Baby Dies while snowplow driver naps.

[thundley4]

Not exactly the thread title, but it's more truthful

proud2BlibKansan   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-30-10 08:07 AM
Original message
OMG a newborn baby died in NY when mom couldn't get to the hospital???
   
Just heard on Today Show. A mom gave birth in the lobby of her apartment building. It took 9 hours for the ambulance to get there. The baby died.

Next shot was Bloomberg telling reporters not to yell at him.

God help us if Bloomberg runs for president. What an incompetent arrogant asshole.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x92197


Instead of plowing the streets, this driver was caught snoozing Monday morning from 9:30 to at least 11 on 14th Avenue near 149th Street.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/taking_plower_nap_cQ3mKE9Dqptl6gVuk7ljSK#ixzz19cX7dPh4

The DUmmies want to blame Bloomberg, but they are only partly correct.
Sanitation Departments slow cleanup was a budget protest.

[Rebel]

Nite Owl  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-30-10 08:32 AM
Response to Original message

5. Are we seeing the face of 'small government'?

Someone needs to be held accountable and damned sure Bloomberg won't be stepping up.

No, you stupid f'n idiot. You're seeing the face of failed liberal UNION policies.

[Ballygrl]

Any mention of the Unions intentionally protesting with a work slowdown and allowing this to happen?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK

[Rebel]

Any mention of the Unions intentionally protesting with a work slowdown and allowing this to happen?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sanit_filthy_snow_slow_mo_qH57MZwC53QKOJlekSSDJK

Well, this guy did:

shadowrider  (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-30-10 08:56 AM

12. Who's to blame? Well, we could start here
   
These garbage men really stink.

Selfish Sanitation Department bosses from the snow-slammed outer boroughs ordered their drivers to snarl the blizzard cleanup to protest budget cuts -- a disastrous move that turned streets into a minefield for emergency-services vehicles, The Post has learned.

With a response from this jackass:

marmar  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)

Thu Dec-30-10 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #12

16. Or perhaps you could start with the budget cuts.   

So, it isn't the idiots that INTENTIONALLY did nothing, it's the budget cuts. In my world, if they cut out something from my job, and I protested by just staying home, I wouldn't have a job to worry about anymore because I'd be fired.

[Ballygrl]

shadowrider (1000+ posts)           Thu Dec-30-10 08:56 AM
Response to Original message
12. Who's to blame? Well, we could start here
   
These garbage men really stink.

Selfish Sanitation Department bosses from the snow-slammed outer boroughs ordered their drivers to snarl the blizzard cleanup to protest budget cuts -- a disastrous move that turned streets into a minefield for emergency-services vehicles, The Post has learned.

Bingo!

Just saw that Rebel.

[Karin]

I was wondering what the DU was going to say.  Here's this dipshit:

Cleita  (1000+ posts)        Thu Dec-30-10 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
31. This is what happens in Libertarian, Ayn Rand style paradises.
 The infrastructure of the commons crumbles and we aren't able to cope with unusual events like blizzards.

This event is another nail in the coffin of public employee unions.  There's just no place for the unaccountability that comes with unionization.  A lot of people are royally pissed off.  People, and an innocent baby, died.  The next president should undo what JFK did.  

Here's a comment grabbed at random from the NYDailyNews.

Typical liberal big-government is more focused on legislating your salt intake than on preparing for a weather emergency. Clearly there are far too many government union employees who simply failed the city and the people who pay their salaries. Union goons did nothing except enjoy their snow day off while people suffered.

PPS.  Torches and pitchforks over there...

put REAL AMERICANS back to work. (MINUS THE UNIONS!)

  Plus, Bloomberg's head on a platter. 

[USA4ME]

Once again the primitives are unable to place the blame where good and descent people know it belongs.  The unions did nothing but hurt the very people they hope will lend them support.  Citizens stuck in their homes because the streets aren't being cleared aren't saying "Solidarity with our fellow citizens who are union members."  They're saying, "Those lazy good-for-nothings took their frustrations out on us."

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[DefiantSix]

Once again the primitives are unable to place the blame where good and descent people know it belongs.  The unions did nothing but hurt the very people they hope will lend them support.  Citizens stuck in their homes because the streets aren't being cleared aren't saying "Solidarity with our fellow citizens who are union members."  They're saying, "Those lazy good-for-nothings took their frustrations out on us."

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I really am looking forward to the next Ronaldus Magnus; the one who will respond to this kind of shinannigan from public employee unions by firing the worthless asses of every clown that participates, and then making them compete with the rest of the open market to get their jobs back at a significant fraction of their former princely salaries.

[GOBUCKS]

Speaking of princely union salaries:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/68164552.html?page=all

[Karin]

Unbelievable, GOBUCKS.  At least it's not taxpayer dollars, but it does make it so the ticket prices are out of reach for a lot of people. 

Someone started another thread on this at the DUmp.  Everyone jumped with the same comment:

Bullshit right wing talking point!  This is only to denigrate the unions!

Say what you will, DUmmies, it's sparking a national conversation. 

[vesta111]

Speaking of princely union salaries:
http://www.northjersey.com/news/opinions/68164552.html?page=all

I have no idea what these workers make in NY-----I can tell you we in New Hampshire so far have no problems, Nasty old Yankees would never leave their people in harms way for a job of any kind.

This man my have worked a straight 30 hour shift and had to sleep or place the public in danger.   A 18 hour shift up here and further north is almost expected in brutal conditions, plows pull off the road and the drivers sleep 4-6 hours then hit the road.

These drivers have a set route and must not deviate from it, same as a bus driver the people employed do as they are told.

Now up here in a time of a bad storm, the plow and sanitation workers will talk to each other and make sure there is someone to go a route that will insure their family's safety.

But this is not a huge city or the unions so powerful as to make matters worse.

Only Union I know of with any power are the Dock Workers and all the branches from that.   They stay very low key except for a once in every 20 years time a drive by shooting of a Union Rep. home happens.

This NYC is the city with milions of storeys to be told.      This is small towns and city's, most everyone knows that local government can be voted out in a heart beat if any Tom Foolery were to be tried here.   We do have the same graft and corruption here but it is not easy to hide it, we all find out and know whats what.

[dandi]

The comments at the post are plenty brutal.

[zeitgeist]

Unbelievable, GOBUCKS.  At least it's not taxpayer dollars, but it does make it so the ticket prices are out of reach for a lot of people. 

Someone started another thread on this at the DUmp.  Everyone jumped with the same comment:

Say what you will, DUmmies, it's sparking a national conversation. 

Unions have over played their hands all across the country.  Public unions can only hold the tax payer hostage for so long before they find themselves summarily tossed out.  Incidents like this one will only serve to further galvanize an already pissed off populace.   When Reagan tossed the Air Craft Controllers out it was to a collective cheer from the public because Americans are loath to be held hostage whether to Barbary Pirates or knuckle dragging union thugs.

[zeitgeist]

I have no idea what these workers make in NY-----I can tell you we in New Hampshire so far have no problems, Nasty old Yankees would never leave their people in harms way for a job of any kind.

This man my have worked a straight 30 hour shift and had to sleep or place the public in danger.   A 18 hour shift up here and further north is almost expected in brutal conditions, plows pull off the road and the drivers sleep 4-6 hours then hit the road.

These drivers have a set route and must not deviate from it, same as a bus driver the people employed do as they are told.

Now up here in a time of a bad storm, the plow and sanitation workers will talk to each other and make sure there is someone to go a route that will insure their family's safety.

But this is not a huge city or the unions so powerful as to make matters worse.

Only Union I know of with any power are the Dock Workers and all the branches from that.   They stay very low key except for a once in every 20 years time a drive by shooting of a Union Rep. home happens.

This NYC is the city with millions of stores to be told.      This is small towns and city's, most everyone knows that local government can be voted out in a heart beat if any Tom Foolery were to be tried here.   We do have the same graft and corruption here but it is not easy to hide it, we all find out and know whats what.

I guess you are good with the cop collecting a 67K disability pension while serving as the new County Sheriff (for at least another 67K plus benefits btw....)  And don't make me do the math for you when I tell you that the 67k is 2/3 his salary when he was "disabled".  That is just one of the stories in the naked city.  There are plenty more.  How about the Police Chief who went left P_town north recently? Yup there are a million stories in the naked city.  Which reminds me, I am sitting here totally naked under my clothes as I type this. 

[true_blood]

ProgressiveProfessor  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)    Thu Dec-30-10 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. It is the small events like you did that describe us a people
I remember when we last lived in snow country the neighbors with snow equipment would clear the sidewalks/driveways for those who did not. It was just what was done.

Wrong Progressive piece of garbage. It's what describes the union bosses and how they are slowly choking America. The private sector makes budget cuts and pay cuts. Time for you to face reality as well and suck it up.
God, I hope someone goes to jail for the death of that baby.

[zeitgeist]

Wrong Progressive piece of garbage. It's what describes the union bosses and how they are slowly choking America. The private sector makes budget cuts and pay cuts. Time for you to face reality as well and suck it up.
God, I hope someone goes to jail for the death of that baby.

I doubt they would jail the union thugs.  But a good old fashioned shunning of union members by respectable folk is another matter.  Then too, a civil law suit might also knock some wind out of the union's sail.  A nice long trial will lots of press.  <never mind ~never happen>

[NHSparky]

I have no idea what these workers make in NY-----I can tell you we in New Hampshire so far have no problems, Nasty old Yankees would never leave their people in harms way for a job of any kind.

This man my have worked a straight 30 hour shift and had to sleep or place the public in danger.   A 18 hour shift up here and further north is almost expected in brutal conditions, plows pull off the road and the drivers sleep 4-6 hours then hit the road.

These drivers have a set route and must not deviate from it, same as a bus driver the people employed do as they are told.

Now up here in a time of a bad storm, the plow and sanitation workers will talk to each other and make sure there is someone to go a route that will insure their family's safety.

But this is not a huge city or the unions so powerful as to make matters worse.

Only Union I know of with any power are the Dock Workers and all the branches from that.   They stay very low key except for a once in every 20 years time a drive by shooting of a Union Rep. home happens.

This NYC is the city with milions of storeys to be told.      This is small towns and city's, most everyone knows that local government can be voted out in a heart beat if any Tom Foolery were to be tried here.   We do have the same graft and corruption here but it is not easy to hide it, we all find out and know whats what.

They have these things (even here in NH) called HOTELS.  They sleep there.  Most places/utilities have fatigue rules which state these guys MUST be given so many hours of down time in a given period.

I've been among them.  Utility crews even in California during the earthquakes or windstorms can crash out at the service centers (Oh, and they still get paid for it since they never went home...)

And yes, vesta--zeit is right.  The pensions some of these folks up here are getting are what one might consider a bit "excessive", no?

[Ballygrl]

They should lose their jobs and their pensions, be arrested and go to trial.

[GOBUCKS]

They should lose their jobs and their pensions, be arrested and go to trial.

They should all be perp walked, sent to The Hague, and then hanged. At least.
Snowplow sleeping, blink, blink, blink, blink.

[true_blood]

They should lose their jobs and their pensions, be arrested and go to trial.

YUP!
A baby dies because of their "shut down". They work for the people. And on that day, they failed the people. On purpose.

[GOBUCKS]

YUP!
A baby dies because of their "shut down". They work for the people. And on that day, they failed the people. On purpose.

In the history of snow, there has never been a big snowstorm in a big blue city without the exact same result. The only difference is that now we have Drudge.

[DefiantSix]

In the history of snow, there has never been a big snowstorm in a big blue city without the exact same result. The only difference is that now we have Drudge.

There's a difference between being overloaded with work and "staging a slowdown" in order to make a political point.  These assholes did the latter, and need to see consequences for their selfishness.

[Airwolf]

We can only hope that their union reps are able to talk God out of his his judgement for thoes easshats that left the people to the weather while they had their slowdown. I wouldn't give it a second thought of which level of Hell they were going to.

[jukin]

You travel the world and NYNY is always called the small government city.

[debk]

Forbes on Fox is discussing this issue right now on FoxNews.