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The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« on: December 08, 2010, 11:42:41 AM »



This is priceless.  The DUmmies finally catch on that the big Zero is nothing more than an empty suit.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:18 AM
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I think Obama's problem is that his heart is in the right place, he just doesn't know how to govern.
   
Before you start calling me a 'concern troll' or whatever other name you want to call me, just hear me out - please.

According to Websters - the definition of GOVERN is :

1. to prevail or have decisive influence : control

2. to exercise authority

I looked at our President's face yesterday and I really believe that it sickened him to pass a bill with the
Millionaire taxcut in it. He just didn't know how to get what he wanted.

And I really believe he is shocked by the way his base is reacting and how it could even be possible that we don't understand how hard it was for him to get the few things he wanted in this bill.

Just look at the Healthcare debate. He stood up and addressed both chambers of Congress and told them that HCR would pass under his watch, and then handed it off to Congress to get it done. Yes, I'm sure he was involved calling Pelosi and Reid, having top members of his cabinet go down to Congress and keep everyone motivated. But that was it. There was no "I have a mandate - the voters have spoken" campaign, like the Repugs are so good at. He didn't even push for the Public Option even tho reports showed that was the only way to get insurance costs under control. This administration let August 2009 happen - they let Sarah Palin and her ilk control the message and spread lies about HCR. This administration didn't know how to stop them. In the end Healthcare reform passed in a watered down version. Thanks to Pelosi and the true progressives in the House we got something at all, and now we are at the risk of losing even that.

I really believe that Obama wants to end DADT. He has the backing of the majority of the military and their officers. He has backing of the courts. Now is the moment to do this. He just doesn't know how to get it done.

How else can you explain that one Senator is holding up the START treaty when every Sec of State that is still living, both Repub & Dem, Democratically elected leaders from around the globe, are all publicly saying that the Republicans are playing politics with our Security and that this bill needs to pass ASAP. Yet he still can't figure out how to win that argument & get the START treaty passed.


Tweety, who is not my favorite, always says "It's one thing to campaign, it's another thing to govern". I think that says it all. You can talk the good talk all you want, but are you going to be able to accomplish what you set out to do? - that's the tough part.

Knowing how to govern - that's the difference between one President leading a nation into a needless war, and another President not being able to get legislation passed even when the majority of Americans want that very legislation to pass.

You can know what you want, you can know what is right (left ;)), but unless you know how to get it done - it doesn't mean crap, does it? Dreams are not enough - especially when you only have 4 years to make them come true. You can't even have a spine, if you don't know how to govern.

So Mr President, the next time you are walking the halls of the White House singing Adam Lambert's "What do you want from me?", the answer is simple. We want you to govern.... to exercise your authority and have decisive influence. Yes the Republicans may have won back ONE of the THREE Chambers of the legislative branch of Government - but the Democrats STILL control the other two. YOU are STILL the leader of this nation.

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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:40 AM
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12. This is what happens when we elect someone with no executive experience, very
   
little legislative experience, and no apparent non-negotiable core principles.

Caveat voter.


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closeupready (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:44 AM
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15. Yes.
   
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:44 AM
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17. You know what - it's hard to say this, because I don't want to say this -
   
You're right.

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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:49 AM
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22. Good, slick marketing + a gullible, willing populace
   
That's how we got to where we are.

We really didn't kick the tires and look under the hood to see what we were buying.

We were so tired of the old jalopy we had for the past 8 years, we were willing to believe anything the salesman told us.

We WANTED to believe.

Now we have a lemon.

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37. I agree.
   
You are right.

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18. People just aren't giving him a chance.
   

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:48 AM
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21. You forgot the sarcasm smiley. His term is 1/2 over.
   

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closeupready (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:49 AM
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23. It's only been 24 months!!!!1111 !!!
   
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20. You're still in negative territory despite my rec
   
I think you summed up my position perfectly.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:50 AM
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24. Thank you! I knew this would not be a popular post. I just had to get my feelings off my chest &
   
written down somewhere. At DU seemed like the perfect place for that ;)


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Liberalynn (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Dec-08-10 10:53 AM
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26. He's Harvard Educated! Shouldn't he Have a Clue?
   
And unlike Dumbya Jr. whose daddy bought his diploma, I think Obama earned his own way and was there because of his intelligence. Plus he is supposed to be a Constitutional Law Scholar.

So I don't buy that he doesn't know how to govern. If he dosen't then he should demand his money back from Harvard. Also if it is true that he is clueless, then he shouldn't have run for the Presidency in the first place at least until he gained some more knowledge and experience.

His learning curve has been too expensive for the rest of us, IMHO.

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28. Education is no replacement for real world experience
   
It was never reasonable to expect Obama would be an effective governor, given that he had zero executive experience going in. He was never a mayor or state governor, nor did he head a business or government agency. So on what basis would one expect that he could step into the biggest executive job in existence and perform well?

Take a look at past Presidents... every one of them had some level of executive experience before becoming President.

Bush II was governor of Texas for two terms (and he f-ed up the Presidency badly even still)
Clinton was governor of Arkansas for multiple terms
Bush I ran a number of organizations including the CIA and had 8 years of VP warm-up (and still f-ed up)
Reagan was governor of California and head of the Screen Actors Guild.
Carter was governor of Georgia.
Ford had Navy officer experience and VP experience.
Nixon helped to run a law firm, was a Navy officer, and had VP experience.
LBJ had been VP, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Majority Whip, and had a host of other leadership positions including military.
Kennedy wasn't the most experienced executive but he at least had wartime military command experience.
Eisenhower was of course a general who was instrumental in winning WWII.

keep going back in time and almost every President had at the minimum military command experience (for a very long time it was seen as a prerequisite to the job).

And then we have Barack Obama. Closest thing I can find to executive experience is a stint as director of a church/charity organization. I guess that is something but it's pretty damn light compared to almost any of his predecessors.


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34. good points. You're right.
   
I still don't think it excuses his behavior. I still think if he had the best interests of the party and the country at heart he would have confessed his inexperience and not run until he had some more of that real world experience under his belt. But that is milk all ready spilled, and JMHO, and not worth a dime.

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27. You've put into words
   
what I've been trying to articulate in my mind for a while now. I don't think he's evil or has, in general, a Republican mindset. He simply isn't skilled at governing. I'm hoping against the odds that he will do better these next two years. I have to hold on to some optimism or else I'd go crazy or fall into clinical depression lol.
   
25 years ago we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope.  Now we have Obama, no hope and no cash.

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 11:51:11 AM »
A few of them are catching on. How long until they begin to realize he's a Kenyan muslim?
(Of course, that would buy him a lot of cred at the DUmp.)

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 11:56:36 AM »
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This administration let August 2009 happen - they let Sarah Palin and her ilk control the message and spread lies about HCR. This administration didn't know how to stop them.

That is because they were not lies,hence no way to refute the truth.

Wake up and think about it DUmmy.

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 11:57:46 AM »
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It was never reasonable to expect Obama would be an effective governor, given that he had zero executive experience going in. He was never a mayor Palin wasor state governor Palin was, nor did he head a business or government agency. So on what basis would one expect that he could step into the biggest executive job in existence and perform well?

You  :censored: DUmmies really piss me off.  We told you he had no experience, no leadership, no real world experience, but you DUmmies couldn't see past his flowery prose that came from his teleprompter.  You couldn't see past your own desire to elect a black man, no matter how ill prepared he seemed.

Well, now he's the pres__ent, and voting present just doesn't do the job.

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 12:00:14 PM »
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26. He's Harvard Educated! Shouldn't he Have a Clue?
  
And unlike Dumbya Jr. whose daddy bought his diploma, I think Obama earned his own way and was there because of his intelligence. Plus he is supposed to be a Constitutional Law Scholar.

So I don't buy that he doesn't know how to govern. If he dosen't then he should demand his money back from Harvard. Also if it is true that he is clueless, then he shouldn't have run for the Presidency in the first place at least until he gained some more knowledge and experience.

His learning curve has been too expensive for the rest of us, IMHO.



No you idiotic fool...his entire formative life has been the result of handlers and affirmative action pushes.
There is a reason his collage record is hidden.

He came to believe that he was the chosen one and viewed governing as by decree.

In short he is a light weight and intellectually vacant,considering himself so smart he never learned a damn thing.

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 12:02:01 PM »
DUmmies have always been so well informed and used their critical thinking skills. Idiots.  :bawl:

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 12:44:39 PM »
Who knows the DUchebags might come around to the fact that Obama, at most, has an average IQ of a 100.  I, personally, believe it to be at most 90.
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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 01:32:02 PM »
You  :censored: DUmmies really piss me off.  We told you he had no experience, no leadership, no real world experience, but you DUmmies couldn't see past his flowery prose that came from his teleprompter.  You couldn't see past your own desire to elect a black man, no matter how ill prepared he seemed.

Well, now he's the pres__ent, and voting present just doesn't do the job.

NO SHIT!!!

I especially liked this little hand-out.....

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And I really believe he is shocked by the way his base is reacting and how it could even be possible that we don't understand how hard it was for him to get the few things he wanted in this bill.

Call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!!!!!!!!!!

What a POS whiner!!! Somebody needs to change his didy!
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 01:37:08 PM »
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22. Good, slick marketing + a gullible, willing populace
   
That's how we got to where we are.

We really didn't kick the tires and look under the hood to see what we were buying.

We were so tired of the old jalopy we had for the past 8 years, we were willing to believe anything the salesman told us.

We WANTED to believe.

Now we have a lemon.


Pucker up.    :lmao:
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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 01:37:32 PM »
Oh, NOW they realize that a president of the U.S. needs a little something more that street rabble-rousing experience?  Even the Harvard degree is largely worthless.  It's a little late isn't it?  It's nice to see them waking up a little, but it pisses me off how a plurality of the electorate could be that duped.   :hammer: :hammer: :banghead:

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2010, 02:34:23 PM »
It's nice to see them waking up a little, but it pisses me off how a plurality of the electorate could be thatduped.   :hammer: :hammer: :banghead:

You know how that happened?  With willing accomplices in the leftstream media.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2010, 03:13:52 PM »
DUmmie says, "Now we have a lemon."

Well, I thought they passed a lemon law several years ago. We've given Zero a test drive and like the lemon he is, he left us beside the road. Sooo, can we get our money back?
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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »
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26. He's Harvard Educated! Shouldn't he Have a Clue?
   
..., I think Obama earned his own way and was there because of his intelligence. Plus he is supposed to be a Constitutional Law Scholar.

You really, truly don't have a clue about the phoniness of higher education in the liberal arts, Ivy League affirmative action, or just how low the bar is to become adjunct faculty, do you? 
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I think Obama's problem is that... he just doesn't know how to govern.

Thank you, Jesus!  The scales have fallen off of the DUmmies' eyes!

 :whatever:

Welcome to were we have been for about 3 years, DUmbass.
   
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I looked at our President's face yesterday and I really believe that it sickened him to pass a bill with the Millionaire taxcut in it. He just didn't know how to get what he wanted.

Wrong, DUmbass!

First of all, he didn't pass anything, nothing has been signed into law. 

Second, it's an extension of existing tax rates.  Did you catch that, DUmbass?  EX-IS-TING TAX RATES

Third, he looked like a spoiled assed little kid who finally got shut down by adults.

Damn, but you are stupid.

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And I really believe he is shocked by the way his base is reacting and how it could even be possible that we don't understand how hard it was for him to get the few things he wanted in this bill.

That's right, DUmbass, he is shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that all of us didn't fall at his feet and fellate him for his stupendous generosity and wisdom.

Shame on all of us....

 :whatever:

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Just look at the Healthcare debate. He stood up and addressed both chambers of Congress and told them that HCR would pass under his watch, and then handed it off to Congress to get it done. Yes, I'm sure he was involved calling Pelosi and Reid, having top members of his cabinet go down to Congress and keep everyone motivated. But that was it. There was no "I have a mandate - the voters have spoken" campaign, like the Repugs are so good at.

Yep, that's right, he voted "present".  No effort, no clear direction, no nothing from the thugocrat in chief - just punt it down the line and hope somebody picks it up.

What was it you were saying about not being able to govern?

Oh, for the record, the ass drubbing you twats took last month is a clear message from the voters:  The only "man-date" you have now is the one you can hustle up at the bus station.

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He didn't even push for the Public Option even tho reports showed that was the only way to get insurance costs under control.

Reports from where?  Cuba?  Venezuela?  Harvard?

There are no such credible reports, fool.

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This administration let August 2009 happen - they let Sarah Palin and her ilk control the message and spread lies about HCR.

Lies?  Town Hall meetings where the voters flame-sprayed their congresscrats for trying to shove hussein's bolshevism down their throats is somehow controlling the message and spreading lies?

 :whatever:

DUmbass, even Krugman admitted to the "death panels".

Suck on that.

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This administration didn't know how to stop them.

Oh, they tried.  They even hired America's favorite sheriff to peddle their bullshit.

One problem - we didn't buy into it.

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In the end Healthcare reform passed in a watered down version. Thanks to Pelosi and the true progressives in the House we got something at all, and now we are at the risk of losing even that.

Sweetheart, you have no idea how thankful we were that she was the face and focus of HCR.  That slack-titted gorgon did more to win TEA Party elections than anything else.

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I really believe that Obama wants to end DADT.

Throwing dick suckers and dyke flat-cockers among the troops to sow discord and unhappiness in the ranks?  Oh, of that I have no doubt.  Any chance hussein has to piss on the troops, he takes.

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He has the backing of the majority of the military and their officers.

Hardly.

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He has backing of the courts.

One activist judge does not "the courts" make, DUmbass.

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Now is the moment to do this.

Right after a "shellacking"?  Oh, yeah, definitely the right time.  I encourage you to stand on your rooftop and scream how much you want hussein to let the queers in the Armed Forces.

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He just doesn't know how to get it done.

Damn that silly Constitution and elections thingie.

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How else can you explain that one Senator is holding up the START treaty when every Sec of State that is still living, both Repub & Dem, Democratically elected leaders from around the globe, are all publicly saying that the Republicans are playing politics with our Security and that this bill needs to pass ASAP.

I could care less what a bunch of ex-Sec of State types and squishy Euro-twats have to say about surrendering to Russia.  **** Russia and the bottle of Stoli they staggered in with.

Patton said it best:

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You just wait and see. The lily-livered bastards in Washington will demobilize. They'll say they've made the world safe for democracy again. The Russians are not such damned fools. They'll rebuild; and with modern weapons.

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Yet he still can't figure out how to win that argument & get the START treaty passed.

Nor will he.  We the people don't want it.

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Tweety, who is not my favorite, always says "It's one thing to campaign, it's another thing to govern". I think that says it all. You can talk the good talk all you want, but are you going to be able to accomplish what you set out to do? - that's the tough part.

Hussein reminds me of the dog that eventually caught the car - not the first ****ing clue what to do with it.

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Knowing how to govern - that's the difference between one President leading a nation into a needless war


Needless war?  Another 9/10er heard from.

 :whatever:

Shut up, pissant, and try to be thankful we haven't had another event where our citizens were murdered in broad daylight.

Taking the fight to the enemy and making him bleed is what leaders do, ****wit.

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and another President not being able to get legislation passed even when the majority of Americans want that very legislation to pass.

Uh, no we don't.  It's obvious you didn't pay attention to the summer town hall meetings where the congresscrats got their asses handed to them by their constituents. 

Which is precisely why Hussein has not been able to completely **** us.

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Dreams are not enough - especially when you only have 4 years to make them come true. You can't even have a spine, if you don't know how to govern.

 :whatever:

Cry me a river, you overemotional fag.  Hussein has never had to really accomplish anything in his life and found out that being President is pretty damned hard.  Damn shame he had to figure it out at our expense, isn't it?

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So Mr President, the next time you are walking the halls of the White House singing Adam Lambert's "What do you want from me?", the answer is simple. We want you to govern

No, we want him to resign and get the hell out.

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to exercise your authority and have decisive influence.

Yes, exercise your authority to resign and have the decisive influence to get his "wife" to shut the hell up.

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Yes the Republicans may have won back ONE of the THREE Chambers of the legislative branch of Government - but the Democrats STILL control the other two.

This is all you ever need to see to never let these "geniuses" near the levers of power.

Hey, DUmbass, there are only TWO chambers of the legislative branch:  Congress and the Senate.  Did you hear me, ****o?  TWO!

For the smartest people in the room, these jokers are some really ignorant mother****ers.
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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2010, 04:04:56 PM »
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Yes the Republicans may have won back ONE of the THREE Chambers of the legislative branch of Government - but the Democrats STILL control the other two.

This is all you ever need to see to never let these "geniuses" near the levers of power.

Hey, DUmbass, there are only TWO chambers of the legislative branch:  Congress and the Senate.  Did you hear me, ****o?  TWO!

For the smartest people in the room, these jokers are some really ignorant mother****ers.

Katt Williams, Dr Zhivago, and now this????  Shoot, you just scored a hat trick!  Hi5!
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Offline dandi

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2010, 04:10:12 PM »
Katt Williams, Dr Zhivago, and now this????  Shoot, you just scored a hat trick!  Hi5!

It's been quite the day....

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2010, 04:19:04 PM »
You really, truly don't have a clue about the phoniness of higher education in the liberal arts, Ivy League affirmative action, or just how low the bar is to become adjunct faculty, do you? 

I read today the Chinese are smokin' us in the education of our teens! Boy, the gubmint controlled education wing of the left is really makin' our kids smarter, ain't it?
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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2010, 06:25:08 PM »
It's only going to get worse for the dems in the remaining 2 years of Obama's presidential travesty.  How much longer until they become the birthers and grade requesters? 

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Re: The DUmmies learn what we knew all along.
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2010, 07:03:52 PM »
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I think Obama's problem is that... he just doesn't know how to govern.
You are EXACTLY right. He is a great "community organizer" though. ::) ::)
He's an imposter.