I'm starting to like this fellow, one-eyed fatman

[vesta111]

Might I add that they steal through driving without a license and/or insurance.  Decent folks have to pay for the damages illegals cause on our roadways, monetarily or with their very lives.  The illegal causing the damage or loss of life gets escorted across the border only to walk back across in a few hours and begin the process all over again.

Massachusetts a few years ago.

Ice raided a factory and held 80% of the work force as being illegal.   While they deported, perhaps 10-20 workers  but, the other 150 other illegals, woman were not.     
-------why not------

A bit of a problem here, the woman had brought a few of their children here as illegals and then had given birth to a few more that are American citizens.     To deport the woman and their illegal children meant they had to either leave behind their American born Children or get their native country to accept their American born kids.

Just another reason that Anchor babies needs to be rescinded. 

  At no time did the government insist that the Males take back home their illegal children.  This is a huge mess that really needs sorting out and who cares what the leaders of peoples country's say or cry about human rights. ------We need rights too, also and by gosh we need to get some balls to tell off the world that ----We're not going to take it anymore.
 Find an illegal from some country and charge them under the same laws their own countries hold for the same offence.

[Boudicca]

Beth thinks that illegals bolster SS with billions and billions and billions of dollars?  From what I've seen, a lot of these people work under the table.  I guess I'm naive about this stuff, as I've never snuck around a foreign country illegally, and my first husband did it all the legal way.  Don't you have to have valid SS numbers and everything above board to contribute all these zillions of dollars? 

Oh, some of them have valid SS numbers, numbers they stole from someone else!
Down here near the border, we get innocent civilians killed strictly due to illegal activity.

http://www.willcoxrangenews.com/articles/2004/10/20/news/news3.txt

Every single solitary week, year in and year out for the seven plus years I've been living in Sierra Vista, our local paper is full of incidents involving illegal activity.  The police just busted a drug smuggling op out of Hereford (basically a suburb of SV).  Yeah, all these people are coming here to improve our country.

[jukin]

In the last decade kalifornia has closed more than ten hospitals because they went bankrupt servicing the illegal aliens in the ER. That's a big help to actual citizens.

The bottom line is an illegal alien may add a dollar to the economy they take out 5 dollars.

[Randy]

WTF?  I thought NAFTA made it easier to import things from Mexico, so the jobs went there.  Now Stooooopid Beth is telling us that the farmers in Mexico had their jobs outsourced?

Damn those Chinese!

 

[AllosaursRus]

This is a big fat lie that has been told so many times by the pro legal activists that the DUmmies accept it as true.  

California is flat broke and is estimating a 24-26 Billion$$ deficit this year.  It has been estimated that illegals are taking 12 billion $ a year in services from the State and local agencies. Then there are the scores of American workers (construction or restrauant workers as an example) who have been displaced by dirt cheap illegal labor.  

So how in the **** does our economy depend on illegal aliens?  illegals are killing our economy, not supporting it.

Then, instead of paying their own way here, they still use the ERs, Food Stamp program and get Welfare hand-outs, all the while sending their cash back to Mexico's economy!

Just how the hell that contributes to our economy, only a DUmbass knows!

If it were remotely true, wouldn't Kalifornica be rollin' in dough????

[true_blood]

Being illegally in the country is straight out stealing.
They steal jobs.
They steal education.
They steal scarce social services.
They steal scarce medical services.
They steal our tax dollars.
BTW at 10% unemployment, the illegals are not keeping our economy going.  They are keeping our economy in the crapper.

Bingo.
H5 given. (I'm all for immigrants. My mom is an immigrant from Poland and is legal. My dad's parents were immigrants off the boat from Sicily.)
But, when you come here illegally, demand your free "entitlements" and don't pay your fair share, YOU GO!

[thundley4]

Then, instead of paying their own way here, they still use the ERs, Food Stamp program and get Welfare hand-outs, all the while sending their cash back to Mexico's economy!

Just how the hell that contributes to our economy, only a DUmbass knows!

If it were remotely true, wouldn't Kalifornica be rollin' in dough????

Imagine how much worse the Mexican economy would be without millions of dollars flowing there from the illegals.

[Chris_]

Imagine how much worse the Mexican economy would be without millions of dollars flowing there from the illegals.

More like 'billions'.  I think legall and illegal workers transfer $20B across the border annually.

[Boudicca]

Bingo.
H5 given. (I'm all for immigrants. My mom is an immigrant from Poland and is legal. My dad's parents were immigrants off the boat from Sicily.)
But, when you come here illegally, demand your free "entitlements" and don't pay your fair share, YOU GO!

You forgot to add, TO HELL at the end of your post.
Kudos to your Mom and grandparents for legally immigrating.  My mom's parents immigrated legally from Hungary in the 1920's (separately, they met and married in Chicago).  By the 1930 census my grandpa is living with his dad and some relatives and HAS A JOB.  My grandmother's mom had immigrated because she already had a job, as a cook at the Hungarian embassy in Cleveland.


My grandma and her mom said they way they learned English was to go to the movies.  I don't know how grandpa learned, but he spoke excellent English by the time I was born.  No welfare, they all had to have a relative or other person vouching for them and got screened at Ellis Island for fleas (heh, well, health problems).  What a contrast to the wankers wading across the Rio Grande today, or slinking through the AZ desert.  And I'm supposed to feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for American citizens and even moreso for LEGAL immigrants going through the hoops of fire to qualify for citizenship.

[true_blood]

You forgot to add, TO HELL at the end of your post.
Kudos to your Mom and grandparents for legally immigrating.  My mom's parents immigrated legally from Hungary in the 1920's (separately, they met and married in Chicago).  By the 1930 census my grandpa is living with his dad and some relatives and HAS A JOB.  My grandmother's mom had immigrated because she already had a job, as a cook at the Hungarian embassy in Cleveland.
My grandma and her mom said they way they learned English was to go to the movies.  I don't know how grandpa learned, but he spoke excellent English by the time I was born.  No welfare, they all had to have a relative or other person vouching for them and got screened at Ellis Island for fleas (heh, well, health problems).  What a contrast to the wankers wading across the Rio Grande today, or slinking through the AZ desert.  And I'm supposed to feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for American citizens and even moreso for LEGAL immigrants going through the hoops of fire to qualify for citizenship.

You said it Boudicca.
My mom goes nuts over ILLEGAL immigration and how the imposter wants to give the illegals amnesty.