Uh oh! TALIBantheGOP is on thin ice

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

BanTheGOP  (483 posts)        Tue Nov-23-10 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Agreed. The US repbublican Party is actually more at fault than North Korea
 The problem that most people don't realize is that North Korea is trying to effect a Chinese solution to the Peninsula, but the entrenched republican capitalist interests has infested South Korea for decades to the point where they are in bed with their own demise. The utter despair and futile hope that North Koreans face each and every day is part and parcel of the republicanist worldwide agenda, and until it is banned, the republican Party must be held fully responsible for all deaths that occurred in this incident. Pure and simple.
Until it is banned, the republican party is, has been, and always will be America's Ultimate Hate Crime Against Humanity.

cowcommander (439 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. ...are you serious?
 Seriously, what the hell? The South Koreans are reasonable, but the North sure as hell isn't!

rayofreason (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Most idiotic....
 ...post I have seen in a while.

Codeine  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. He's a troll.
 That poster makes idiotic statements like that all the time. Presumably from one of those sites that reads every post we make and gleefully repeats it on their own board.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4625924#4626160

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Whoops!

He's got help:

BanTheGOP  (483 posts)        Tue Nov-23-10 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. No biggie... American republicanists are getting their comeuppance
 The only real solution is for the US Military to sheepishly withdraw their troops from the peninsula and let the progressive interests in both North and South Korea to make a cohesive, bonding agreement that will allow for real peace, and real progress to be implemented. The American military exists for one, and ONLY ONE, reason, and that is to advance the cause of the republicanist agenda that diverts resources from the vast majority of humanity to the republicanist, capitalist elite. This needs to stop, and if it takes a decades-long provocation that ends up in a very understandable response from North Korea with relatively feeble firepower against republican Party-backed South Korean troops, so be it.

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Well said. For starters maybe South Korea and the US should stop these Military Drills
 That's what this shelling is in response to. So it really looks like US and SK actions provoked it.

We should pull all our troops out and let North and South Korea unite under whatever style system they choose. Two systems, one country, whatever. Also for all the people acting like we are so much better than North Korea I'd point out that we have a greater percentage of our population in Prison and we don't even have a constitutional guarantee of housing and food, unlike North Korea.

rayofreason (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Stupidly said.
 Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 05:39 PM by rayofreason
So you consider the ruling DPRK dynasty that enforces its rule with the worst kind of Stalinist tactics and which has created a disaster with famine just one outcome to somehow be a potential partner for peace? Some "ProgressiveMajority" that supports the worst rule by a handful of oligarchs.

And your statement that the DPRK provides a constitutional guarantee of housing and food, unlike North Korea. is idiotic to the extreme. Reminds me of all the of "rights" that were enumerated in the USSR constitution, like freedom of speech!

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Carter considered them partners for peace in 1994, and throughout the 90s!
 Was Carter stupid when he trusted North Korea as partners in peace in 1994? Was Bill Clinton? Not much has changed since than. You honestly sound like Bush with your distrust of North Korea. The fact that sanctions against North Korea prevented enough economic development to feed their own people doesn't mean they can't be reasoned with. And whatever their ability to provide housing and food to all citizens, at least its a stated goal in North Korea, unlike in the US. 

 

rayofreason (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. His mistake.
 Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 05:54 PM by rayofreason
The only answer is for the Kim dynasty to go. And you can believe fairy tales if you like, but the main goal of the DPRK leadership is to continue to rule in high style, and to hell with the people.

You know another group made these claims about "welfare of the people" - the Khmer Rouge. And they committed a democide that slaughter 1/3 of the country.

Tejas (1000+ posts)     Tue Nov-23-10 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. "NK feeble" firepower - obviously clueless is obvious (heavy on the clueless)
 Please, continue, tell us all you know about NK armament and its proximity to Seoul being irrelevant etc. Thank goodness for keyboard kommandos........

 

rayofreason (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. More idiocy.
 Progressive interests in North Korea? The current ruling family and their sycophantic supporters have made that place into the worst hell-hole in the world.

"a very understandable response from North Korea with relatively feeble firepower against republican Party-backed South Korean troops" - Sounds like the kind of crap that appears on the official DPRK news site. Makes for funny reading, those delusional rants an ludicrous accounts of the Kims giving "field guidance.".

What kind of Kool-Aid are you drinking? And who is paying you to drink it?

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. Worst hell hole in the world?? According to whom, the US congress in 2004?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_Human_Rights_...

The Republicans getting together and passing a law hypocritically denouncing North Korean human rights violations doesn't make North Korea the worst hell hole in the world.

And if you're relying on the accounts of defectors, I'd point out they were highly unreliable in the case of Iraq and many other countries. Remember the baby incubator incident in Kuwait (the one that in fact never happened?). Maybe North Korea is pretty bad off, but its a very closed society so we really have no way of knowing for sure. The testimony of defectors from any society whether they come from North Korea or someone like Nonie Darwash is always unreliable because the incentive for a defector (from Islam or North Korea) is to talk up how bad it was.
Teabagging today, terror bombing tomorrow? Right wing hate is not a joke.

rayofreason (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Close your eyes...
 ..to reality. Were you around in 1974? Heard the same thing about the Kampuchean killing fields - "unreliable...defectors with an axe to grind...etc"

Anyone who defends the DPRK and claims to be a real progressive is utterly clueless. The evidence is overwhelming. The DPRK is the worst hellhole on the planet, though Zimbabwe may give it competition.

Hey, you wouldn't happen to be a Mugabe supporter too, would you?

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Well Mugabe was all OK with the west, until he started redistributing white farms
 Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 06:54 PM by ProgressiveMajority
So the real concern on the part of the west when it comes to Mugabe is pretty clear.

There were a number of prominent Democrats in the black congressional caucus that were willing to stand up for Mugabe! They saw what the real issue was. TODAY, He's clearly senile. Anyway there are a number of equally bad leaders who simply didn't make the mistake of going against white people. 

ERetardi and Judi Lynn better come running to the aid of their fellow internationalists.

[txradioguy]

So let me get this straight...the success of Capitalism in the southern part of the Korean peninsula is responsible for the abject poverty being experienced by those in the Communist north?

WTF over?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

So let me get this straight...the success of Capitalism in the southern part of the Korean peninsula is responsible for the abject poverty being experienced by those in the Communist north?

WTF over?

Do we have to spell it out for you?

Capitalists can't make money unless they lift it from the pockets of honest communist workers who would be in paradise were it not for capitalists.

Every failure of communism and every success of capitalism is directly linked to the exploitation of communists by capitalists.

Now, go sit in the corner gulag!

[txradioguy]

The only real solution is for the US Military to sheepishly withdraw their troops from the peninsula and let the progressive interests in both North and South Korea to make a cohesive, bonding agreement that will allow for real peace, and real progress to be implemented.

There is only an over strength brigade and Division headquarters left in Korea as far as land forces go.  And two AF fighter wings.

That's it for the U.S. there.  Less than 30K soldiers total. If we withdraw anymore troops we'll be gone from the peninsula completely.

Oh and as for that "bonding agreement'.

There is a really nice...really expensive building at the Joint Security Area called the reunification building. It's purpose is a neutral site for families seperated since 1950 to reunite...cost millions of dollars to build and it's never been used.

That's because the North refuses to let any of the separated families come there to reunite with their loved ones.

So much for your "bonding" theory you idiot.

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Well said. For starters maybe South Korea and the US should stop these Military Drills
 That's what this shelling is in response to. So it really looks like US and SK actions provoked it.

They were firing the opposite way out into the sea you obtuse jackass.  But hey way to continue to carry on the DU tradition of defending and excusing the actions of any and all third world crack pot dictators no matter what they do.

[Karin]

Here's a guy who will make you want to twist his head off:  He has a Carter avatar;  Every word of this post drips with dangerous stupidity and delusion.  You almost wish the Korean labor camps on him.  Earthworms and grass for dinner, Progmaj?  

ProgressiveMajority (112 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Carter considered them partners for peace in 1994, and throughout the 90s!
 Was Carter stupid when he trusted North Korea as partners in peace in 1994? Was Bill Clinton? Not much has changed since than. You honestly sound like Bush with your distrust of North Korea. The fact that sanctions against North Korea prevented enough economic development to feed their own people doesn't mean they can't be reasoned with. And whatever their ability to provide housing and food to all citizens, at least its a stated goal in North Korea, unlike in the US.  

Throd (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. Yes, that was stupid.
 My stated goal is to have a rainbow shine out my ass every Tuesday morning. Doesn't mean it is ever gonna happen.

ProgMaj and RayofReason get into it over there.  It's too late for PM to have a go at the awards, but may be worth keeping an eye on for next year, should he last.  

[crockspot]

I think it's a lot more likely that there are communist-paid agents posting on DU than any right-wing paid trolls. No conservative group would waste their money that way.

[Revolution]

^ We should really see if we could squeeze BTGOP in, and maybe this DUche bag in:

ProgressiveMajority (111 posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Carter considered them partners for peace in 1994, and throughout the 90s!
Was Carter stupid when he trusted North Korea as partners in peace in 1994?

Yes...yes...1000 times YES!! Because of that jerk off, now we have to deal with the craziest country maybe ever possessing, and having the option to flip the switch on.....NUKES!!

[USA4ME]

Do we have to spell it out for you?

Capitalists can't make money unless they lift it from the pockets of honest communist workers who would be in paradise were it not for capitalists.

Every failure of communism and every success of capitalism is directly linked to the exploitation of communists by capitalists.

Now, go sit in the corner gulag!

Hard to imagine but that's really how they see it.  More often than not, when discussing the hardships and/or atrocities that have happened under communist gov'ts, the commie sympathizers will not call it communism, but rather I hear the phrase "state-sponsored capitalism."

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[DumbAss Tanker]

Carter...stupid...it's an answer in search of a question, really.

[Ballygrl]

Codeine  (1000+ posts)      Tue Nov-23-10 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. He's a troll.
 That poster makes idiotic statements like that all the time. Presumably from one of those sites that reads every post we make and gleefully repeats it on their own board.

Oh my! so they suspect he's a mole?

[Revolution]

^ Maybe not. I'd have figured if they suspected anyone there was a mole except for maybe one person here, they would bring down the hammer automatically.

[blitzkrieg_17]

DU has supported NK for years. So what's the sudden outrage? Skinner took one too many PR hits?

[jukin]

Do we have to spell it out for you?

Capitalists can't make money unless they lift it from the pockets of honest communist workers who would be in paradise were it not for capitalists.

Every failure of communism and every success of capitalism is directly linked to the exploitation of communists by capitalists.

Now, go sit in the corner gulag!

Well played sir, well played.

[Duke Nukum]

I didn't realize that Carter was President, or anything official, in 1994.  Didn't he just kind of show up in hot spots looking for attention?

[txradioguy]

Oh my! so they suspect he's a mole?

IMHO they think EVERYONE is a mole.  They're all so paranoid over there they'd hit the alert button on their own mother.

[GOP Congress]

Well, I know that DUmmie FUnnies highlighted one of his posts when he was celebrating a Democratic WIN in the election.

Yes, you heard right, a Democratic WIN...a BIG win, at that!   

DU Post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x567778

DUmmie Funnies post: http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/2010/11/what-great-night-why-i-am-pumped-to-be.html

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

IMHO they think EVERYONE is a mole.  They're all so paranoid over there they'd hit the alert button on their own mother.

Skinner is probably a mole.

Best to ban him just to be safe.