DUmmies Discuss The Kootch

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmies are concerned that The Kootch may end up with no district after completely repuke-controlled redistricting process in Ohio. With Grayson's defeat, the DUmp is facing a dwindling number of certifiable lunatics in the House, and The Kootch, who once reported a close encounter with a UFO while spending the evening with Shirley MacLaine, is the leader of the House lunatic caucus. That automatically qualifies him as a DUmp icon.

DeadEyeDyck (813 posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:08 PM
Original message
It seems that Dennis Kucinich may lose without losing
He wins the election but loses his seat. How is that? The 2010 Census.

One of Congress' highest-profile progressive voices is at risk of losing his House seat following the Census Bureau's announcement of changes to House seat apportionment.

He will be Gerry-Mandered out!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x84914

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. See what fascism looks like.

Bumblebee (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-28-10 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. A random thought indeed. It's called losing elections. If Dems won more
state legislatures and governorships, they would have done the same. Let's not hyperventilate. 

   

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. you presume the arguement is about both sides doing the same thing.
I have said many times redistricting should not be about political parties, it would be wrong if either side did it, and the problems with much of the retentions in congress for the sake of retention not for concepts of government.

I have posted a very easy way for redistricting to be outside of economics or politics.

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:16 PM
Response to Original message
4. The Right-wing plans long term for our demise and plays to win
they gave up 2006 and probably 2008 JUST to get the advantage of the census. THAT is why the Booshe election in 2000 was SO important to them, and why they gerrymandered the House then.

Think Tom DeLay back then, and look up what happened after that election to Texas......

 

BrklynLiberal  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. The repukes are in full control of all this..They know full well where the power sources are. 

   

DeadEyeDyck (813 posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #14
20. Look, the writing is on the wall the RePugs have the numbers and are going to run rip-shaw with them. They will over-take the courts and the state governments. They will use power to gain power. And the Corporations will follow.

   
Running rip-shaw? I guess vestanumbers does post at the DUmp after all. Calling General Anastasia!

rucky  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:17 PM
Response to Original message
5. Marcy Kaptur could be in trouble, too. That would doubly suck

This DUmmy is right. Marcy Kaptur does indeed doubly suck.

BeFree  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. Thanks
So this is our chance to get more representation? Or we lose Kucinich?

I have been proposing an increase in reps for years now, but no one else seems to think it a good idea. Ah well, so we lose the best? 

 

jotsy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
11. Just when you think things can't get much suckier.
A nasty blow should it play out that way. First Grayson, now this?

Heavy Sigh.

   

upi402  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
13. They got Feingold and they'll get him
It's so screwed up now. SE Asia is far less corrupt.

 

Uh-oh. Here comes a Lousy Freeper Troll,  or at least a DLCer:

cottonseed (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-28-10 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
19. Well, there goes the author of 1 actual law and a great speaker against all Democratic legislation.
The nation mourns.

Ken Burch  (1000+ posts)        Wed Dec-29-10 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #19
27. That is a LIE!
Dennis did not speak out against ALL Democratic legislation. Only a handful of bad, non-progressive bills. A Democratic Congress should never have passed any non-progressive bills.

No one to Dennis' right would be worth having in his place. Centrists care only about the rich.

If The Kootch were a tinhorn communist dictator, DUmmy Ken Burch would be his version of poor, stupid Beth Ferrari.

apocalypsehow (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-28-10 10:21 PM
Response to Original message
21. Now he can devote his full time to his first love: making quixotic presidential runs.
I don't the see the problem. 

Hopefully, Cleveland's next congressional Democratic representative will devote more time to his/her district, and pay more attention to their constituents.   

 

The DUmp's favorite refrain whenever a far left wacko loses:

WinkyDink  (1000+ posts)      Tue Dec-28-10 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. It was the voters' ignorance that made his Presidential runs fail, not the attempts.

   
 

apocalypsehow (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-29-10 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #25
30. "Blame the voters" is not a real winning strategy in a democracy, FYI. But that attitude sums up
precisely why Dennis never climbed much above 3% in the tallied vote: smug condescension never works very well as a campaign strategy. Doesn't do much as a reply on a message board, come to mention it.

But it sums up the attitude the vast majority of Democratic primary voters perceived was on display: "vote for us, or you're all a bunch of ignorant rubes!!! 
Considering that, and on reflection, it's a wonder the candidate from Cleveland even managed to scratch his way up to the 3% line of minimum respectability in the primary vote. It truly is. 

DUmmy Ken Burch has big plans for The Kootch:

Ken Burch  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 11:59 PM
Response to Original message
26. If Dennis' seat is taken away, he should run for the Ohio governorship in 2012
If anyone could start a "People's Army"-type revolt in that state against what the Babbitt-Industrial complex is going to do to the workers and the poor, it'd be Dennis.

It's damn certain that Strickland should never run again after the ass-kicking he got this year. Democrats should NEVER nominate a DLC'er like him again.

   

apocalypsehow (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-29-10 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #26
31. Yeah, right: Dennis would sweep...downtown Cleveland. And there's another problem...
Better think about amending Ohio's state constitution before trying to stage a run in 2012: the next gubernatorial contest in the Buckeye state is not scheduled to take place until November of 2014.

A typical fascist response.

 

[Evil_Conservative]

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:16 PM
Response to Original message
4. The Right-wing plans long term for our demise and plays to win
they gave up 2006 and probably 2008 JUST to get the advantage of the census. THAT is why the Booshe election in 2000 was SO important to them, and why they gerrymandered the House then.

Think Tom DeLay back then, and look up what happened after that election to Texas......

 

[Carl]

DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:16 PM
Response to Original message
4. The Right-wing plans long term for our demise and plays to win
they gave up 2006 and probably 2008 JUST to get the advantage of the census. THAT is why the Booshe election in 2000 was SO important to them, and why they gerrymandered the House then.

Think Tom DeLay back then, and look up what happened after that election to Texas......

So we intentionally lost two elections knowing full well dems would screw up so badly that we would get a House landslide victory in 2010.
Doesn`t say much for your ilk does it?

1/1/2000-12/31/2000...the President was Clinton,how did the election of President Bush have any impact on the census?

Honestly these folks write anything that pops into their heads at a given second and then forget they wrote it in the next.

[Karin]

"Going to run rip-shaw.."  and they made fun of Bush.

[Rebel]

RandomThoughts  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. you presume the arguement is about both sides doing the same thing.
I have said many times redistricting should not be about political parties, it would be wrong if either side did it, and the problems with much of the retentions in congress for the sake of retention not for concepts of government.

I have posted a very easy way for redistricting to be outside of economics or politics.

Wrong. Charles Walker, Former Democratic GA Senate Majority Leader...and current FELON at Estill's Federal Penitentiary, gerrymandered a district from Augusta to Savannah to include both inner cities. How'd he do this without the rural areas in between? The POS essentially drew a red line straight down a highway going to Savannah in the rural areas, picking up maybe 50 people in between.

Hypocrisy, thy name is the DUmp. 

[JohnnyReb]

Wrong. Charles Walker, Former Democratic GA Senate Majority Leader...and current FELON at Estill's Federal Penitentiary, gerrymandered a district from Augusta to Savannah to include both inner cities. How'd he do this without the rural areas in between? The POS essentially drew a red line straight down a highway going to Savannah in the rural areas, picking up maybe 50 people in between.

Hypocrisy, thy name is the DUmp. 

....and Mel Watts, N.C......district is at least 200 miles long and only a few feet wide in places.

[Rebel]

....and Mel Watts, N.C......district is at least 200 miles long and only a few feet wide in places.

Well, thankfully, Walker's criminal ass was taken to court by the Georgia Republicans.

[Ballygrl]

I think it's funny as heck if they do away with his seat.

BTW, are they just imagining that this will happen? or has Ohio seriously been talking about this?

[JohnnyReb]

All I got to say about that is..........

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.......HAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Ralph Wiggum]

upi402  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
13. They got Feingold and they'll get him
It's so screwed up now. SE Asia is far less corrupt.

Um, I need an explanation here DUmmy.  How did we "get" Feingold by gerry-mandering a congressional district?  Did we run "rip-shawed(sic)" over him?  He was a U.S. Senator and he LOST an election in Wisconsin.

[Rebel]

Um, I need an explanation here DUmmy.  How did we "get" Feingold by gerry-mandering a congressional district?  Did we run "rip-shawed(sic)" over him?  He was a U.S. Senator and he LOST an election in Wisconsin.

You can't reason with a bunch of idiots that think Venezuela's election was honest, but ours was rigged.

[USA4ME]

DainBramaged

The Right-wing plans long term for our demise and plays to win

they gave up 2006 and probably 2008 JUST to get the advantage of the census.

And the most intelligent people on the planet Earth didn't realize this and put a stop to it at the time?  How could this have gotten past them without them even noticing?

OK primitive, seeing that you believe yourself to be so intelligent, what are we doing right now and what do we have planned for the future in order to defeat "progressives?"  And not just a general answer, be specific with names, dates, and places.  Com'n smart guy, you can do it.

 

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[GOBUCKS]

BTW, are they just imagining that this will happen? or has Ohio seriously been talking about this?

It's very possible. Ohio loses two seats, so it's likely they will be seats currently held by DUmmies. The ones most likely in the crosshairs are The Kootch and Marcie Kaptur (who is as far left as The Kootch, without his mental impairment). Kaptur's district may be easier to redesign into a repuke seat, though she's been in the house forever. For The Kootch, his district could be combined with another democrat district, forcing him to run against a black incumbent democrat. That would be bad for The Kootch in his urban Cleveland stronghold. It's hard to see how they can avoid making a democrat district in Cleveland, but they can make it near impossible for The Kootch or anyone else to win while encased in white skin. Black racism remains the only sure bet in politics. Of course, they'll have the option of redrawing the entire state map. Repugs will have free rein, controlling the Statehouse and the governorship.

[true_blood]

jotsy  (1000+ posts)        Tue Dec-28-10 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
11. Just when you think things can't get much suckier. A nasty blow should it play out that way. First Grayson, now this?
Heavy Sigh.