line you get booted. That's how libTURDs operate; They "love" free speech....until you debate them or hold an opposing view.

[true_blood]

MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Sat Jan-15-11 09:40 AM
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10. Nonsense. We have free speech. Getting someone to listen is the hard part, and the part that requires money. You can say any damn thing you want, but if nobody's listening, you might as well not.
On the other hand, if you say things really, really well, you can get some attention on the tubes.

In other words, don't get high all the time and try to make some sense. Something the DUmmies have no control over.

[littlelamb]

Free speech to a DUmmy is only allowed when you say what they want to hear

[DefiantSix]

I figured out long ago most people leftists only support your free speech if you have the same opinions as them.

Fixed 'er for ya.  Most people who aren't barking moonbats range from 'openly giving everyone's voice it's due consideration' to 'say what you want; I don't give a shit'.  It's only the leftists I know which have to dominate the dialogue, can't stand hearing anything but a chorus in an echo chamber, and feel the need to squelch all dissent to their dogma.

[KittenClaws]

Fixed 'er for ya.  Most people who aren't barking moonbats range from 'openly giving everyone's voice it's due consideration' to 'say what you want; I don't give a shit'.  It's only the leftists I know which have to dominate the dialogue, can't stand hearing anything but a chorus in an echo chamber, and feel the need to squelch all dissent to their dogma.

Libs "feel" too much. That's their problem.

Now, Conservatives, they are "thinkers". No matter if the truth they see causes them bad "feelings".

So, of course, the feelers, knowing their beliefs are not reality based, must squelch the voice of their superiors.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Sounds like ol' shred might actually comprendo wtf Loughner was talking about, he/she/it seems to be taking off on a similar tangent...

 

[Airwolf]

What a ****ing DUmbass .