GOP smiles after W.H. session

[cavegal]

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1110/best_foot_forward_3ee305d6-cb36-4767-91cd-91c0323405aa.html

After talking with President Obama for two hours, Republicans said Tuesday that they were “pleased” and remained committed to finding “common ground.”

“The president did make the important point that he hasn’t spent much time with us – reaching out and talking to us, and committed to do so,” incoming House Speaker John Boehner, who said the meeting was “very nice,” told reporters.

“I think spending more time will help us ... find common ground,” Boehner said.

Now what?

[GOP Congress]

John Boehner and Eric Cantor, the new House Speaker and Majority Leader "PRESUMPTIVE", just came out of their initial meeting with Obama prior to the new Congress, and like true RINOS, hyped their compromise appeasement with Obama.

Hey... LISTEN UP!!

We need a SERIOUS DISCUSSION before the new Congress meets on our expectations of what we want our party leaders to understand. This is ANGER beyond belief. Our freshmen are going to have to take charge of this nonsense, and immediately distance themselves from these two RINO's moderates socialists.

Yes, I said it. Our republican leaders, by this action, are NO more than socialists. When capitalism compromises with socialism, capitalism is destroyed. Pure and simple.

John Boehner, SOCIALIST.
Eric Cantor, SOCIALIST.

Read this, understand the true paradigm you are dealing with. Compromising with evil is just as evil as the evil itself. Read my signature.

[Crazy Horse]

John Boehner and Eric Cantor, the new House Speaker and Majority Leader "PRESUMPTIVE", just came out of their initial meeting with Obama prior to the new Congress, and like true RINOS, hyped their compromise appeasement with Obama.

Hey... LISTEN UP!!

We need a SERIOUS DISCUSSION before the new Congress meets on our expectations of what we want our party leaders to understand. This is ANGER beyond belief. Our freshmen are going to have to take charge of this nonsense, and immediately distance themselves from these two RINO's moderates socialists.

Yes, I said it. Our republican leaders, by this action, are NO more than socialists. When capitalism compromises with socialism, capitalism is destroyed. Pure and simple.

John Boehner, SOCIALIST.
Eric Cantor, SOCIALIST.

Read this, understand the true paradigm you are dealing with. Compromising with evil is just as evil as the evil itself. Read my signature.

Hey frickin idjit..............long walk short pier

[ExGeeEye]

 

[dandi]

John Boehner and Eric Cantor, the new House Speaker and Majority Leader "PRESUMPTIVE", just came out of their initial meeting with Obama prior to the new Congress, and like true RINOS, hyped their compromise appeasement with Obama.

Hey... LISTEN UP!!

We need a SERIOUS DISCUSSION before the new Congress meets on our expectations of what we want our party leaders to understand. This is ANGER beyond belief. Our freshmen are going to have to take charge of this nonsense, and immediately distance themselves from these two RINO's moderates socialists.

Yes, I said it. Our republican leaders, by this action, are NO more than socialists. When capitalism compromises with socialism, capitalism is destroyed. Pure and simple.

John Boehner, SOCIALIST.
Eric Cantor, SOCIALIST.

Read this, understand the true paradigm you are dealing with. Compromising with evil is just as evil as the evil itself. Read my signature.

Hold your fire and save your energy until it happens...

[Chris_]

Editor's note: This article was changed at 1:57 p.m.. The Hill incorrectly reported in the initial version that Cantor wants to keep certain provisions of the healthcare law intact. The article was revised to emphasize that Cantor and House Republicans are pursuing a full repeal of healthcare reform while addressing issues in the law, such as pre-existing conditions and allowing young people to stay on their parents' insurance plan, in their replacement bill. Both provisions are in current law, but Republicans would deal with them differently than Democrats did in the bill that passed earlier this year.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/131081-cantor-gop-will-keep-some-provisions-of-healthcare-law-intact

[DumbAss Tanker]

The GOP isn't in such a strong position that it can simply dictate terms, and a great deal of polling running into the election does support that people want a certain amount of mutual cooperation out of Congress instead  of just a two-year pie fight.  So, I'm willing to withhold judgment for now and see what actually happens without necessarily taking all the tactful bonhomie and sound bites at face value. 

One thing I am sure of, is that Obama's idea of 'Bipartisan' still just means giving up your mistaken opposition to the O-verlord's plan, and agreeing with him.

[true_blood]

One thing I am sure of, is that Obama's idea of 'Bipartisan' still just means giving up your mistaken opposition to the O-verlord's plan, and agreeing with him.

I want to disagree, but I think you are 100% right. I really hope we're wrong DAT.

[GOP Congress]

I'm not one to mince words. The point of my earlier post is that we are at a stage where, more than ever, words MEAN things.

I also understand that the mainstream media is NOT our friend. The media is our enemy.

This means that WE are the ONLY people who can say things. And frankly, if you heard the press conference with the way Boehner and Cantor spoke, you would NOT THINK that the Tea Party has any influence whatsoever.

The POINT is that ALL of Obama's edicts are POISON. One can NOT dance around poison. One must eliminate it, not try to compromise with it.

And the ONLY gist I got from Boehner and Cantor was "compromise, compromise, compromise."

Folks, compromise is what GOT us Obama! Compromise and making nice is what GOT us socialized banks. Compromise and making nice is what GOT US into this insidious, dangerous situation.

You tell me to "wait." I've been waiting for DECADES. I really wish one of the freshmen would IMMEDIATELY come out and speak against this.

Frankly, folks, I knew that we were going to have a major congressional change the MINUTE Obama was elected. This was because I know the American people.

OK, that's enough for now, but I am putting out the major bells. When one compromises with socialism, one becomes a socialist by fiat. It is unfortunate that we are at that stage in our country, but that is the only rational position to maintain.

[5412]

I want to disagree, but I think you are 100% right. I really hope we're wrong DAT.

Hi,

I fear you might be right.....however....

I wrote books and taught the subject of negotiations for well over two decades.  As of this moment the two parties are basically posturing.  They have to appear to be doing something but when it gets down to brass tacks is when the real negotiations begins.  It would do neither party any good today to come off as arrogant.

When they meet and really try to decide issues is when the real games begin.  I can see congress sending bills to Obama whether he likes them or not and FORCING him to either sign a bill he gags on or veto it which sets up the 2012 election for conservatives.  Obama will try to avoid this or that by announcing he will veto the bill thinking that it will keep congress working until there is something he can sign.  If the Republicans fall for that crap they need to get canned.  They pass a bill popular with those that hired them and let the chips fall where they may.

regards,
5412

[true_blood]

It would do neither party any good today to come off as arrogant.
When they meet and really try to decide issues is when the real games begin.  I can see congress sending bills to Obama whether he likes them or not and FORCING him to either sign a bill he gags on or veto it which sets up the 2012 election for conservatives.  Obama will try to avoid this or that by announcing he will veto the bill thinking that it will keep congress working until there is something he can sign.  If the Republicans fall for that crap they need to get canned.  They pass a bill popular with those that hired them and let the chips fall where they may.
regards,
5412

I agree 5412.

[DixieBelle]

Totally agree with 5412.

[5412]

Hi,

I sure hope they are listening to Carl Rove.  Last night on Greta's show he basically outlined the strategy.  You pass bills in congress that the majority of the public are n favor of, like making the Bush tax cuts permanent.  Then the president has a problem.  He can veto it but he really is in a pickle if he does.

Rove also asked a question.

Why is it this lame duck congress with virtually two weeks to go is working on gays in the military, immigration, spending a week on some food law when people want them to get the economy fixed and create jobs???  They have yet to pass a budget resolution, much less a budget, the public is on edge about 2011 taxes yet they are continuing to push their liberal, communist social agenda.  He suggested that congress extend the Bush tax cuts for three months to get into next years session then they have three months to deal with it in the new congress.

If there ever was a clear signal as to what the BO agenda is, along with Pelosi and the other commies, it is what they are trying to do in this lame duck session.  They are trying to cram down more unpopular legislation, governing against the will of the people, with no concern about jobs and American families.  2012 cannot arrive here soon enough.  Let's only hope the RINO's continue to get their ass kicked and more good conservatives continue to arrive on the scene.

regards,
5412

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm not one to mince words. The point of my earlier post is that we are at a stage where, more than ever, words MEAN things.

I also understand that the mainstream media is NOT our friend. The media is our enemy.

This means that WE are the ONLY people who can say things. And frankly, if you heard the press conference with the way Boehner and Cantor spoke, you would NOT THINK that the Tea Party has any influence whatsoever.

The POINT is that ALL of Obama's edicts are POISON. One can NOT dance around poison. One must eliminate it, not try to compromise with it.

And the ONLY gist I got from Boehner and Cantor was "compromise, compromise, compromise."

Folks, compromise is what GOT us Obama! Compromise and making nice is what GOT us socialized banks. Compromise and making nice is what GOT US into this insidious, dangerous situation.

You tell me to "wait." I've been waiting for DECADES. I really wish one of the freshmen would IMMEDIATELY come out and speak against this.

Frankly, folks, I knew that we were going to have a major congressional change the MINUTE Obama was elected. This was because I know the American people.

OK, that's enough for now, but I am putting out the major bells. When one compromises with socialism, one becomes a socialist by fiat. It is unfortunate that we are at that stage in our country, but that is the only rational position to maintain.

Large talk, but that's also the kind of seriously overplaying a hand that got Clinton re-elected in 96.  And Gingrich had a stronger hand than Boehner does, since the GOP won the Senate as well as the House in 94.  Unless and until actual Conservatives, not just GOP members, have 218 House votes and 60 Senate ones locked up solid, that's all just wet dream stuff.  And getting those kind of majorities just is not going to happen, with 50% of the population paying no net income taxes and a 'ruling class' of Ivy League old boys (and their money) aligned much more with social liberal values than conservative ones.

[GOP Congress]

Large talk, but that's also the kind of seriously overplaying a hand that got Clinton re-elected in 96.

I disagree. Bigtime.

The "overplaying of a hand" was because the conservatives CAVED in '95 to the democrats/socialists AND the media. The democrats caused the budget crisis, promptly blamed the republicans, knowing full well that the media would come to their aid. With this type of pressure, the republicans caved in, allowing Clinton to take the upper hand (who re-positioned himself, falsely, as a centrist), and easily beat out RINO Dole.

But we have a different paradigm. We have a president who is NOT showing ANY signs of moving to the right. In addition, the media landscape has significantly changed to the point where, for all intents and purposes, show no sign of swaying major undecideds in the near future.

Finally: I get SICK and TIRED to Congress/politics in general being refered to as a "match of wits" or any sort of game. This is not a freakin' reality show where posturing is important. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY'S STAKE IN THE BALANCE.

As far as "wet dream stuff": I really don't know how to respond, other than the fact that our biggest fear is not from the hard left's positions, but from those ostensibly on "our" side, but whose votes help the socialists more. Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, and other socialists did NOT set the stage for this country's hard position. The RINO's, more than any other group in recent history, are pragmatically more guilty, because they hide their socialist tendencies in the (R) brand.

"Large words?" Fine. I will never be a congressman. But I am probably more qualified to be one than 80% of the existing managerie.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I saw how treating a simple majority as an overpowering mandate played out in 95/96, we finished with getting our ears pinned back, and a slow but steady slide to losing control of Congress completely in 2006 began.

Think whatever you want, it's a free country.  Problem with what you're saying is the vast majority of the people casting votes to fill those Congressional seats aren't line-of-death absolutists, and they actually expect the people they send to DC to talk to each other and accomplish the random thing or two instead of glaring at each other from facing fortifications for two years at a whack.  Deep in their weasely little survival-oriented hearts, the 80% of Congress you despise also knows damn' well that the absolutists aren't anywhere near the majority of the voters they have to keep happy to get re-elected in their own States and Districts. 

[GOP Congress]

If you are right, then this country is absolutely f'd. I cannot say it any other way. While certain semantics can be negotiated, the core issues must be gutted out, and what you are saying is that aspect cannot be possible. That I disagree with, simply because if you are right, then this country is done.

In the meantime, turn on Rush. He is pretty much expanding on my own thoughts verbatim as I type this.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I do like what the Senate minority is doing right now, thing is it doesn't work as an MO for two years, it works for an explainable short-term tactical objective like the tax cuts.

And I think we ARE f*cked in the long term if we continue with half or more of the voting population paying no net income tax.  When you get to the point that a majority of the electorate doesn't have a dog in the fight about who's going to pay for all their entitlements and handouts, you're teetering on the edge of a precipice and sitting on a Hellbound toboggan.

[true_blood]

Hi,

I sure hope they are listening to Carl Rove.  Last night on Greta's show he basically outlined the strategy.  You pass bills in congress that the majority of the public are n favor of, like making the Bush tax cuts permanent.  Then the president has a problem.  He can veto it but he really is in a pickle if he does.

Rove also asked a question.

Why is it this lame duck congress with virtually two weeks to go is working on gays in the military, immigration, spending a week on some food law when people want them to get the economy fixed and create jobs???  They have yet to pass a budget resolution, much less a budget, the public is on edge about 2011 taxes yet they are continuing to push their liberal, communist social agenda.  He suggested that congress extend the Bush tax cuts for three months to get into next years session then they have three months to deal with it in the new congress.

If there ever was a clear signal as to what the BO agenda is, along with Pelosi and the other commies, it is what they are trying to do in this lame duck session.  They are trying to cram down more unpopular legislation, governing against the will of the people, with no concern about jobs and American families.  2012 cannot arrive here soon enough.  Let's only hope the RINO's continue to get their ass kicked and more good conservatives continue to arrive on the scene.

regards,
5412

BINGO! Especially the part in red. H5.