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Offline Tess Anderson

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"Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« on: December 31, 2010, 05:28:02 PM »
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This title post sounds more like a whine to unionize, but if this poster's husband really had a heart attack two months ago and is working over 95 hours a week, she shouldn't be grateful. But then, that's a big if:

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one_voice  (1000+ posts)      Fri Dec-31-10 05:44 PM
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Be grateful you've got a job...
 My husband went to work for a company a year and a half ago. When he was hired, he was told what his base salary would be, plus the company had bonuses if you met or exceeded certain goals. He was told he'd have a review after a year, and a raise if his work merited it.

He works about 15 hours a day, with the exception of Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday he usually works 8-10 hrs and about 6 on Sunday. He's required to use his personal cell for business and is required to answer at all times..unless he's sleeping.

It seemed to be a good get, decent salary, bonuses, supposed to be "normal" hours. So hubby busted his ass exceeded all goals since he started and has yet to receive a bonus. They keep moving the goal post. This company has offices all over the East coast, and his office is ranked number..up from last..when he was hired. But still no bonus and no review or raise.

Today was pay day. No check, this is the second time in a month this has happened. All of "corporate" were off today so there was no one to and ask where the paychecks were. No one in his office was paid. They're going to have to wait till Monday to see what the problem is. All of corporate and the veeps have auto deposit...they won't offer that to the "lowly" workers.

A few people have complained about the amount of work vs pay and the hours...mind you things changed once you started. They were told they shouldn't be complaining they're lucky they have a job. Many of the people that work with my husband live paycheck to paycheck. Having to wait even a day can really hurt. When the checks didn't come before they were again told you're lucky you have a job.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm very grateful he's one of the employed. What bothers me is the idea that these people think they treat you anyway they want because they know there aren't any jobs. They skirt the law in paying OT, and dare you to complain.

The union has been trying to get to this company but so far no luck. I think this is how things are going to be permanently. The jobs aren't coming back, and people are going to be forced to work in f'd up situations because there are no jobs.

My husband had a heart attack in Oct. It happened on a Wed. he came home that weekend, told the doc he'd lose his job (yes he was afraid of that) so the doc let him go back to work that Monday half days for a week, which meant 4hrs in the office 8hrs at home.

Anyone else working for a company that thinks they "own" you?

Thanks for letting me vent.


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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 05:32:49 PM »
Well, except for TwitBoy, anyway.  :lmao:
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 05:41:04 PM »
It's in our contract that we have to be paid by a certain time on payday, or the company has to pay us for the time we're waiting.  They've never been late.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 06:35:19 PM »
I have a friend that was forced into unionization. About 4 years later he could not compete and went out of business.

I dare anyone to name one thing that a union does to help the compan...er host organism survive, just one thing.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 06:43:11 PM »
Quote from: jukin on December 31, 2010, 06:35:19 PM
I have a friend that was forced into unionization. About 4 years later he could not compete and went out of business.

I dare anyone to name one thing that a union does to help the compan...er host organism survive, just one thing.

I think many times the unions hurt their members. 
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 06:56:59 PM »
Bouncy--and a bad one at that.  Show me a company that would rather cut paper checks than direct deposit.  The savings going paperless would be substantial, not to mention the fact that they wouldn't have to play that bank game.  Show me a company that would risk the ire of the state Labor Board for paying their employees late not just once, but several times according to the OP.  Companies are REQUIRED by law to post their payday and adhere to it.

Plus, if the company is willing to kill a guy over a mild heart attack--and let's face it, it probably wasn't more than just angina, because NO competent physician or cardiologist is going to risk the malpractice lawsuit by sending a guy back to work (even half days) a mere 48 hours after a REAL heart attack.  And again, if the company is going to push like that, then they're incurring a significant liability as well.

Negative bongs.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2010, 07:00:58 PM »
What a load of crap or they are both just utterly stupid. Let's see their employment practices are abyssmal and they aren't paying their employees. Hey, DUmmies, that is not SOP!!!!!!!! Your husbands scared of losing a job with a company that is at best unethical and at worst insolvent if what you say is true. And no, not all companies are operating like this in these times. I got paid every 2 weeks on time by my employer and they were very flexible to my situation with my children. In fact, I was asked when I resigned for this new opportunity what they could do to keep me there. Your husband's situation is NOT normal and regarding the pay issue, this is one time your fellow dummies should be encouraging you to seek some legal aid--that is not proper or even legal, I'm sure.


As for the direct deposit thing, I've never heard of a company in the last 20 years not offering that service to even 'lowly' employees. It's not like it's some upper management bonus or something. It's an ACH transaction that the company's HR handles or a service they pay outside handles. The bank probably only charges an unusual fee if they put that ACH in LATE for that day, not for doing so many of them in one batch.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 07:01:51 PM »
DUmmies lie, all the time.
I find it difficult to believe this story.
7 days a week. five 15 hour days, an 8-12 hour day and a 6 hour day.
after a year without a break, he has a heart attack? and for fear of losing a job, he continues on at work anyways?

and his loving wife does what to help with the bills? Work?

one voice, is a socialist out to get her Commie merit badge. Corporations/capitalism bad, working man good.
Just another bouncy. More than likely her hubby is lazy union thug who never works a second of overtime.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 09:29:42 PM »
Ya'll heard her.  She's not worried about herself, she's worried about everyone else.

If she were really that worried, she'd name the company.

Yeah, I believe her.   ::)
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 07:46:51 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on December 31, 2010, 06:56:59 PM
Bouncy--and a bad one at that.  Show me a company that would rather cut paper checks than direct deposit.  The savings going paperless would be substantial, not to mention the fact that they wouldn't have to play that bank game.  Show me a company that would risk the ire of the state Labor Board for paying their employees late not just once, but several times according to the OP.  Companies are REQUIRED by law to post their payday and adhere to it.

Plus, if the company is willing to kill a guy over a mild heart attack--and let's face it, it probably wasn't more than just angina, because NO competent physician or cardiologist is going to risk the malpractice lawsuit by sending a guy back to work (even half days) a mere 48 hours after a REAL heart attack.  And again, if the company is going to push like that, then they're incurring a significant liability as well.

Negative bongs.

I smelled bouncy when she said her hubby was "required to use his personal cell for business and is required to answer at all times..unless he's sleeping."
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 08:38:33 AM »
You've got to wonder why hubby isn't putting in aps everywhere in order to dump this horrible job.  I know I would...   :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 09:14:53 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on January 01, 2011, 08:38:33 AM
You've got to wonder why hubby isn't putting in aps everywhere in order to dump this horrible job.  I know I would...   :rotf: :rotf:
I heard about an opening for a really sweet gig at Whole Foods.
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2011, 09:31:08 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 01, 2011, 09:14:53 AM
I heard about an opening for a really sweet gig at Whole Foods.

'Course, you do have to show up sober . . .
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2011, 11:52:22 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 01, 2011, 09:31:08 AM
'Course, you do have to show up sober . . .

It seems like they insist on it.  :-)
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Re: "Be grateful you've got a job..." (one_voice)
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2011, 12:44:18 PM »
Oh, you gotta go over and look at this thread.  Simply amazing.

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-31-10 05:59 PM
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11. it's alright to vent but
   
please name the company. 100 hours of labor a week is not something to just complain about. I'd blow em in to the state for not paying overtime, and again for not paying on time.

I hate to say it but I gotta call bullshit on this story. Unless of course the company is named. They can't track your home computer and this ain't facebook so go for it. It'll keep others out of a crappy situation

Uh-oh, someone called her out on the bullshit.

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Ferrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Fri Dec-31-10 06:09 PM
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16. Do you really think tracking a home computer is the only way
   
this could track back? Seriously?

And the stupidest woman on the Internetz chimes in.  Uh, Beth?  Yeah, pretty much.  Oh, and this is why we don't post bullshit rants online.

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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-31-10 06:34 PM
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22. I will not name the company...
   
like I said they have offices all along the west coast. It's not worth the risk.

Why would I lie about something like this? When he didn't get his check today, it really pissed me off so I came to DU to vent. Mostly because there was no one to call to find out why, what the hell kind of shit is that. He'll get it on Monday, and thankfully we can wait, but not everyone in his office can.

As for the OT my husband is salaried, and the states laws aren't easy to understand. But from what I've read, if you're salary there isn't anything you can do.

Why would you lie?  Sympathy, for one.  And non-exempt salaried employees can get paid for excess time worked--usually at straight-time rates.  If he's not, then it's time to find another job because his employer is abusing the shit out of the rules and you're too stupid to do anything about it.

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Electric Monk (1000+ posts)  Fri Dec-31-10 06:44 PM
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26. West coast, East coast, what's the difference?
   
You've said both now, fwiw.

OH, SNAP!!!  BUSTED!!!

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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-31-10 06:49 PM
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30. Oh shit...
   
Edited on Fri Dec-31-10 06:51 PM by one_voice
I live in Delaware...I meant to type East...it was a mistake.

see post 13.

Sure, you did.  Sure, you did.  West East, so close to the same keystrokes, right?

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Corey_Baker08 (1000+ posts)  Sat Jan-01-11 12:33 AM
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51. I Was Layed Off As A Security Officer in Dayton, Ohio-A Very Dangerous & Violent City- I Am $crewed!
   
Im a 21 year old college student majoring in Criminal Justic and I had a job that I actually liked when I was told that through no fault of my own the company had to lay off a majority of workers that have had less than 10 years, heck I wouldve been 11 ten yearsm ago. It doesn't seem fair, I was a Security Officer in Dayton, Ohio a city that is rampant with violent homicides, robberies, sexual assaults and every other crime you could think of. Yet I worked my ass off every night literally risking my life for a job that I felt would help prepare me to be a police officer which is my goal, my dream is to run for public office, yet I found that you have to have money to do that.

I understand the economy is horrible but I had been employee of the month before, I was respected by most, yet when it comes to layoffs seniority rules which I do agree with to an extent. I am truly screwed because of this, my car recently broke down and its $225 to get it fixed and I cant get it fixed without a paycheck, yet I have postetd my resume online and got several responses, unfortunately without a car I have not been able to get to the interviews... I just hope 2011 is a better year, Good riddance 2010!

It is not a happy new years for me and my family...I hope you and yours are truly having a wonderful New Year, and for those of the many of you who are in a position similar or worse than mine, just remember that things will get better, the storm will pass...and god help us if it don't!!!

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