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Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« on: November 25, 2010, 10:25:35 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AN5HL20101124



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(Reuters) - Classified U.S. diplomatic cables reporting corruption allegations against foreign governments and leaders are expected in official documents that WikiLeaks plans to release soon, sources said on Wednesday.

The whistle-blowing website said on its Twitter feed this week its next release would be seven times larger than the collection of roughly 400,000 Pentagon reports related to the Iraq war which it made public in October.

Three sources familiar with the State Department cables held by WikiLeaks say the corruption allegations in them are major enough to cause serious embarrassment for foreign governments and politicians named in them.
comment section a interesting read.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 02:42:43 PM »
Mayber shitting all over the State Dept's dirty laundry will get attention the way dumping on DOD doesn't.  Kind of ironic they're so incensed avout corruption, really, since Wikileaks depends on people subverting and violating legal controls on the information they handle and pass to it.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 06:12:34 PM »
I still think there should be a hit on the wikileaks founder/operator.

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 07:43:22 PM »
I still think there should be a hit on the wikileaks founder/operator.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 01:30:46 PM »
WikiLeak Drop Shows U.S. Fighting Increasingly Chaotic Global Relations

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/28/wikileak-drop-shows-fighting-increasingly-chaotic-global-relations/#ixzz16bfF1yNE


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Some of the diplomatic papers stolen from the State Department and leaked Sunday by Wikileaks show more than just potentially embarrassing revelations about U.S. views of allies but disturbing developments among alleged friends as well as foes and competitive states.

The details from the cables being released -- among 250,000 illegally taken from secret State Department records -- include discussions on the U.S. being unable to stop Syrian arms to Hezbollah, its disappointment in Qatar to stop funding terrorism and hacking by the Chinese government of U.S. computers


We all know what is going on here? 0 and his bunch could stop this, they want to destroy this country. What do you think?


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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 06:20:54 PM »
WikiLeak Drop Shows U.S. Fighting Increasingly Chaotic Global Relations

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/28/wikileak-drop-shows-fighting-increasingly-chaotic-global-relations/#ixzz16bfF1yNE

 We all know what is going on here? 0 and his bunch could stop this, they want to destroy this country. What do you think?

I think ASS-ange is playing our Adminstration's deer-in-the-headlights incompetence to make us look like total putzes.  Evil putzes as he sees it, but putzes nonetheless.  I also think that there's a certain potential for the more evil members of the same Administration to use this as a vehicle to clamp down on the Web and First Amendment rights instead of actually pursuing Wikileaks and the leakers who fed the bastard the traffic.   
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 06:24:07 PM »
Maybe the imposter occupying the White House, will go on "another" White House Apology tour? :fuelfire:

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 09:24:12 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AN5HL20101124


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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »
I think ASS-ange is playing our Adminstration's deer-in-the-headlights incompetence to make us look like total putzes.  Evil putzes as he sees it, but putzes nonetheless.  I also think that there's a certain potential for the more evil members of the same Administration to use this as a vehicle to clamp down on the Web and First Amendment rights instead of actually pursuing Wikileaks and the leakers who fed the bastard the traffic.   

Tanker, this is all too convenient for us if I may say, Verrrrry strange.

Were not these documents the same stuff that a very young military man was accused of stealing months ago ??

If so, then not only our top government knew about the documents months ago, but so did the NYT and a few foreign papers.

What kind of security do we have that allows EYES ONLY stuff to be found just laying about waiting to be found.      AHA-as I write Fox news is asking the same questions as I do.

It is incomprehensible for me to  follow this interesting state of affairs as is spoken by those who speak for the country.

 Did we not go through this whole thing when a CIA operative was outted by her own government----Innocents will die, the blood of men woman and children will flow in the streets---from the left.  From the right--Chill out this woman didn't know notting"

Now just moments ago Fox interview this Bozo who when asked if The USA has any role in allowing these documents  to be un guarded from prying eyes answered-----" In no way, just because a bank forgets to lock it's doors does not give anyone the right to rob them."       WTF-- no personal responsibility from the Bank.??

So far I smell a RAT, I cannot believe our Government would not go all out to keep these documents from being released to the public unless for some reason it would benefit us in some way. So far The only embarrassment to come out of this is for the double dealing back stabbing leaders in other parts of the globe.

This will blow over and we the public will suffer more rules for internet use etc. and the people that left the bank unlocked will walk and those that stole the money will be given probation.

Hillbilly is speaking now, nothing I would not expect from a Lawyer to excuse the conduct of people who leave the keys in their cars and a 14 year old steals the car and kills a family of 5.

It is said that the Government has the technology to shut down the Wiki site, so if this true why did we not do this months ago.????

Why did the most powerful country in the world sit back and with the ability to stop --nip this in the bud did not do so ????

  Will we now censor our news papers, TV and cable news, talk shows on radio??


Not only do I smell a rat but I also smell 4 day old fish.

 

 

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 01:02:21 PM »
Tanker, blaa blaa blaa...

 

 :thatsright: Geez. You are a ****ing idiot.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 01:08:12 PM »
:thatsright: Geez. You are a ****ing idiot.

Did you just now figure that out?  :thatsright:

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 01:11:05 PM »
Did you just now figure that out?  :thatsright:

He's an army crunchie.  I hear tell they're slow learners. :bolt:
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 01:22:43 PM »
Tanker, this is all too convenient for us if I may say, Verrrrry strange.

Were not these documents the same stuff that a very young military man was accused of stealing months ago ??

Vesta, you may be right in smelling a rat since there are more wheels within wheels than a Swiss watch with a planetary transmission involved here, but your premise about why goes off the rails on that bolded point. 

The stuff the young scumball bound for Leavenworth gave up was all operational military stuff form DOD, which actually does directly endanger lives since it reveals countermeasures, reaction drills, etc., for which the military currently uses the acronym TTP&E, for 'Tactics, techniques, procedures, and equipment.'  The stuff in the documents the little dirtbag compromised was chock full of the kind of information that would definitely get Soldiers and Marines on the ground killed shortly after the information went public because the jihadis would alter their own TTP&E to defeat our countermeasures, and American troops would definitely be killed in the process of going through another generation of measure-countermeasure warfare.  The NY Slimes, MSM, and the Oministration just didn't seem all that upset at the prospect of dead Soldiers and Marines over and above their chance to muckrake the military, though.

The current release is not DOD operational information, it is Department of State diplomatic traffic.  Actually almost nobody's life is directly endangered by it, although it represents a huge embarassment to high rollers like ambassadors, senior Cabinet officials (One in particular), the President, the friends and supporters of same who actually own or run the MSM, and the foreign high-rollers who pal around with them.  To an extent it does do us some harm in dealing with foreign sources since it shows our communications security is for shit and they can't count on anything they tell us remaining non-public, but at the same time, it's not getting anyone killed right away.  However, the embarassment of having a bunch of scandalous diplomatic traffic, opinion, and snooping attributed to real people is now the most horrible offense against national security imaginable.  All of this sort of traffic, by the way, goes on in the diplomatic 'secure' communications of every other country in the world, so the fact that candid things are said in them is not exactly going to be an earthshaking surprise for any of the people being talked about, though a lot of them may be pissed off about it...but make no mistake, what they'll be pissed off about is that it was made public, they're not going to be shocked that our diplomats said those mean things about them in the first place.       
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 03:09:00 PM »
Vesta, you may be right in smelling a rat since there are more wheels within wheels than a Swiss watch with a planetary transmission involved here, but your premise about why goes off the rails on that bolded point. 

The stuff the young scumball bound for Leavenworth gave up was all operational military stuff form DOD, which actually does directly endanger lives since it reveals countermeasures, reaction drills, etc., for which the military currently uses the acronym TTP&E, for 'Tactics, techniques, procedures, and equipment.'  The stuff in the documents the little dirtbag compromised was chock full of the kind of information that would definitely get Soldiers and Marines on the ground killed shortly after the information went public because the jihadis would alter their own TTP&E to defeat our countermeasures, and American troops would definitely be killed in the process of going through another generation of measure-countermeasure warfare.  The NY Slimes, MSM, and the Oministration just didn't seem all that upset at the prospect of dead Soldiers and Marines over and above their chance to muckrake the military, though.

The current release is not DOD operational information, it is Department of State diplomatic traffic.  Actually almost nobody's life is directly endangered by it, although it represents a huge embarassment to high rollers like ambassadors, senior Cabinet officials (One in particular), the President, the friends and supporters of same who actually own or run the MSM, and the foreign high-rollers who pal around with them.  To an extent it does do us some harm in dealing with foreign sources since it shows our communications security is for shit and they can't count on anything they tell us remaining non-public, but at the same time, it's not getting anyone killed right away.  However, the embarrassment of having a bunch of scandalous diplomatic traffic, opinion, and snooping attributed to real people is now the most horrible offense against national security imaginable.  All of this sort of traffic, by the way, goes on in the diplomatic 'secure' communications of every other country in the world, so the fact that candid things are said in them is not exactly going to be an earthshaking surprise for any of the people being talked about, though a lot of them may be pissed off about it...but make no mistake, what they'll be pissed off about is that it was made public, they're not going to be shocked that our diplomats said those mean things about them in the first place.       

Tanker, it has for years bothered me about the way we handle security.  There are some really bad leaks that come about with the double standard of lax security.

Ask Sparky about the security for the nuclear Subs, very closed and hush hush, yet I working as a bar maid knew when the boats would arrive in port before the family's of the crew did.

That dude that was a radio operater on a sub, I think his name was Jonny Walker that sold information on the Subs movements--Hard to keep track of the names of the people caught from selling out our country.

We have all these rules in place, " Loose lips sink ships"  yet no one takes this seriously in today's world.

The people we need to watch, those that are at the O club every night, the Chiefs that are drunks and talk to anyone, even down to the cook on the boats that know before the crew when they will sail due to the amount of food stocked and the knowledge of how long it will last is ignored.

We had no problems with Rickover, today we have no one to put the fear of hell into our officers or crew. 

I still smell a rat, and it the smell goes into the pentagon as our military is full of the brass that just walks on egg shell until they can retire.

We need to stop this crap of the military bowing to and expecting a job after retirement with those in politics. You know how it Goes to make another star, the brass has to have a good relationship with Congress and the Senate..

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 04:08:51 PM »
There Is Nothing New Under the Wikileaks Sun

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Having spent much of the past 24 hours going through the State Department documents released by Wikileaks I can honestly say the most amazing revelation is the lack of revelations in the documents. Not that it isn’t shocking to see some of these reports in black and white, but most of the Wikileaks “bombshells” are simply confirmation of news reports discussed here, the other “Big” sites, on my blog The Lid, or other sites,  many times before. Here are some examples of the “old news”:

    * Arab states see Iran as a danger:  The revelation that Israel is not the only nation in the Middle East suggesting that the “head of the snake” be cut off is nothing close to new. Even the fact that other nations in the Middle East want nuclear technology because Iran has been closing in on the nuclear weapons are have been discussed before. I would also note that the James Baker meme (subscribed to by Obama and Hillary Clinton) that solving the Iran problem is linked to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was totally destroyed by the Wikileaks release. There was not one mention of “linkage” by an Arab state in the released cables.

    * North Korea is supplying missiles to Iran: Iran obtained 19 of the missiles from North Korea, according to a cable dated Feb. 24 of this year. Again this is old news. We also know that North Korea built a nuclear reactor in the Syrian desert.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 07:22:26 PM »
I love how those in the administration are like, these people will be "charged and dealt" with.  :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: ::)
I got a better idea for pieces of garbage that commit treason or put American troops/citizens at risk. Line'en up against the wall. Firing squad. Done.

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 09:28:18 PM »
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What kind of security do we have that allows EYES ONLY stuff to be found just laying about waiting to be found.      AHA-as I write Fox news is asking the same questions as I do.

Ok first off...this stuff wasn't just "laying around" you dolt.

If you'd actually READ how exactly Private First Class Bradley manning was able to access these documents then you'd actually have a clue as to what you're talking about.

He was an soldier in the Intel Branch.  He had the security clearances to access this stuff on the DoD top secret computer nets.

For what ever ****ed up reason he decided to violate a myriad of U.S. laws....DoD policies an Army Regulations...he did it.  He had the proper access to the places where this stuff was.  And what he couldn't get at automatically...he asked around on how to get to it.  Including reaching out to the hacking world.

So this shit wasn't just "laying around" as you said.  It took someone of his MOS and the willingness to turn on his country to do this.


DaT...in actuality what got this puke busted WAS his bragging about having the State Department Cables.  He made the boast to a hacker in IIRC Portland who...having been busted by the Feds previously on hacking charges and not desiring to have them kick in his door again...told them about Manning and helped in the sting that got him arrested.  At one point Manning hinted that he had gotten help from people at WikiLeaks on how to find ways around the firewalls to get this info.

Julian Assange is an egomaniacal jackass that needs to be brought to justice in the swiftest and hopefully painful way we can as soon as possible.

If it can be proven that the Taliban have murdered anyone that has helped us here BECAUSE of what Manning stole from DoD computers...then he should have the charge of treason and the charge of premeditated murder added to those already pending against him.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2010, 08:40:31 AM »
Ok first off...this stuff wasn't just "laying around" you dolt.

If you'd actually READ how exactly Private First Class Bradley manning was able to access these documents then you'd actually have a clue as to what you're talking about.

He was an soldier in the Intel Branch.  He had the security clearances to access this stuff on the DoD top secret computer nets.

For what ever ****ed up reason he decided to violate a myriad of U.S. laws....DoD policies an Army Regulations...he did it.  He had the proper access to the places where this stuff was.  And what he couldn't get at automatically...he asked around on how to get to it.  Including reaching out to the hacking world.

So this shit wasn't just "laying around" as you said.  It took someone of his MOS and the willingness to turn on his country to do this.


DaT...in actuality what got this puke busted WAS his bragging about having the State Department Cables.  He made the boast to a hacker in IIRC Portland who...having been busted by the Feds previously on hacking charges and not desiring to have them kick in his door again...told them about Manning and helped in the sting that got him arrested.  At one point Manning hinted that he had gotten help from people at WikiLeaks on how to find ways around the firewalls to get this info.

Julian Assange is an egomaniacal jackass that needs to be brought to justice in the swiftest and hopefully painful way we can as soon as possible.

If it can be proven that the Taliban have murdered anyone that has helped us here BECAUSE of what Manning stole from DoD computers...then he should have the charge of treason and the charge of premeditated murder added to those already pending against him.

Thank you for the bit of information, we as civilians and even those in politics have little knowledge of the  doing in our different service's pecking order etc.

Unfortunately most of us have been Hollywooded to our expection of our military.   We sit in shock to hear when a service man or woman turn coats us.  We sit listening to all the damage they have done to us and wait for them to be dealt with harshly, --hung or shot.

Here comes the kicker, outside of imprisonment with 3 squares a day, all the insane people that write them fan letters, more people interested in them then when they were on the outside, and the really weird fact at how little they were paid to sell out their country, these traitors become folk hero's to others with the same mind set.  And They are alive to enjoy their notoriety and fame as a SPY.

Oh how exciting, notes and information left at drop offs, midnight meetings and skulking about .

If you think I am off the rails here,  on this, one of DC's favorite site to visit is the SPY museum containing the most interesting collection of divices used in the last 100 years.  There is even a replica of James Bond's car to inspect.
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We have glamorised the life of a SPY, check out the Russian woman that was found and sent home to a hero's welcome and now is somekind of celebrity in her country.

Mind you She is a glamorous woman, had she looked like someones grandma, well we would never hear about her again.

Foreign SPYS are one thing, but, American citizens that turn against their country for money or fame need to end their carear at the end of a rope, televised and done in the middle of a large stadium full of people that are willing to pay $500.00 bucks for a seat.

Not just the SPY, but his direct supervisors and those that ignored the accessibility to what ever they are stealing.


We are at firkin WAR, if commanders are held responsible for the actions of those under them, like the captain of a ship is responsible if the cook gives the crew food poisoning or his officers are lax, just threaten their retirement and wake up the watch dogs that are sleeping.

With super secret files are stolen by someone Hang him and the supervisors that ignored the warning signs, low ranking people that own expensive homes or cars,  those that hang out at the serviceman's clubs talking to those only in their field.

I have a darn good reason for feeling this way.   We had a retired Officer that haunted the O club at Portsmouth VA. and he was a radio operator on the subs. --He socialised with everyone but he spent most of his time with active duty Radio men.  A good old boy who had a son and daughter in the Navy.  Few noticed that he spent little time at home, he hopped from club to club ---a good old boy.

He hung out with the Chiefs on the different boats who were in Radio positsion, no one noticed as he seldom drank and was up for golf with anyone in the radio field.

It was his daughter and wife that turned him in when he refused to support the wife and drove about in an expensive car.  Dumb shit could have got away with his traderest  actions had he used his head and supported the wife.
 
What damage did he do---- he supplied a foreign country with all the movements of our SSBN on both coast.  His son on an aircraft in an office position let his dad know about their ships moveme

Damn we never know who is the Enemy, the monster or only the Shadow knows what lives in a persons heart.

We spent years having the gay servicemen and woman tracked , that time spent on a a real and serious problem finding the rats that are the actual real and present danger to our country was of more benefit.

I hate this man, my kids father was on a boomer at the time he started his for money and must have having fun and expecting money , also  been having fun to break up the boreoom, a threat to all the men aboard the subs.   He put the sub service in grave danger.  He was a punk that had to be doing this for the fun and excitement's told he received less then $100,000 in all the years he sold us out. little money to receive over 5-10 years . 

All this has to interest the people that want to be part of the Spy circle, those that need money and enjoy the excitement of living a double life.  Not a great amount of money to pay for information that can kill and destroy our Military, we are not talking of Millions of dollars for the information.

DRAMA, midnight calls, drop offs, secret symbols left on buildings or phone poles----- there is no belief or feeling of a freedom fighter---this is just a plain old fun and a small amount of money for some people.

Singapore, we need to call in the the people that rule that place.   Call in the floggers that are the punishers of those that threaten us.

Yes I know this is a fact of history from the past, the town whipping post, the stocks and what not to publically shame those that break the law.------Hang the tradertors and beat the hell out of the supervisors that gave a **** to what their people were doing.

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2010, 08:43:26 AM »
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2010, 08:52:16 AM »
DaT...in actuality what got this puke busted WAS his bragging about having the State Department Cables. 

I stand corrected, I saw some reference to this on the news last night and I have to say I'm appalled that a low-level MI puke could have access to sensitive Dept. of State traffic.  Considering how often-useless and slow the many layers of security and nannyware have made the NIPRNet, it's almost inconceivable that the SIPR sysadmins would establish a system that worked that way, but apparently they did.  It is also possible, of course, that Manning is being pinned to take the fall for all leaks, when he might not really be the only source, since that would be in the PR damage-control interests of the Feds.   
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2010, 09:13:42 AM »
I think ASS-ange is playing our Adminstration's deer-in-the-headlights incompetence to make us look like total putzes.  Evil putzes as he sees it, but putzes nonetheless.  I also think that there's a certain potential for the more evil members of the same Administration to use this as a vehicle to clamp down on the Web and First Amendment rights instead of actually pursuing Wikileaks and the leakers who fed the bastard the traffic.   

Of course!  Does anyone here SERIOUSLY believe that had they wanted, they could have put a DoS or simply pulled down Wikileaks regardless of where their servers are located?  Hell, they can pull down file-sharing sites but they're powerless against this?

Yes, they think we ARE that stupid.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2010, 09:16:46 AM »
I stand corrected, I saw some reference to this on the news last night and I have to say I'm appalled that a low-level MI puke could have access to sensitive Dept. of State traffic.  Considering how often-useless and slow the many layers of security and nannyware have made the NIPRNet, it's almost inconceivable that the SIPR sysadmins would establish a system that worked that way, but apparently they did.  It is also possible, of course, that Manning is being pinned to take the fall for all leaks, when he might not really be the only source, since that would be in the PR damage-control interests of the Feds.   

And you just KNOW it's going to get orders of magnitude WORSE for those in and out of DoD for anyone with digital storage media of any kind--or with the POTENTIAL to be DSM.

Lady Gaga CD's?  Seriously?  And nobody was keeping a SERIOUS eye on this butt-pirate based on that alone?
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2010, 01:29:05 PM »
I hear the Wikileaks have it's sights set on one of the major banks next.

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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2010, 02:43:31 PM »
And you just KNOW it's going to get orders of magnitude WORSE for those in and out of DoD for anyone with digital storage media of any kind--or with the POTENTIAL to be DSM.

Lady Gaga CD's?  Seriously?  And nobody was keeping a SERIOUS eye on this butt-pirate based on that alone?

He was low man on the totem pole working the overnight shift in the TOC.  EVERY private that pulls that shits bitches and is unhappy.

IMO didn't notice because they were probably trying to keep their overloaded switches from frying because like here they are running about 10x more clients on each switch/server than they are designed for.  Or if they are like some of the ones I know...they could be looking right at what Manning was doing and the light wouldn't blink on in their head.

You are spot on about how it's about to get harder for those of us that use digital media in our everyday mission.
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Re: Exclusive: Corruption charges to feature in WikiLeaks release
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2010, 04:20:30 PM »
You are spot on about how it's about to get harder for those of us that use digital media in our everyday mission.

Oh yeh.  Already getting messages on that one.
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