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Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« on: January 11, 2011, 09:58:28 PM »
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Taverner   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 09:52 PM
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Bring back the State Mental Health Institutions
   
Let them be places of research - of countless studies being done

Let them be dignified

Let them be no different than any other institutions that deal with medical malady

That's the only way
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cali (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 09:55 PM
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1. no. don't.
   
it is absolutely NOT the only way. Group homes and independent living are far far better than state mental hospitals.

cali is worried about computer privileges at state institutions.

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bettyellen (1000+ posts)           Tue Jan-11-11 10:27 PM
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6. i have to say my cousin group home was horrifying compared to the state
   
hospital my brother was in. not that that wasn;t plenty depressing. i just don;t think we'd fund either properly, so I'm lost on this one.
except I;d like to see more crises support. it seems like helping people through the worst of their struggles could help here. instead of warehousing people

Crazy runs in the family. :mental:

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Manifestor_of_Light   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 09:58 PM
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2. what I know about a county mental hospital.
   
Why should they keep somebody in a locked ward 24/7 for two weeks and offer ONE hour a week of ANY kind of therapy? Art therapy. No talking, no group therapy.

That's warehousing.

That's the perfect solution for DUmmies.

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lightningandsnow   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 10:23 PM
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4. NO.
   
I have bipolar disorder. I'd rather live in the community, not locked away as some kind of test subject. I have friends and family who love me and want me in society. If I become acutely ill again, I am okay with having to have a short-term stay in a hospital. I am not okay with being a virtual prisoner in a state hospital. The thought of it is one of my biggest fears.

If it's no different from medical malady, would you lock someone with fibromyalgia in a "dignified" facility? Heart disease? Kidney failure?

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AlabamaLibrul   (878 posts)           Tue Jan-11-11 10:24 PM
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5. No, **** no, and if you know anything about these places you should be ashamed to say that
   
Edited on Tue Jan-11-11 10:25 PM by AlabamaLibrul
It is my worst fear, beyond all else.

That guy sounds Loughnery to me.

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TheDebbieDee   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 10:51 PM
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13. I'd be afraid that we'd be locking the mentally ill up with
   
some caretakers that may be sadistic and mentally ill as well...........

I think it may be best for them to be out and mainstreamed where we can all SEE what is going on with them, instead of locked behind iron gates and closed doors.

Most of the DUmmies are against this idea, but don't they curse at Ronald Reagan for closing mental health institutions?

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 10:04:51 PM »
Stalin and Hitler would have just had them killed.
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 10:31:57 PM »
Why do we need state run sanitariums when privately funded snake pits like Democrat Underground  gets the loonies to voluntarily enter  and even donate to their care?
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2011, 01:22:53 AM »
Uh, don't you loony toons have family? Back in my day, we just locked y'all up in the attic! Seemed to work just fine! Didn't need no gubmint handouts either! We slid yer cat food under the door and nobody talked about crazy aunt Emma! Worked for generations and nobody gave 'em a gun so everybody was safe!
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2011, 08:25:30 AM »
Uh, don't you loony toons have family? Back in my day, we just locked y'all up in the attic! Seemed to work just fine! Didn't need no gubmint handouts either! We slid yer cat food under the door and nobody talked about crazy aunt Emma! Worked for generations and nobody gave 'em a gun so everybody was safe!

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2011, 09:31:43 AM »
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 09:49:17 AM »
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TheDebbieDee   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 10:51 PM
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13. I'd be afraid that we'd be locking the mentally ill up with
   
some caretakers that may be sadistic and mentally ill as well...........

Isn't it liberals that mostly go into this profession?
Come to think of it, unions do create jobs. Companies have to hire two workers to do the work of one.

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 10:19:13 AM »
Isn't it liberals that mostly go into this profession?

Why yes.  As a matter of fact, I seem to recall that moonbats, fruits, nuts and flakes seem to dominate most of the "soft sciences": psychology, sociology and the like.  Perhaps that's because they do so poorly when faced with a situation where reality and facts (as may be required in the hard sciences) are dominant.
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 11:12:54 AM »
It does sound like an awful lot of them are deeply concerned about what their new digs would be like if that came to pass, doesn't it?

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2011, 12:14:39 PM »
It does sound like an awful lot of them are deeply concerned about what their new digs would be like if that came to pass, doesn't it?

 :rotf:

but a caring staff would take care of all their needs . . . why are they worried??

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »
I'm surprised that Skinner hasn't thought of lacing the water on the 'Island with Thorazine.  :stoner:
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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 12:27:01 PM »
I'm surprised that Skinner hasn't thought of lacing the water on the 'Island with Thorazine.  :stoner:

That's too mild and would never be noticed among the pharmaceuticals that the DUmmies already take voluntarily.

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 12:31:26 PM »
Yeah, and you gotta be careful of drug interactions, too, as dosed-up as they are, and on as many different things.

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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 12:43:41 PM »
Lets just lock 'em up, feed 'em Soylent Green, and forget about it! There's enough of 'em they would be carbon neutral! Isn't that the life long ambition of DUmmies, anyway?
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 04:17:49 PM »
Lets just lock 'em up, feed 'em make 'em into Soylent Green, and forget about it! There's enough of 'em they would be carbon neutral! Isn't that the life long ambition of DUmmies, anyway?

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Re: Tavenerner has the solution for the DUmmies.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2011, 07:34:15 PM »
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Taverner   (1000+ posts)             Tue Jan-11-11 09:52 PM
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Bring back the State Mental Health Institutions
Let them be places of research - of countless studies being done Let them be dignified Let them be no different than any other institutions that deal with medical malady That's the only way
Yes,...and let them start with DUmmies and liberals. :wink:

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 02:51:54 PM »
That's too mild and would never be noticed among the pharmaceuticals that the DUmmies already take voluntarily.

If Thorazine doesn't affect 'em any more, we can always bump it up to Hydrazine.  :fuelfire:
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 03:18:42 PM »
Yeah, great idea Tavener...   Guess you're to young to remember this

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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2011, 03:19:24 PM »
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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