Ban on school bake sales for fund raisers in new bill . . .

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DollyM Donating Member (685 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 05:57 PM
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Ban on school bake sales for fund raisers in new bill . . .
   
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40497637/ns/health-diet_and...

I am sorry but I can't help but feel that this part of the new school nutrition bill is just part of a good total package. Yes, it will require schools and parents be more creative in fund raising but gee, isn't creativity in the education process to be encouraged? I am sure that Fox news will have a hey day with this and make it seem like Obama hates schools and wants them to all go under because they do not hold bake sales. I for one see this as a much needed positive change.
I remember when I was in school, a "few" years back, and working as a teacher's aid as a high school student. We had a substitute teacher for a few days and she was collecting money that day for school lunches. We also had a bake sale that day at noon. The next day, an irate mother showed up at the classroom door, reaming the sub teacher out because her daughter received FREE lunches and the money she had collected from her daughter had been for her to spend on the candy sale that day. Even as a teenager, the irony of the situation did not escape me. It's far past time that we revamp what are children are able to get to eat at the school.
PS.the bill did not say that parents could not hold a bake sale off campus, many times a store or public place is the best place to hold a bake sale.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9690625

ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 06:00 PM
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1. bake sales have been going on for decades
   
to outlaw them is silly and petty.

Too bad you voted for the people doing this.

Initech (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 06:07 PM
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4. The worst example is New York.
   
There it's illegal to sell home-baked goods but at "bake sales" you can sell crap like Doritos and Hostess cakes.

aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 06:01 PM
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2. STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!
   
Now, instead of being able to control the ingredients in the baked goods, parents are expected to encourage their children to eat portion-controlled corporate dreck in plastic wrappers.

You can thank liberalism for all this. 

niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 09:06 PM
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18. my favourite t-shirt from northern sun:
   
"it will be a great day when our schools have all the money they need, and the air force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber"

used to wear it whenever the recruiters were around. gee, for some reason, they didn't like it.

maybe because that is idiotic.

The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Dec-04-10 09:53 PM
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20.  US Citizens are the suspects - the govt must control us for our own good, and folks here
   
well I am amazed at how often I see them in favor of removing the rights of others (usually to save us money from health care costs). Don't like something someone else engages in? Ban it.

Like smoking in bars. Would love to have someone, anyone here or anywhere, tell me who dragged them to a bar that allows smoking and forced them to go in.

No one did, but banning choice (with ONLY one exception, abortion) is good.

Me, I at least stick with my principles (and get called a libertarian because I believe in 'your body, your choice', silly me, I always thought it was a principle we were fighting for and not some slogan for only one issue).

Once again thank liberalism.

[Allentownjake]

Shit, try sending anything to schools right now.  Is it just me or is there a sudden outbreak of Peanut allergies in this country.

[Evil_Conservative]

Bake sales at school were always for the cheerleaders to get new uniforms... at least in my way back days of High School... way way way back in 1997-2001.

[catsmtrods]

Shit, try sending anything to schools right now.  Is it just me or is there a sudden outbreak of Peanut allergies in this country.

I notice that. I don't buy it unless there has been a change in the way peanuts are grown? When I was a kid in the 50s-60s all we ever ate were PB+J sammies.  Everybody ate them and I never heard of any allergies. Same with lactose intolerance, shit, when I was in grade school we were forced to drink our milk! Of course it was whole milk delivered from the local dairy. I now go the a local farmer who sells raw milk and meet lactose intolrent people there? I think they are feeding us BS!

[thundley4]

I wonder if this ban will include selling candy bars for fund raisers.  It seemed that some group or other was always selling candy bars to raise money and it was unusual not to see a couple of students  carrying the bags with them to classes.

[diesel driver]

I wonder if this ban will include selling candy bars for fund raisers.  It seemed that some group or other was always selling candy bars to raise money and it was unusual not to see a couple of students  carrying the bags with them to classes.

All in due time   

[Randy]

Shit, try sending anything to schools right now.  Is it just me or is there a sudden outbreak of Peanut allergies in this country.

Yep, that and bee sting allergies. It seems like every 3rd person has one or the other or both. It's all part of the Pussification of America.

[jukin]

It's like the DUmbasses almost see the totalitarianism of the left but are so indoctrinated they can't quite put it together.  So much for the most smartest, giftedest, and talentedest losers on the internet.

Progressivism as liberalism was before is nothing but a con for communism and a two tiered state.  The left loves poor and impoverished people because they are no threat to their power. The left hates the middle class because they have the ability to remove them from power.

That is why Marx and Lenin HATED the bourgeois and all of their policies are aimed at eliminating the middle class. Remember that when you hear a donk say they are doing something for the middle class, they are actually doing something TO the middle class.

Here is Lenin's take on controlling the populace:
"The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation."

This is exactly what Obama and Bernake are doing with the deficits and the many QEs.

[AprilRazz]

Shit, try sending anything to schools right now.  Is it just me or is there a sudden outbreak of Peanut allergies in this country.

It is more like kids that live in sterile environments. Parents are afraid to let their kids eat dirt anymore. They are kept locked away in a sanitized house playing video games. Now we have a generation of fat kids with no immunity.

[thundley4]

It is more like kids that live in sterile environments. Parents are afraid to let their kids eat dirt anymore. They are kept locked away in a sanitized house playing video games. Now we have a generation of fat kids with no immunity.

I think that has a lot to do with it.  Children are rushed to the doctor with the least sniffle, and they aren't allowed to be exposed to germs and dirt by their parents.  Their bodies never build a natural immunity.

[AprilRazz]

I think that has a lot to do with it.  Children are rushed to the doctor with the least sniffle, and they aren't allowed to be exposed to germs and dirt by their parents.  Their bodies never build a natural immunity.

Back when I was a girl (uphill both ways to school in 10 feet of snow always keeping an eye out for saber tooth tigers) in a class of 30 kids there was maybe one kid that was overweight. Now the kids that are of a healthy weight are the minority. Fat causes health problems as well as makes others worse. Gone are the days of children that roamed the outdoors and only came home to eat. I think the Adam Walsh tragedy started the trend of not allowing kids to go outside to be kids in fear of them being snatched up.
Then along comes the internet to feed the paranoia that had been planted.

[true_blood]

Initech (1000+ posts)  Sat Dec-04-10 06:07 PM
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4. The worst example is New York. There it's illegal to sell home-baked goods but at "bake sales" you can sell crap like Doritos and Hostess cakes.

Of course. That's one of the states that is worse affected by the mental disorder known as liberalism.
The more you DUmmies/liberals embrace your large gubberment, the more you lose, you idiots.

[ColonialMarine0431]

I think that has a lot to do with it.  Children are rushed to the doctor with the least sniffle, and they aren't allowed to be exposed to germs and dirt by their parents.  Their bodies never build a natural immunity.

Bingo! I recall some commercial where a mother is watching her child play in a playground and he falls and skins his knee. Mommy comes running and sprays his knee with Neosporin or something like that. I just shook my head and said "Good Lord".

I've also seen a playground where the ground was covered in rubber shreds. It was like cypress mulch but it was all rubber.

No wonder it's getting harder to recruit for the Armed Services; Americans get softer and softer with each generation.

[Evil_Conservative]

The parks in Las Vegas have that recycled rubber crap on the ground.  It looks awful.  It's dirty and all torn up.  My daughter has fallen down a lot, as long as she isn't hurt, I tell her to stand back up. 

[formerlurker]

Yep, that and bee sting allergies. It seems like every 3rd person has one or the other or both. It's all part of the Pussification of America.

So a kid who goes into anaphylactic shock is a sissy?   just needs to toughen up a little? 

[Allentownjake]

So a kid who goes into anaphylactic shock is a sissy?   just needs to toughen up a little? 

Not really the point I meant when I brought that up, just seems there are more kids with deadly allergies than when I was a kid.

[GOBUCKS]

The bake sale ban is typical democrat nonsense. The ban should apply only to zucchini bread.

[Randy]

Not really the point I meant when I brought that up, just seems there are more kids with deadly allergies than when I was a kid.

My point was that people are getting to be such pantie waists that any excuse to avoid anything remotely scary is thrown out.

Peanut allergy to avoid foods.
Bee stings to avoid outdoors.
Autism to avoid personal responsibility.

[thundley4]

My point was that people are getting to be such pantie waists that any excuse to avoid anything remotely scary is thrown out.

Peanut allergy to avoid foods.
Bee stings to avoid outdoors.
Autism to avoid personal responsibility.

Teachers and administrators wanting kids to be diagnosed with  ADHD so they can be medicated zombies in class.

[littlelamb]

We have 3 kids with allergies so we got a list at the start of the year of what food was safe. It is funny to watch my 7 year old run to see if her snack is on the safe list

[true_blood]

Teachers and administrators wanting kids to be diagnosed with  ADHD so they can be medicated zombies in class.

That would be the liberals' dreams.
Instead of trying something else, automatically they assume they need mediation. Hence, liberalism is a mental disorder. And so it goes.

[Peet]

The parks in Las Vegas have that recycled rubber crap on the ground.  It looks awful.  It's dirty and all torn up.  [snip]

Now that explains it.  We use that crap behind the backstop of our fifty-foot indoor range.  I kinda wondered what they did with it after it was impregnated with lead shot and slugs.    

Peet (putting out fire with gasoline)

[formerlurker]

My point was that people are getting to be such pantie waists that any excuse to avoid anything remotely scary is thrown out.

Peanut allergy to avoid foods.
Bee stings to avoid outdoors.
Autism to avoid personal responsibility.

 

[Texacon]

What's amazing is .... a couple of years down the road the libs will be saying all these laws and restrictions are due to the conservatives.

KC

[Texacon]

So a kid who goes into anaphylactic shock is a sissy?   just needs to toughen up a little? 

formerlurker you got one of the 4 or 5 bs's I've given out in all the time I've been here.

Yes, the kid who is afraid of anaphylactic shock needs to toughen up a little.

When I was very young, maybe 8 or 9 it was discovered I was allergic to bees.  HIGHLY allergic.  I had about 15 minutes to get medical attention or that, as they say, was that.

I was in the cub scouts, boy scouts, went camping with my folks, mowed lawns and eventually joined the military (I lied about having no allergies).

I carried an injector with me for years.  I have no idea WHEN I outgrew the allergy but I evidently did. 

Yeah, there is no sense in some of the shit that goes on.  It is all hypersensitivity.  Shit happens.

KC