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Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« on: November 23, 2010, 08:29:28 PM »
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Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
   
I have, shall we say, a *friend* who is doing a few weekends for a DUI conviction. He not only has to pay for his parole officer, which we were aware of, but now also $40 for every day he spends in jail.

I don't expect you to have sympathy for him,but I do think it speaks to the overall state of the Prison Industrial Complex.

Just to let you know...

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I got a DUI in 1997 and I have zero sympathy for him. I paid a shit ton of money and guess what? It got my attention. So maybe if he has to pay for this it will get his attention too.

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1. This is what happens when taxes are slashed too drastically
   
And if he can't pay for his incarceration, what does the jail do? Turn him over to a collection agency? If he can't pay the collectors, does he go back to jail?

Boggles the mind, it does...

Better him paying for it than innocent tax payers.



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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2010, 08:44:14 PM »
To the DUmmies, the criminals are the real victims of our justice system.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2010, 08:56:47 PM »
My step sister has gotten more than a couple DUI's, been to jail a couple of times for extended periods of time, in and out of the hospital for detox and broken bones from being a drunk and falling. She is currently in the hospital being detoxed, she has lost her husband (he is remarried with two young children), her kids don't want anything to do with her and her daughter is well on her way to being just like her mother, she had a nursing license which she lost after her first DUI, her mother died two years ago from alcoholism, can't get or keep a job now and I don't feel sorry for her anymore.  I am past feeling sorry for her, it is now disgust.  

If I don't feel sorry for her, I sure as shit don't feel sorry for your "friend" who has to pay for his jail time from a DUI.  It's his fault and he should have to pay for it, ALL of it.  
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2010, 09:00:44 PM »
....and another thing. One of her DUI's resulting in jail time she ran a mother and her daughter off the road. She would have hit them head on if the mother didn't swerve to miss her. The mother hit a guard rail, totaling her car.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 09:04:51 PM »
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Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
Tough shit.

Here come da judge.  :tazeme:
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 09:07:01 PM »
Absolutely no sympathy for the "friend."

He's taking time and resources away from other projects and from people who could use a hand through no fault of their own.  $40/day?  Cry me a river.  That doesn't begin to cover the cost of having to jail him.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 09:16:01 PM »
Our idiots who run Dane County actually pay the bail out of the tax payer's pot to get criminals out on parole.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 09:29:35 PM »
And I care why?

Why should I have to pay for another person's punishment?  I didn't commit the crime.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 09:35:44 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on November 23, 2010, 09:29:35 PM
And I care why?

Why should I have to pay for another person's punishment?  I didn't commit the crime.

Where is your sympathy for these poor victims of our cruel society?  Surely you can see that making them pay for their own room and board is unjust.






















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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 10:00:14 PM »
I got a DUI in 1997 and I have zero sympathy for him. I paid a shit ton of money and guess what? It got my attention. So maybe if he has to pay for this it will get his attention too.Oh yes! Here in the mitten there are signs all over that read"Drunk Driving...You can't afford it!" 7-10 grand in fines and attorney fees before you get your license back! ....doubled  when you blow over .13  I believe! This state really sticks it in and twists it!
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 11:37:49 PM »
Almost twenty years ago, my father said that if he got pulled over for a DWI he would shoot the officer as the penalties were less.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 11:38:52 PM »
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13. They're coming for the middle class next
   



They've just about tapped out all the poor people. The ones too poor and weak to fight back.

You want to see something scary, sorry and sad, spend a little time in the Franklin County, TN General Sessions Court. We call it "HeeHaw meets the Spanish Inquisition" around here. (Another friend says it reminds him of the bar scene in Star Wars)

It's like a TV show set, with lawyers and probation officers walking around chonking gum on the "stage," blurting out rude comments to the defendants, the DA pitching hissy fits like a Palin offspring, and a "chorus" of nosy government mother****ers from DCS, etc., who have no business spending taxpayer money sitting on their asses for most of the cases, but who HAVE to fillup on gossip and enjoy the *******ed show.

It's a ****ing disgrace. And the "defendants?" Mostly poor, disabled, not a pot to piss in, scared, no decent counsel, herded like dogs to the clerks where they pay exhorbitant court fees...I could go on.

It makes me sick every time I have to go there, to see how they treat the least of these. Especially when I know the DA is a "churchgoing man" - who'd turn Jesus into a felon , in my opinion, if it made his dick hard that day. If that man knows the meaning of "mercy" or "forgiveness," I'm the ****ing queen of England. ( A retired priest who attends the same church as the DA told me once, when I was in tears about the cruelty of the DA, "Child, you just have to name that evil" = and he looked straight at the DA, we were all in a coffeeshop - "name that evil, call it the disgrace it is and let it go. But the naming of it helps you define it and deal with it." The fact that that priest seemed to know this guy's evil was very telling to me....

His victims are the poor and downtrodden.

But next, they come for you middle class folk. It's a "growth industry" and the only way they can "grow" is to criminalize more and more stuff, or to totally do away with any privacy or fourth amendment shred of a right you might have left. You'll be the ones in court soon, outraged at the farce of justice modern "court" represents.

Law enforcement these days is all about the $$$$$$ zero about public safety....IMO

On the instant karma note: one of the cops in the Franklin County courthouse was this mean sonofabitch who screamed at everyone. Ugly, ill, no regard for whether you were there on business, with a defendant or plaintiff or a defendant yourself.

"Shut Up!" he'd scream to everyone. Never a kind word, just a pure evil sonofabitch. I wrote down his name once to complain. He stopped screaming after I did that.

But he later ended up dropping dead right there in the courthouse..yeah. Karma is a bitch sometimes. Better watch how you treat people!






How in the heck is this person always in court?  By the way, they have a pot leaf as their profile picture.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 11:53:15 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 23, 2010, 08:44:14 PM
To the DUmmies, the criminals are the real victims of our justice system.

Yup ad they are never really guilty either.  There are always extenuating circumstances (usually tied to some member of the GOP) that caused the person to do what they did.

The only people that DUmmies think belong in jail are you and me for being Conservative.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 04:23:51 AM »
They should be paying for their time. Preferably with hard , dirty and meaningless work. Guards and prisons holiday camps ain't free - "guests" should be required to pay their way.If they don't see it this way they can talk to the whip.

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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 04:59:46 AM »
Like the old saying goes you do the crime you got to do the time
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2010, 05:20:31 AM »
Next thing you know the courts will go around demanding people who are convicted of "re-appropriating" property return said property.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2010, 08:46:35 AM »
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derby378  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Nov-23-10 09:23 PM
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1. This is what happens when taxes are slashed too drastically
   
And if he can't pay for his incarceration, what does the jail do? Turn him over to a collection agency? If he can't pay the collectors, does he go back to jail?

Boggles the mind, it does...

Much better to bugger your "friend" for the cost of his stupidity than the honest taxpayer, DUmbass.

Bet he'll never do it again...
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2010, 01:09:04 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on November 23, 2010, 09:29:35 PM
And I care why? Why should I have to pay for another person's punishment?  I didn't commit the crime.
Yup. :-) You do the crime, you pay your way and do the time. No one put a gun to their heads to commit the crimes.
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2010, 01:31:28 PM »
Hmmm, my sympathy meter doesn't seem to actually be getting any voltage...let me just run a little test here...no, the problem doesn't appear to be in the meter, the sensor, or the wires...
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Re: Was not aware one has to pay for one's prison time now.
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2010, 04:18:44 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 24, 2010, 01:31:28 PM
Hmmm, my sympathy meter doesn't seem to actually be getting any voltage...let me just run a little test here...no, the problem doesn't appear to be in the meter, the sensor, or the wires...
Yea, my "I don't give a shit lithium batteries" seem to be run down.
Shame...
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