Bush orders his Kuwaiti minions to torture some guy for some reason

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jan-07-11 02:46 AM
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Glenn Greenwald: U.S. teenager tortured in Kuwait and barred re-entry into the U.S.   Updated at 2:46 AM
   
from Salon.com:

Gulet Mohamed is an 18-year-old American citizen whose family is Somalian. His parents moved with him to the U.S. when he was 2 or 3 years old, and he has lived in the U.S. ever since. In March, 2009, he went to study Arabic and Islam in Yemen (in Sana'a, the nation's capital), and, after several weeks, left (at his mother's urging) and went to visit his mother's family in Somalia, staying with his uncle there for several months. Roughly one year ago, he left Somalia and traveled to Kuwait to stay with other family members who live there. Like many teenagers who reach early adulthood, he was motivated in his travels by a desire to see the world, to study, and to get to know his family's ancestral homeland and his faraway relatives.

At all times, Mohamed traveled on an American passport and had valid visas for all the countries he visited. He has never been arrested nor -- until two weeks ago -- was he ever involved with law enforcement in any way, including the entire time he lived in the U.S.

Approximately two weeks ago (on December 20), Mohamed went to the airport in Kuwait to have his visa renewed, as he had done every three months without incident for the last year. This time, however, he was told by the visa officer that his name had been marked in the computer, and after waiting five hours, he was taken into a room and interrogated by officials who refused to identify themselves. They then handcuffed and blindfolded him and drove him to some other locale. That was the start of a two-week-long, still ongoing nightmare during which he was imprisoned for a week in an unknown location by unknown captors, relentlessly interrogated, and severely beaten and threatened with even worse forms of torture.

Mohamed's story was first reported this morning by Mark Mazzetti in The New York Times, who spoke with Mohamed by telephone, where he is currently being held in a deportation center in Kuwait. I also spoke with Mohamed this morning, and my 50-minute conversation with him was recorded and can be heard on the recorder below. Mazzetti did a good job of describing Mohamed's version of events. He writes that during his 90-minute conversation, "Mr. Mohamed was agitated as he recounted his captivity, tripping over his words and breaking into tears." ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/...

Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jan-07-11 03:00 AM
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1. Well he is brown and he has a funny name
   
Why WOULDN'T we torture...oops I mean talk to him?


Please don't make me put the sarcasm tag?Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jan-07-11 03:00 AM
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1. Well he is brown and he has a funny name
   
Why WOULDN'T we torture...oops I mean talk to him?

Please don't make me put the sarcasm tag?

slipslidingaway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jan-07-11 05:27 AM
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3. knr ...
   
"...The Bush-era torture scandal was as much about its use of torture-administering allies as it was the torture regime which the U.S. itself created. In the face of these credible allegations -- just listen to this American teenager talk and assess how credible he is -- the Obama administration, at the very least, has the obligation to inform the public about whether this is true, what its role was, if any, and what it's doing to investigate and protest this abuse of its own citizen..."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x129622

OK lurking jerkwads,

1. This happened 2 weeks ago. Not during Bush's reign.

2. This happened in Kuwait, not the US

3. Obama's DHS put this guy on the watch list or the Kuwaitis did

4. Clinton gave us the practice of extraordinary rendition

5. The last Somali who spoke of being tortured said Jewish magicians from the US were using demon-possessed cats to rape him and only by chanting Islamic passages was he able to resist

[BlueStateSaint]

5. The last Somali who spoke of being tortured said Jewish magicians from the US were using demon-possessed cats to rape him and only by chanting Islamic passages was he able to resist

My Oreo couldn't have been part of this.  She got fixed.

[NHSparky]

Because mommy is so concerned with her son's safety she sends him from YEMEN TO SOMALIA???

Stop.  Hurt.  Sides.  Laughing.

[Karin]

In March, 2009, he went to study Arabic and Islam in Yemen

 Terrorist training camp, of course.  How dense and naive is this Glenn Greenwald that the DUmmies revere so much?  

Curiously none of the DUmmie comments recognize your five points, SGT SB.

[Rebel]

Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Fri Jan-07-11 03:00 AM

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1. Well he is brown and he has a funny name

Like Condy Rice, and they seem to have a great friendship. Now admit it, DUmbass, it really has not a f'n thing to do with a color.

[DumbAss Tanker]

 Terrorist training camp, of course.  How dense and naive is this Glenn Greenwald that the DUmmies revere so much?  

That's exactly what it sounds like to me.

[Varokhâr]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x129622

OK lurking jerkwads,

1. This happened 2 weeks ago. Not during Bush's reign.

2. This happened in Kuwait, not the US

3. Obama's DHS put this guy on the watch list or the Kuwaitis did

4. Clinton gave us the practice of extraordinary rendition

5. The last Somali who spoke of being tortured said Jewish magicians from the US were using demon-possessed cats to rape him and only by chanting Islamic passages was he able to resist

Indeed; stupid Democrats just believe whatever they're told, especially if you throw in the words "Bush" and "torture".

But, they can't be bothered with the facts. After all, they're Democrats and they're on a mission for humanity

[formerlurker]

ENTRY / EXIT REQUIREMENTS: Passports and visas are required for U.S. citizens traveling to Kuwait. U.S. citizens can obtain visitor visas for a fee at the port of entry in Kuwait. Travelers who overstay their visas may be required to pay large fines before leaving Kuwait. Travelers who leave Kuwait without completing Kuwaiti exit procedures may also be required to pay large fines if they return and attempt to depart from Kuwait. This includes travelers proceeding via Kuwait to and from Iraq and Afghanistan. Visas can be obtained upon arrival in Kuwait for a fee of 3 Kuwaiti Dinar (about $10.50). For further information on entry and exit requirements, travelers may contact the Embassy of Kuwait at 2940 Tilden Street NW, Washington, DC 20008, telephone (202) 966-0702, or the Kuwaiti Consulate in New York City, telephone (212) 973-4318.

Kuwaiti officials are extremely sensitive about travel to Iraq. There have been instances in which U.S. citizens, especially those of Iraqi descent, have been detained for questioning at ports of entry/exit. U.S, citizens seeking to travel to Iraq through Kuwait have also on occasion been turned around and/or detained. On a number of occasions the border between Iraq and Kuwait has been closed without notice, stranding U.S. citizens on either side of the border.

Kuwaitis and non-Kuwaitis, including U.S. citizens, who have been charged with criminal offenses, placed under investigation, or involved in unresolved financial disputes with local business partners are subject to travel bans. These bans, which are rigidly enforced, prevent the individual from leaving Kuwait for any reason until the matter is resolved. Travel bans can be initiated by any person for almost any reason and may remain in place for a substantial period of time while the case is being investigated. Expatriates have been detained in Kuwait for cases with seemingly little or no evidence or legal merit. A person who has influence with the Kuwaiti government can ensure that a travel ban remains in place even if a judge or government official states the ban should be lifted. In case of purely financial disputes, it may be possible to depart the country if a local sponsor pledges funds equal to the amount in dispute. The U.S. Embassy can assist U.S. citizens in obtaining legal representation but cannot remove travel bans.

The government of Kuwait has strict regulations regarding certain diseases such as HIV/AIDS and Hepatitis. Medical examinations are required for all residency applications and any applicants who are found positive for these restricted diseases will be asked to leave the country immediately and will be permanently barred from re-entry. Please inquire directly with the Embassy of Kuwait at http://www.embassy.org/embassies/kw.html before travelling.

Information about dual nationality or the prevention of international child abduction can be found on our website. For further information about customs regulations, please read our Customs Information page.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_944.html


Travel at own risk kids.

[Wineslob]

and after waiting five hours, he was taken into a room and interrogated by officials who refused to identify themselves[/quote]

Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Jan-07-11 03:00 AM
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1. Well he is brown and he has a funny name
   
Why WOULDN'T we torture...oops I mean talk to him

?


Typical DUmass, it's ALL the US's faut.   

[DumbAss Tanker]

While we are on very good terms with the Kuwaitis, they DEFINITELY do their own thing, not our bidding.

[true_blood]

In March, 2009, he went to study Arabic and Islam in Yemen

Mmmm,.....last name Mohammed, goes to study Arabic and Islam.
Are those the types of people that want to blow up the people in the West and all the "infidels"? I do recall some events where people of that origin, did try and did succeed in doing that.

[AllosaursRus]

Uh, anyone who travels to Yemen, to study Islam, ( wink, wink ), then goes to visit "friends" in Somalia, ( home of the modern day Capt Hooks and an Al Queda training ground ), then slips into Kuwait, deserves everything he gets, no matter what his excuses are!

Nuttin' like puttin' a big sign on your back that says Terrorist!!!!!

[true_blood]

Uh, anyone who travels to Yemen, to study Islam, ( wink, wink ), then goes to visit "friends" in Somalia, ( home of the modern day Capt Hooks and an Al Queda training ground ), then slips into Kuwait, deserves everything he gets, no matter what his excuses are!
Nuttin' like puttin' a big sign on your back that says Terrorist!!!!!

And yet, the DUmmies and libs all support the terrorist?!?! How ignorant can they be?
Oh wait,...very ignorant and very anti-American.

[Rebel]

malaise  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-07-11 06:51 AM

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6. If the US can capture and remove the President
   
of independent Haiti from his own country and deny him the right to return to his homeland, who the **** is safe?

He is, now.

[AllosaursRus]

He is, now.

No SHIT! I tell ya what DUmmies, let's give the bastard a first class ticket back and see how long he lasts!!!!

Think Mussolini!

Idiots!

[Airwolf]

I'm reminded of a scene in "Dirty Harry" where the Mayor of SF asked Harry if he was following Scorpio around and they get to the part about him beating on the bad guy.

Harry: Well anyone can tel I didn't do that.

Mayor: How So?

Harry: Because he looks to dam good that's why.