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Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« on: December 16, 2010, 09:45:25 PM »
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robcon (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 09:57 AM
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Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101214/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/l...


Chavez and Chavezistas are natural dictators. His supporters don't want democracy in Venezuela, IMO
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 09:59 AM
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1. "His supporters don't want democracy in Venezuela"
   
And I suppose you believe his opponents do.
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First sane post.

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notesdev (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:07 AM
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3. if you wanted democracy...
   
... would you support a guy who wants to rule by decree?
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Second sane post.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:07 AM
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2. When was the last time a dictator asked for anything.
   
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Third sane sane post.

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Creative (532 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 03:41 PM
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4. "...in February 1933 and Hitler asks for emergency powers to catch those responsible."
   
Hitler was swept to power with 44 percent of the vote and coerced the remaining minor parties to give him the two-thirds majority for his Enabling Act which gave him the right to rule by decree...





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Historial accuracy at the DUmp? How rare.

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bitchkitty (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:13 PM
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7. LMAO - you're not really "Creative" are you?
   
Even posting a picture of Hitler to illustrate your point.

They really should train you guys better!
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And here come the denials!

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:14 PM
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8. LMAO
   
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15. LOL That's the earliest in a thread I've ever seen a Chavez/Hitler fail
   
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:24 PM
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11. It's the same as granting emergency powers in the wake of any national disaster
   
in other democracies. He must still work within the framework of the Constitution, and is still held accountable to the Judiciary and the National Assembly. Both these bodies have the right to call a halt to anything he might do if they think it's not constitutional.

He's done it before and didn't cross the line, and this is an emergency for Venezuela.
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How F**ing stupid can you be? He jails dissenters and shuts down news organizations who do not spew his propaganda.

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-16-10 10:44 PM
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19. Follow the money.
   
As the result of all transactions, does the money move up the chain or down the chain? So far as I can tell people of Venezuela are better off from Chavez.

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Chavez has instituted food, fuel and electricity rationing. The Venezuelan economy is in the toilet. That's better off???
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 10:13:51 PM »
They're totally unaware of food being rationed, how are the poor better off?
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 10:16:49 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on December 16, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
They're totally unaware of food being rationed, how are the poor better off?

They're very aware.

They would starve millions of poor just to be able to lash-out at a few thousand rich men.

100 million eggs and not one goddam omelet.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 10:29:19 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on December 16, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
They're totally unaware of food being rationed, how are the poor better off?
Because they see socialism as only free money from the government (and punishment of the rich) and not the slavery that it really is. As long as Hugo continues his lies about being a man of the people, they will cheer him on.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 10:38:01 PM »
Ironically, none of these idiots think highly enough of their anointed saints to actually move to the paradise being created by such a wise and benevolent leader.

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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 10:47:00 PM »
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11. It's the same as granting emergency powers in the wake of any national disaster
   
in other democracies. He must still work within the framework of the Constitution, and is still held accountable to the Judiciary and the National Assembly. Both these bodies have the right to call a halt to anything he might do if they think it's not constitutional.

He's done it before and didn't cross the line, and this is an emergency for Venezuela.

What part of "by decree" does this asshat not understand?

It's really impossible to measure the idiocy at the DUmp! I don't believe the scale to measure it has yet to be invented!

Hey what a great idea! Perhaps I'll look into writing software so we could get a general idea!

Naw, it would be too difficult to try and separate the idiots from the morons or the complete brain dead zombies! They're too much alike and right now I don't have the ability to tap into NASA's super computer!

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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 03:28:54 AM »
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Naw, it would be too difficult to try and separate the idiots from the morons or the complete brain dead zombies! They're too much alike and right now I don't have the ability to tap into NASA's super computer!

Even NASA's Cray would have lots of problems.  See the monster in your gif in your sig line?  That's about what would happen to it.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 03:40:50 AM »
EFerrari responds with an LMAO, I guess her usual LOL just wasn't enough in this case.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 05:55:44 AM »
The irony is that over and over they say conservatives "vote against their best interests" because we all think someday we will be rich.
Even though all through history socialism and the inevitable tyranny needed to try to enforce it has destroyed lives DUmmies would vote for it in a second thinking that somehow they will be enshrined with a favored place at the table by it.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 10:10:59 AM »
To a DUchebag, nothing says democracy like a dictator.

They BELIEEEEVVVEEE in their black hearts that not only does 1+1=POTATO but also that they can count to BLUE.
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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 06:16:47 PM »
Unbelievable with the DUmmies. They love dictators like a fat kid likes cake.
Those that can't function in everyday life without gubberment intervention see fit for a dictator. :mental:
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 07:37:50 PM »
Quote from: true_blood on December 17, 2010, 06:16:47 PM
Unbelievable with the DUmmies. They love dictators like a fat kid likes cake.
Those that can't function in everyday life without gubberment intervention see fit for a dictator. :mental:

No dictator is too evil for them. They even defend Stalin's deliberate starvation of Ukrainians. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3046019

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sun Oct-28-07 11:11 PM
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11. it wasn't a genocide
   
Genocide takes place against helpless victims who are no longer resisting the central government, or didn't resist to begin with. The Ukrainian kulaks were definitely defying the central government, and the killing stopped when they surrendered. If people are going to call this a genocide, they might as well call Stalin's army purges a genocide, the Irish potato famine a genocide, the devastation of American inner cities a genocide, the Counter-Reformation a genocide, and so on.

People with an ideological chip on their shoulder have tossed around the word genocide that it is faced with a loss of relevant meaning, the same way the charge of racism has been tossed around.
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14. Exactly, and it was Hitlerite Germany that called it "genocide" in their propaganda
   
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western mass (687 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Oct-29-07 04:14 AM
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15. How to make the word "genocide" meaningless:
   
Apply it to anything.

"Genocide" is the deliberate and systematic destruction of an ethnic, religious or national group. Collectivization in the 30's, however poorly- or murderously-implemented, wasn't an attempt to kill all Ukrainians. To say so is ludicrous and pure propaganda.

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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 07:40:41 AM »
Quote from: Attero Dominatus on December 17, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
No dictator is too evil for them. They even defend Stalin's deliberate starvation of Ukrainians. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3046019


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Re: Hugo Chavez seeks rule by degree. Most DUmmies in denial.
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 04:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on December 16, 2010, 10:13:51 PM
They're totally unaware of food being rationed, how are the poor better off?
BG, they suffer from a mental disorder called liberalism. :-)
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