Mr. Dorkio: Conspiracy Theorist

[dandi]

The Somali bomber incident was a set-up....to either make us fear terror.... or give us confidence that the gubmint is protecting us....or something.

MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 03:26 AM
Original message
FBI's COINTELPRO op does not cause car bomb explosion in Oregon
   
The FBI uses a nutcase to put themselves in the catbird seat with a fake government assisted "terrorist" attack. Your tax dollars at work.

Teen suspected of trying to set off bomb at Oregon tree-lighting event

By the CNN Wire Staff
November 27, 2010 2:28 a.m. EST


(CNN) -- A 19-year-old has been arrested in connection with a plot to detonate a vehicle bomb at an annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Oregon, on Friday evening, the Justice Department announced.

Mohamed Osman Mohamud, a naturalized U.S. citizen from Somalia, was arrested on suspicion of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction.

Mohamud was arrested by the FBI and Portland Police Bureau after he attempted to detonate what he believed to be an explosives-laden van that was parked near the tree-lighting ceremony in Portland's Pioneer Courthouse Square, the Justice

Department said in a written statement, but the device was actually inert.

"The threat was very real. Our investigation shows that Mohamud was absolutely committed to carrying out an attack on a very grand scale," said Arthur Balizan, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in Oregon. "At the same time, I want to reassure the people of this community that, at every turn, we denied him the ability to actually carry out the attack."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/27/oregon.bomb.plot /

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x302466

Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 03:29 AM
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1. He was an unwitting actor in their very own plot
   
albeit willing too n/t

Okay. What?

cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 03:34 AM
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3. OMFG...THAT'S UNDER A MILE AND A HALF FROM HERE !!!!!!
   
TERRA TERRA TERRA!!!!!

Sure glad they didn't blow up the ****ing strip clubs.....

Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:28 PM
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24. FEAR, FEAR! TERRA, TERRA! HIDE THE CHILDREN!!! OBEY YOUR BETTERS!!!
   
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 04:28 PM by Odin2005
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA!

earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:33 PM
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25. Doncha know that EVERY batshit crazy insane person is a Muslim terra-ist?!
   
Aren't they teaching that LIE in every school now? :eyes:

No, quite a few end up posting at DU. Though Muslim terrorist and DUer aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

To be fair, some take Dorkio to task over his statement, though if GWB was still the Prez I'm sure they'd be jumping on his bandwagon:

Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:41 PM
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28. Hey Orwell: I know a lot of families with acutal children who were at that thing
   
as opposed to imaginary props in whatever battle with totalitarianism you believe this represents.

As far as I can tell, this individual was fully ready to detonate a large bomb with the intent of killing large numbers of people. Including families with little kids.

Did the "fear fear terra terra" machine force him to repeatedly affirm his intent to carry out this act? No.

Is whatever axe you're grinding more important than acknowledging that, in this case, the powers-that-be got one right? You decide.

Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:59 PM
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53. The guy was already reaching out to Pakistani contacts.
   
Stepping in and pulling a sting operation on someone already engaged in a search for a weapon isn't entrapment at all.

Now if the kid were just some random Somali teen walking down the street with his iPod cranked and the Feds rolled up and said "Hey, want a bomb?" then you might have a complaint. This little filthbag was out to commit mayhem on people and skilled law enforcement neutralized him as a threat.

This should be a model for what we want the feds doing, not something we sit around and get all bitchy about.

Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:54 PM
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48. Sorry
   
just not feeling the outrage, over here.

Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Nov-27-10 04:40 PM
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26. the little "Terra terra" thing stopped being cute a long time ago.
   
It's not original and adds precisely zero to any discussion. It's the equivalent of a five-year-old shouting dirty words because he's looking for a reaction from Mommy. I know for a fact you're much smarter than that.

Thank you. I agree with the bolded part. The last sentence, not so much.
   

[Happy Fun Ball]

FEAR, FEAR! TERRA, TERRA! HIDE THE CHILDREN!!! OBEY YOUR BETTERS!!!
FEAR, FEAR! GLOBAL WARMING, GLOBAL WARMING! ABORT THE CHILDREN!!! OBEY AL GORE!!!

[txradioguy]

LOL! Man can I predict it or WHAT?

I'm going with "he was a lone amateur and this is just designed to keep everyone scared" meme in 3...2...1...

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,51897.msg577349.html#msg577349

[BlueStateSaint]

LOL! Man can I predict it or WHAT?

Even though I should BS you for arrogance and pompousity, I H5ed you for being correct.

[true_blood]

cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-27-10 03:34 AM
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3. OMFG...THAT'S UNDER A MILE AND A HALF FROM HERE !!!!!! TERRA TERRA TERRA!!!!!
Sure glad they didn't blow up the ****ing strip clubs.....

And yet, the DUmmy still regrets/fails to see the threat here in America. It's all a big game till one of their loved ones gets killed or injured till their eyes and brains open up to the truth. Also, nothing about how many people could have been killed/injured that day. The stupid is strong over there.

[crockspot]

Thankfully, some of them get it over there. Unfortunately, those who don't get it still get to vote.

[USA4ME]

MrScorpio

66. Exactly... 

The FBI has been using agent provocateurs, moles and phony ops like these for decades. It's ingrained deep within its bureaucracy.

"Look at us, we're keeping you safe from all of those dangers out in the world."

And the people just fall for it like suckers, handing over their freedom and liberty to the National Security State.

Wow, I didn't know the boy primitive was a conspiracy theory kook.

MrScorpio

71. Warren, I'm sure that you're quite familiar with the FBI's long history of running COINTELPRO ops... 

Right?

And how this incident in Oregon has fallen directly in this pattern. Your own defensive reaction is proof positive about how effective they are are to get people in this country to fall into a fear mode with willingness to gleefully hand over their freedoms and liberties to a bureaucratic National Security State.

Of course, they had EVERY right to keep their eyes on this nutcase to see if he'd actually do something. But, let's say they DIDN'T provide him with a phony car bomb and lots of encouragement to use it... What if he did nothing except mouth off? What "danger" would the guy present then? Minimal, of course.

But the FBI couldn't take the risk that an investigation of this guy could go nowhere. How would if make the FBI look good if it never went anywhere?

So the FBI does what the FBI does best... The sting, with lot's and lots of tape with the crackpot saying lots of violent things like what you just quoted.

For one, I'm glad that the nut's off the streets and I'm sure that he's going to get a conviction and long sentence in a Federal Pen. However, I know what the FBI's game is in propping up threats and taking them down in a campaign to make the FBI look great. Shit like this has been going on since the Hoover days, even that old FBI TV show was nothing more than a propaganda snow job for the Bureau.

You, my friend, can celebrate another one of their snow jobs, but I, on the other hand, prefer to call a spade a spade.

I agree, the boy primitive is definately a spade.

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