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For-Profit Colleges Slump Converges With Debtors
« on: December 29, 2010, 04:28:33 PM »
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marmar   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 04:15 PM
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For-Profit Colleges Slump Converges With Debtors   
   
Dec. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Ronnie Franklin borrowed to pay his tuition at a for-profit college that advertised its success in preparing graduates for better jobs. That decision haunts him.

Frustrated that his degree didn’t lead to work in electronics, Franklin -- now a $12-an-hour housepainter -- decided to go to a community college this year. He can’t qualify for a federal grant that would have paid the cost because he defaulted on $20,000 of his earlier U.S. student loans.

Debt from a for-profit college education also shadows Christina Bergschneider and Michael DiGiacomo. Landlords rejected Bergschneider’s apartment applications more than 20 times because of her unpaid student loans. DiGiacomo, who works in a copy shop, forfeits 15 percent of his after-tax income when the U.S. Education Department garnishees his paycheck to collect on $30,000 in federal loans for two different for-profits.

Students seeking to move up in life by getting a degree from a for-profit college are being trapped in a growing underclass of education debtors. Under U.S. law, their loan obligations can rarely be discharged in bankruptcy, making them more onerous than credit-card debt or subprime mortgages taken out before the housing bubble burst. Along with blocking students from further education and access to housing, defaults can subject them to government confiscation of tax refunds and Social Security payments, as well as paychecks. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aa...
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KansDem   (1000+ posts)           Wed Dec-29-10 04:24 PM
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2. "Under U.S. law, their loan obligations can rarely be discharged in bankruptcy"
   
I often wonder why this is. If you can discharge credit card debt and mortgages in bankruptcy, why not student loans?

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Hannah Bell   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 04:25 PM
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4. because that would spoil the ruling class plan to entangle the bottom 50% in debt &
   
send them off to debtors prisons for use as slave labor.

No, Hannah who needs a ball-gag Bell.  The reason is simple. The Fed backs up most student loans, and they will get their money from you.

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aikoaiko   (1000+ posts)           Wed Dec-29-10 05:16 PM
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7. Because a lot of students would graduate, hang out at the their parents house unemployed, and then .
   

...file for bankruptcy.

DUmmies do that now, and just hide from the creditors.

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Hannah Bell   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 05:20 PM
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8. yes, that must be it.

You forgot the sarcasm smiley, twit.

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Hannah Bell   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 04:24 PM
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3. The wonderful results of the free market in education. The poor get useless degrees and endless
   
debt, for which they can now be imprisoned.

ah, brave new world that has such wonders in it.

Whose fault is it that students are getting useless degrees?  The students?

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Re: For-Profit Colleges Slump Converges With Debtors
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 05:23:43 PM »
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Hannah Bell   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 04:25 PM
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4. because that would spoil the ruling class plan to entangle the bottom 50% in debt &
   
send them off to debtors prisons for use as slave labor.

The guy chose a field that was not hiring.

How is that anybody's fault. It isn't even his fault. FFS he studied electronics not Siberian Underwater Basket Weaving. Had electronics firms been starved for labor the guy would be rolling in money and Hannah would be painting a target on his back.
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Re: For-Profit Colleges Slump Converges With Debtors
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 05:29:58 PM »
The guy chose a field that was not hiring.

How is that anybody's fault. It isn't even his fault. FFS he studied electronics not Siberian Underwater Basket Weaving. Had electronics firms been starved for labor the guy would be rolling in money and Hannah would be painting a target on his back.

Unfortunately for him, his industry is just one of many that is being starved by government regulation and union bullshit.  If he wanted to work in the electronics field in the modern United States, about the only fields still hiring here are electrical engineers.  If he wanted to go to work building circuit boards and shit, he needs to go to India, or Singapore or Bangladesh or someplace that isn't choking in red tape.
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Re: For-Profit Colleges Slump Converges With Debtors
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 06:21:02 PM »
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Hannah Bell   (1000+ posts)             Wed Dec-29-10 04:24 PM
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3. The wonderful results of the free market in education. The poor get useless degrees and endless debt, for which they can now be imprisoned.
ah, brave new world that has such wonders in it.
You useless scrunt. So, the lenders put a gun to their head to take out a school loan so they can better their education? Is that how that works? ::) :whatever:
In other words, your advocating free schooling, correct? How does that work Hannah Bell?