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A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« on: December 02, 2010, 09:13:49 PM »
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A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
   
Shame on America for maintaining it.

Yes, most death penalty sentencees are despicable people. This is not in their defense. It is about the small piece of ourselves we give with each such sentence.

Charles Manson is proof that life sentences can have meaning.

The Innocence Project is proof that we, as a society, are incapable of administering such an irrevocable determination.

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So tell me foul smelling jester, since having a death penalty is not evolved, when you and your buddies cry for Bush to be executed at the Hague are you guilty of not being evolved as well?

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1. agreed... America is being forced backwards
   
by sociopaths and criminals

And you goons vote for them like clockwork every two years.

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9. We are an infant society...
   
Compared to most of the rest of the world.

We are among the few remaining savage countries who still kill.

There's no asterisk after "Thou shalt not kill."

If only we were as evolved and nuanced as those brown people in the mid east ohh wait they have the death penalty for just being gay.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 09:21:56 PM »
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Dec-02-10 07:47 PM
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9. We are an infant society...
   
Compared to most of the rest of the world.

We are among the few remaining savage countries who still kill.

There's no asterisk after "Thou shalt not kill."

Does this mean that Juniper is against murdering unborn babies?
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 09:25:30 PM »
I still maintain that the DUmmies need to form an "Adopt a Death Row Convict" program if they are so mortified by these murderous f*cks receiving a less than brutal death than their victims.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2010, 09:32:15 PM by Odin's Hand »
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 09:44:28 PM »
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Charles Manson is proof that life sentences can have meaning.

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The sparkling husband primitive has said some really stupid things through the years, and this is among them.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 09:52:49 PM »
Yeah, those other countries have evolved into chaos and insignificance. There's a model to follow. Oh and what about those lovely British folks at the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE - if that isn't newspeak I don't know what is) who decide who lives or dies based on the cost of treating them? Those people committed no crime yet they spend less time on "death row" than criminals sentenced to death in this country (with appeals it's over 10 years). And they spend their last few months suffering and in pain. That's real progressive, huh? Sounds a hell of a lot more barbaric than letting someone get 3 squares a day and are allowed endless appeals. And how many have televisions and radios? They even get a last meal of their choice. I'd bet those poor British citizens are often too sick to have a last meal of their favorite foods.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 09:56:10 PM »
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Charles Manson is proof that life sentences can have meaning.

Oh holy hell in a handbasket!  Did I really just read this??

Actually, IMHO, I think that we should use the death penalty more often.  And not in that huggy-feely lethal injection way.  That costs too much.  We need to go back to the firing squad, hangings, or even the guillotine.  Publicized please, so people see the consequences of actions.  Perhaps then we can stop wasting so much dang money on the un-reformable.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 10:15:27 PM »
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9. We are an infant society...
   
Compared to most of the rest of the world.

We are among the few remaining savage countries who still kill.

There's no asterisk after "Thou shalt not kill."

It doesn't say that.  It says, "Thou shalt not commit murder."  Which is to say that killing another person deliberately and without sanction if the state is a sin.  The Jews had this commandment, and the death penalty, and waged war.  I think I'll take their word for it over any DUmmie.

Jesus didn't directly oppose the death penalty.  In Mary Magdalene's case, he pointed out that the law was hypocritical for not punishing the man especially when the name of the man was know, it's what he was drawing in the sand.  Unlike DUmmies, most people don't like being a hypocrite if they have a choice.  In the case of the soldiers that Jesus met, he never once told them they were wrong because they might kill someone.  He merely said to "soldier well"  which meant to carry out their duties as ethically as they could manage.  Again, do I take a DUmmies word for it or Jesus?  Not really a hard choice.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 10:21:25 PM »
I think the Death Penalty should be confined to Treason and for use in the Military in Battle.

Personally, if given the choice of life in a cage or death, I'd choose death.  Make the ****ers live in a cage for the rest of their life.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 10:41:05 PM »
Quote from: Allentownjake on December 02, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
I think the Death Penalty should be confined to Treason and for use in the Military in Battle.

Personally, if given the choice of life in a cage or death, I'd choose death.  Make the ****ers live in a cage for the rest of their life.

What if those "****ers" get lose and injure or kill more people.  The state has a sovereign responsibility to protect it's citizens from criminals.  If a person has been deemed unfit to ever be free, then that person has also been deemed unfit to live.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 10:42:13 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on December 02, 2010, 10:41:05 PM
What if those "****ers" get lose and injure or kill more people.  The state has a sovereign responsibility to protect it's citizens from criminals.  If a person has been deemed unfit to ever be free, then that person has also been deemed unfit to live.

Personally, I think the prisons are in the wrong place.  Alaska has a lot of land.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 11:19:03 PM »
How about we let them die with as much dignity, compassion and decency that they allowed their victims.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 11:41:47 PM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on December 02, 2010, 11:19:03 PM
How about we let them die with as much dignity, compassion and decency that they allowed their victims.

In most cases that would break the cruel and unusual punishment.  The entire point of that particular provision is to maintain moral superiority.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2010, 12:09:56 AM »
I wonder if the stinky bastard would keep those two guys that raped and murdered that mother and her two daughters at his place.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2010, 01:22:30 AM »
Quote from: Allentownjake on December 02, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
I think the Death Penalty should be confined to Treason and for use in the Military in Battle.

Personally, if given the choice of life in a cage or death, I'd choose death.  Make the ****ers live in a cage for the rest of their life.

The problem is we have to pay for them to live in a cage. That money can be better spent on someone who hasn't killed another human being. And no more endless appeals. One or two should be sufficient. Then kill the bastard. They can live in a cage in hell. Oh, and you can cut the nuts off of rapists, too.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 01:50:38 AM »
Quote from: Allentownjake on December 02, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
Personally, I think the prisons are in the wrong place.  Alaska has a lot of land.

Good plan as long as it's wintertime and they're in bermuda shorts and tents.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 05:06:13 AM »
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Good plan as long as it's wintertime and they're in bermuda shorts and tents.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2010, 05:49:36 AM »
I could live without the death penalty if ...IF... they would put them in a cell at the same level (conditions) of prison cells as those of 1800, weld the door shut and don't let them out again for no reason until they're dead.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2010, 06:28:40 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on December 03, 2010, 01:22:30 AM
The problem is we have to pay for them to live in a cage. That money can be better spent on someone who hasn't killed another human being. And no more endless appeals. One or two should be sufficient. Then kill the bastard. They can live in a cage in hell. Oh, and you can cut the nuts off of rapists, too.

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It could be very cost effective to snuff tens of thousands of criminals simply to have done with them but we will find ourselves saying, "he doesn't deserve that" about a great many offenses.

Nor, should rehabilitation be the objective because great amounts of cruelty could be inflicted in the name of a cure.

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2010, 12:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Allentownjake on December 02, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
Personally, if given the choice of life in a cage or death, I'd choose death.  Make the ****ers live in a cage for the rest of their life.

Personally, I think that the taxpayers should not be forced to pay for the care and housing of human waste.  The death penalty is a good deterrent as well as good housekeeping.

The objective of a civilized society is to keep it that way.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2010, 01:40:16 PM »
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A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
Well maybe so but it is a shit-load of a safer society.

The tragedy is NOT the state (the citizens) executing a criminal human being. The tragedy is the state (the citizens) being FORCED to terminate the life of a criminal human being to PROTECT itself.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2010, 01:47:12 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on December 02, 2010, 09:13:49 PM
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So tell me foul smelling jester, since having a death penalty is not evolved, when you and your buddies cry for Bush to be executed at the Hague are you guilty of not being evolved as well?

And you goons vote for them like clockwork every two years.

If only we were as evolved and nuanced as those brown people in the mid east ohh wait they have the death penalty for just being gay.


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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2010, 01:56:03 PM »
Quote from: Allentownjake on December 02, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
I think the Death Penalty should be confined to Treason and for use in the Military in Battle.

Personally, if given the choice of life in a cage or death, I'd choose death.  Make the ****ers live in a cage for the rest of their life.
I agree Jake but you must guarantee those '****ers' NEVER get out of their cage unless in a bag.
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2010, 01:58:20 PM »
**** it, I'm not even reading the thread.  I'm having such a bad day, I'd like to execute everybody.  Guilty as charged.  Zap. 
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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2010, 02:04:30 PM »
Quote from: Karin on December 03, 2010, 01:58:20 PM
**** it, I'm not even reading the thread.  I'm having such a bad day, I'd like to execute everybody.  Guilty as charged.  Zap.  
Well...I can send you pics of me nekkid if that would help...  :tongue: :fuelfire: :fuelfire: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

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Re: A society that maintains a death penalty option is not an evolved society.
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2010, 02:25:54 PM »
Quote from: PatriotGame on December 03, 2010, 02:04:30 PM
Well...I can send you pics of me nekkid if that would help...  :tongue: :fuelfire: :fuelfire: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

I hope you get better...and remember...alcohol can be a friend...

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