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Offline thundley4

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Obama fails as a leader.
« on: December 02, 2010, 04:33:31 PM »
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cali (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:20 PM
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Why the **** didn't they address the bush tax cuts
   
a year and a half ago? It's a failure of leadership. Not that there's anything new about that. They could have dispatched this issue with ease.
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PBS Poll-435   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:20 PM
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1. During the worst financial crisis in our lifetimes?
   
Probably not the best time...

It should have been done instead of forcing ObamaCare and the Stimulus package through.  The economy would have been in better shape if this was done 18 months ago.  Obama doesn't care about the economy, just passing his liberal agenda.

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valerief   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:21 PM
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2. No, the tax cuts just added to the crisis. nt

No, but uncertainty about taxes and ObamaCare have hurt the economy.

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PBS Poll-435   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:24 PM
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7. People were fearful they were going to lose their jobs and homes
   
And Congress is going to debate raising taxes?

Seems unproductive. Hell, we lost the House anyway though so what do I know.

The house was lost because of Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

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cali (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:28 PM
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9. ridiculous.
   
that's just more repuke crap. the tax cuts were supposed to be a temporary measure and not giving huge breaks to the wealthiest among us would hardly impact people when it comes to losing their houses.

Too bad you DUmmies have fallen for the myth that the Bush tax cuts were only for the wealthy.

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PBS Poll-435   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:30 PM
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10. Perception v. Reality
   
It would be a mistake to pass TARP and Stimulus and then tell people their taxes were going up.

The DemonRats want to raise taxes?

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BrklynLiberal   (1000+ posts)             Thu Dec-02-10 04:42 PM
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16. "raising taxes"? How about canceling tax cuts for the richest 1% of Americans!!!???   
   
The additional revenue would HELP the economy and the govt and the deficit...

Cancelling all of the tax cuts would do more.  OTOH slashing spending would be even more productive.  Politicians never met a tax dollar they weren't willing to spend , two or three times.
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Offline jukin

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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 05:05:19 PM »
After ten years of the donks hysterically screaming that it was only tax cuts for the rich, suddenly the commies find out there were way more cuts for the lower and middle class.

I'm not calling the donks liars, I'm calling them ******* liars.
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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 05:10:41 PM »
Quote from: jukin on December 02, 2010, 05:05:19 PM
After ten years of the donks hysterically screaming that it was only tax cuts for the rich, suddenly the commies find out there were way more cuts for the lower and middle class.

I'm not calling the donks liars, I'm calling them ******* liars.

H5!  The problem is they are dlusional.  They actually believed the lie they sold to begin with....they seened to have forgotten the old admonition not to believe your own BS.
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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 05:36:49 PM »
The reason it is do difficult to understand DUmmy thinking is because those of us in the rational world understand the concept that if A is true then sometimes B must be false.
DUmmies in their never ending quest of "gimme" economics and life out look will believe whatever they think will accomplish that end even if it means believing 2 things that are mutually exclusive.

Ending unemployment benefits is bad because that money will be spent and that will stimulate the economy  :whatever: but then in another thread go on how spending money at Christmas is an evil plot to enrich the sinister wealthy.
In other words free money to spend on ME=good
Spending to give to someone else=bad.

It goes on and on that way.
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Offline thundley4

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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 05:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Carl on December 02, 2010, 05:36:49 PM
The reason it is do difficult to understand DUmmy thinking is because those of us in the rational world understand the concept that if A is true then sometimes B must be false.
DUmmies in their never ending quest of "gimme" economics and life out look will believe whatever they think will accomplish that end even if it means believing 2 things that are mutually exclusive.

Ending unemployment benefits is bad because that money will be spent and that will stimulate the economy  :whatever: but then in another thread go on how spending money at Christmas is an evil plot to enrich the sinister wealthy.
In other words free money to spend on ME=good
Spending to give to someone else=bad.

It goes on and on that way.


Get this:  Not extending Unemployment Benefits will cost 600,000 jobs , according to the White Mosque.
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Offline Carl

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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 06:04:25 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 02, 2010, 05:49:22 PM

Get this:  Not extending Unemployment Benefits will cost 600,000 jobs , according to the White Mosque.

Exactly...no sane person could come to that conclusion short of a desire to believe the impossible for personal reasons.

On edit...

Everyone should read that article thundley linked to.
You will think you have entered a Twilight Zone.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2010, 06:07:33 PM by Carl »
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Offline JohnnyReb

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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 06:06:13 PM »
Tee-Hee-Hee....."We're going to spread the wealth around."

DUmmies held both hands out for all the freebies they had wished for and Obama shit in both hands...... :lmao:
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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 07:02:18 PM »
Oh Noesss! :rotf:
Now the DUmmies get it when "it" hits their wallets and pocketbooks. Wake up!
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Re: Obama fails as a leader.
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 02:28:38 AM »
WOW they have 600,000 people writing government checks? No wonder we're screwed.
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