We may be approaching a legal meltdown.

[Freeper]

Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Dec-28-10 08:27 PM
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We may be approaching a legal meltdown.
   
By that, I mean simply that we may soon reach the point where the "rule of law" is totally abandoned and ignored.

We have, within the last several years, looked the other way while elections were stolen and illegal wars of choice were pursued in our names. We tortured some of our prisoners and out-sourced the torture of others. We detained hundreds of prisoners---some of them US citizens---without even charging them or allowing legal counsel.

We continue to ignore the crimes of the Bush administration and we are silent when some of them are continued by the Obama administration.

Political criminals whose offenses resulted in tens of thousands of deaths write op-eds and sell their books while some poor bastard caught with a baggie of home-grown marijuana does time in prison.

The same "legal system" that takes your house away after your job was out-sourced and you fell behind in payments also protects the bankers who sold your mortgage for an obscene profit---several times.

And, people who have never stolen a thing in their life are seeing billionaires steal tens of millions from all of us and use part of the swag to buy more Congressman. And, some are starting to wonder if their honesty is foolish.

We may soon see street scenes here similar to the ones now playing out in Britain and France and Belgium. Law-abiding citizens in these countries are reacting with outrage as the governments insist that they pay the tab for the excesses of others.

"The Law" is either seen as applying to everyone or it is seen as irrelevant. If how the law is applied depends upon who violates its terms, can anarchy be far behind? And, who, do we think will step forward to fill the power vacuum?

I wonder: will they be flying one of those cute little yellow flags with the coiled worm on it?

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Dec-28-10 08:38 PM
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4. I see this in our future too if things continue the way they are
   
I think the Federal Government will probably fail, leaving each State to do what it can for its citizens. The changes may be as profound as the Industrial Revolution's. There's no telling what could happen.

Hey that sort of sounds how this country started off. You know the states being in control of themselves.

Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Dec-28-10 08:40 PM
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5. Foe twenty years I have been telling people that I see a revoluton coming
   
It would not surprise me to see a lot of blood in the streets
Blood of all classes, if that happens you will see military on every street corner.
The US is already building urban assault vehicles.

The military may step in and declare that they are taking over government until things straighten out.
Blackwater coming to a corner near you.

marshall law. 

[Evil_Conservative]

Didn't I just read a thread about some "study" done that says conservatives are fearful?  Because this thread, right here from the DU, sounds like THEY are scared.

[Freeper]

Didn't I just read a thread about some "study" done that says conservatives are fearful?  Because this thread, right here from the DU, sounds like THEY are scared.

I thought the same thing as I was reading the thread at DUmmyland.

[Thor]

and the more 0bama  encroaches on our liberties, the more rebellious we're going to get. Ever since Bush 41, the Government as done nothing but make laws and criminals. Things that used to be misdemeanors are now felonies in many states. It makes me wonder what their goal is?? Had we not a revolving door in our Justice system, penalties were in proportion to the crime, and sentences were fully served, we wouldn't be in this mess. For crying out loud, what American in their right mind would REQUIRE someone to buy something they don't want and then punish them for not buying that item?? (That's just one example)

[Freeper]

and the more 0bama  encroaches on our liberties, the more rebellious we're going to get. Ever since Bush 41, the Government as done nothing but make laws and criminals. Things that used to be misdemeanors are now felonies in many states. It makes me wonder what their goal is?? Had we not a revolving door in our Justice system, penalties were in proportion to the crime, and sentences were fully served, we wouldn't be in this mess. For crying out loud, what American in their right mind would REQUIRE someone to buy something they don't want and then punish them for not buying that item?? (That's just one example)

The dems drafted the bill so that tells us they were people not in their right mind.
Besides this isn't the first time we have been required to buy something. We have been forced to buy into SS for years the only difference is, it is taken out of our checks before we see a dime.
I wouldn't be surprised if the dems in the future will reconfigure it and have employers force us to sign up for health insurance.

[Carl]

A simple solution for your angst DUmbass.

A few of societies most demented and worthless individuals saying elections were stolen,wars were illegal and President Bush committed crimes on a message board that has a home for no planer truthers does not make it so.

Once you accept that simple fact life becomes much clearer.

[BlueStateSaint]

A simple solution for your angst DUmbass.

A few of societies most demented and worthless individuals saying elections were stolen,wars were illegal and President Bush committed crimes on a message board that has a home for no planer truthers does not make it so.

Once you accept that simple fact life becomes much clearer.

Great one, neighbor.  H5 given.  I bolded it, and colored it, just so that lurking DUmb****s could read it better.  Whether they'll be able to comprehend it is another matter.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:27 AM
Original message
We may be approaching a legal meltdown.
   
By that, I mean simply that we may soon reach the point where the "rule of law" is totally abandoned and ignored.

We have, within the last several years, looked the other way while elections were stolen and illegal wars of choice were pursued in our names. We tortured some of our prisoners and out-sourced the torture of others. We detained hundreds of prisoners---some of them US citizens---without even charging them or allowing legal counsel.

We continue to ignore the crimes of the Bush administration and we are silent when some of them are continued by the Obama administration.

Political criminals whose offenses resulted in tens of thousands of deaths write op-eds and sell their books while some poor bastard caught with a baggie of home-grown marijuana does time in prison.

The same "legal system" that takes your house away after your job was out-sourced and you fell behind in payments also protects the bankers who sold your mortgage for an obscene profit---several times.

And, people who have never stolen a thing in their life are seeing billionaires steal tens of millions from all of us and use part of the swag to buy more Congressman. And, some are starting to wonder if their honesty is foolish.

We may soon see street scenes here similar to the ones now playing out in Britain and France and Belgium. Law-abiding citizens in these countries are reacting with outrage as the governments insist that they pay the tab for the excesses of others.

"The Law" is either seen as applying to everyone or it is seen as irrelevant. If how the law is applied depends upon who violates its terms, can anarchy be far behind? And, who, do we think will step forward to fill the power vacuum?

I wonder: will they be flying one of those cute little yellow flags with the coiled worm on it?

After which follows 23 posts of tooth-gnashing histrionics and not 1 ******* falsifiable citation.

Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:33 AM
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2. When The Law loses legitimacy anarchy breaks out.

Like the New Black Panthers voter intimidation conviction and the abrogation of rights for GM lien holders?

RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:36 AM
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3. Actually 'rule of law'
   
Has been gone for awhile, trying to reestablish concept and spirit of law with compassion and mercy.

hence why it has been many years of not accepting injustice.

In theory the only state of existence that will eventual exist is the state you accept as ok.

So when everything is ****ed-up it's really your fault.

lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:38 AM
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4. I see this in our future too if things continue the way they are
   
I think the Federal Government will probably fail, leaving each State to do what it can for its citizens. The changes may be as profound as the Industrial Revolution's. There's no telling what could happen.

****ing TEA Party hack!

Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:40 AM
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5. For twenty years I have been telling people that I see a revoluton coming
   
It would not surprise me to see a lot of blood in the streets
Blood of all classes, if that happens you will see military on every street corner.
The US is already building urban assault vehicles.

The military may step in and declare that they are taking over government until things straighten out.
Blackwater coming to a corner near you.

gawd, I wish that ***** would come back here.

RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:41 AM
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6. I wonder about this too - what good sound and fair logic would indicate is often
   
not done and the opposite prevails putting many defenseless at a severe disadvantage. I was watching police proud of busting up some pot users, meanwhile real crime, murders, rapes, drive by shootings go on and on in the city along with the bankster shenanigans.

Banksters (robbers) go free and are rewarded for what I consider criminal behavior against the majority of citizens.

They go after the easy targets and let the real crooks destroying American for the majority go free and reward them handsomely as business is business. And the crimes of the previous administration are just pushed into the past with no action.

And congress is for sale to the highest bidder.

I can't see how any of this adds up even remotely to what one would call a healthy country.

How come whenever they bitch about the banksters the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT's role is down played as secondary and passive?

pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-29-10 01:44 AM
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8. K&R
   
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. Millions unemployed, underemployed or forced into early "retirement". That's a lot of people with no prospects and nothing to think about but how ****ed they are and who did it to them.

Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!

Ah! **** it!

I'm getting dumber for reading the ****ing thing.

Pusillanimous puddles of whore drippings.

Here's the link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x84622

[JohnnyReb]

Hey, my old F-350 4-door dually ought to make a nice urban assault vehicle....now where can I get me some .50 cal. machine guns?

[jukin]

Hey, my old F-350 4-door dually ought to make a nice urban assault vehicle....now where can I get me some .50 cal. machine guns?

UTAH.

[true_blood]

DUmmies are just looking and itching for anarchy in this Country.
Little be it known to them that the Patriots of this Country will defend it to their death.

[Randy]

DUmmies are just looking and itching for anarchy in this Country.
Little be it known to them that the Patriots of this Country will defend it to their death.

I was thinking along those lines when DUmmie said there'll be blood in the streets.

I have a job.
I have a house.
I have food.
More importantly I have the means to defend them all.
I'm wondering just whos blood he's seeing?

 

[true_blood]

I was thinking along those lines when DUmmie said there'll be blood in the streets.

I have a job.
I have a house.
I have food.
More importantly I have the means to defend them all.
I'm wondering just whos blood he's seeing?
 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Aside from their examples being Lib-mythos bullshit, the fact of Presidents pissing all over the Constitution and even openly defying Supreme Court decisions against them is not new, look at Andy Jackson and the Cherokees or FDR and the Japanese-Americans.  Cough*Democrats*cough.

[JohnnyReb]

Aside from their examples being Lib-mythos bullshit, the fact of Presidents pissing all over the Constitution and even openly defying Supreme Court decisions against them is not new, look at Andy Jackson and the Cherokees or FDR and the Japanese-Americans.  Cough*Democrats*cough.

You should really do something about that cough.....











....like get a list of voter names from the graveyard....