Muslim barbarity in UK leads to renewed calls to suppress Christians in US

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panzerfaust  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 12:30 PM
Original message
UK students taught how to chop off hands: BBC 
 Source: Sydney Morning Herald (Oz)

Pupils at Islamic schools across Britain are being taught how to chop off a criminal's hand and that Jews are conspiring to take over the world, a BBC investigation has found.

Up to 5000 pupils aged between six and 18 are being taught Sharia law punishments using "weekend-school" text-books which claim those who do not believe in Islam will be subjected to "hellfire" in death...

... "The specified punishment of the thief is cutting off his right hand at the wrist. Then it is cauterised to prevent him from bleeding to death," it added.

Young pupils are warned that the punishment for engaging in homosexual acts is death by stoning, burning with fire or throwing off a cliff and that the "main goal" of the Jews is to "have control over the world and its resources."


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/uk-students-taught-how-to-c...


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It is so heartwarming to see that the Religious Values current in the Twelfth Century are alive and well in the 21st

SkyDaddy7  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
1. AHH YES...I share your warm & fuzzy feeling about Religion in the 21st Century!
 What makes me laugh is to see the Religious Right point to stuff like this and say "Look how barbaric those Muslims are!" when I know if they could they would be doing the same thing just in a different way! The scary part is the Religious Right want a theocracy in the USA so that they can force everyone to live by the evils of Evangelical Christianity. If they were in full control who really thinks they would not be violent toward atheist, agnostics, Liberal Christians, & especially homosexuals! They would literally go "BIBLICAL" on anyone who did not submit to their Bronze Age view of the world!

BigD_95 (570 posts)      Mon Nov-22-10 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. dont put Christians on the same level as these wack jobs
 trust me Im against the Religious Right in a major way but they take it to a whole new level. 

greiner3  (1000+ posts)        Mon Nov-22-10 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. What's that Shakespaerian quote?
 The lady doth protest too much"

TRANSLATION: You're one of them, aren't you?

Anyone caught defending Christians will be presumed to be a Christian.

SkyDaddy7  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. That was my point...
 If the Religious Right were to get their way & our secular laws are replaced with Christian based laws then to act as if they would not begin to act more & more radical is ignoring 2000 yrs of history!

Of course the Religious Right in America is not near as bad as these people RIGHT NOW because we have safeguards in place...However, remove the principal of separation of church & state & see where we are 20 years down the road! It will get nasty it always does when religion is allowed to set the laws. Name on theocracy past or present where society flourished & human rights abuses where not central to how they enforce laws? I might be wrong & I will admit it if shown the evidence.

Yes. As soon as the DOMA is held up by the Supreme Court, James Dobson will start pitching queers off of tall buildings.

alfredo  (1000+ posts)        Mon Nov-22-10 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
56. Religion is not compatible with democracy. So far we've
 prevented them from changing our form of government, but they won't give up. They thought they could gain control of our government by taking control of the GOP, but it didn't work out as they planned. They ended up being played. "Here's a piece of candy. Now run along, We'll call you next election cycle." 

TalkingDog (1000+ posts)     Mon Nov-22-10 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #2
55. You mean like 
 David Koresh
Jim Jones
Eric Randolph

those kind of religious wack jobs? The kind that rape kids, kill all their followers or blow up innocent people?

give me a freakin' break.

leftynyc  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-22-10 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Bullshit
 Don't try and change the subject (as so many on this site do when it's pointed out there are parts of Islam that are barbaric). Unless you can link to where any elected offical has asked for biblical penalties to crimes, you're speaking out of your ass.

leftynyc  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-22-10 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. Uh - who makes our laws?
 I wasn't answering the OP. This "our religious freaks are just like them" is the same bullshit that comes across these pages every time there is something about Islam and it's nothing but unadulterated bullshit. NOBODY who actually makes our laws, even those seriously running for that privledge, has ever said anything about cutting hands of thieves or stoning adulterers - the comparison is nothing but lazy thinking.

The day leftynyc has to stand up for Christians because the rest of the DUmp has gone batshit crazy is surely a sign of the coming Apacolypse.

Kali  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. they also rarely use terms like ni**er, but that doesn't mean they don't think it
 if you really believe there aren't people in office or trying to get there and in other high up policy making positions that feel biblical laws and old testament "punishments" should be implemented you are VERY mistaken.

leftynyc  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-22-10 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Give me names
 Otherwise you're spouting bullshit. Just one name - one elected official who wants biblical penalties for broken laws. What they think really isn't the issue here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4624650

And on it goes.

[Ballygrl]

The insanity continues.

[Carl]

If anyone ever wanted proof of Satans existence the DUmp is all the evidence needed.

[BlueStateSaint]

I've got to hand it to leftynyc there--said primitive is really making them writhe over this one.  Though, it does seem to be a sign of The End.

[dandi]

SkyDaddy7  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. That was my point...
 If the Religious Right were to get their way & our secular laws are replaced with Christian based laws then to act as if they would not begin to act more & more radical is ignoring 2000 yrs of history!

Here it is, my nomination for the stupidest DUmbass of the year and the biggest retard on the planet.  It's ****tards like this that sometimes makes me question the wisdom of giving 22 years of my life to make sure they had the peace of mind to be the least they could be.

DUmbass, SkyDaddy7, you stupid lump of ****, our founding fathers escaped Europe to get away from theocracies!  We don't have a state sponsored religion, you slobbering twat!  Specifically for the reason that we don't torture and maim or fellow citizens like, ya know, the ****ing muslims do!

Break open a history book instead of a 'Hustler' sometime and educate yourself!

****ing idiot!

Of course the Religious Right in America is not near as bad as these people RIGHT NOW because we have safeguards in place

Of course, quite right, old chap...

 

Nowhere in the United States is anyone doing anything you are fapping yourself over.  Except, of course, your precious and protected muslims.

And when they come to smite you about the neck for being a dhimmi infidel DUmbass, I hope it's on pay per view.

However, remove the principal of separation of church & state & see where we are 20 years down the road!

Assclown, conservatives like the Constitution the way it is, we don't intend to remake it into something that it's not supposed to be.

But, if we play your silly-assed game, I bet that in 20 years we won't have nearly the leftist filth shoved into our faces every day and you lazy assed bitches at the DUmp will have to go to charities to beg.

Kind of a win-win as I see it...

It will get nasty it always does when religion is allowed to set the laws.

Then thank God Almighty that you live in a country founded by men who wanted to live free as they were endowed by their creator.  Thank God you have the greatest military on earth to make sure you can sit on your lazy ass and bitch about the very foundations of this Judeo-Christian country.

Name on theocracy past or present where society flourished & human rights abuses where not central to how they enforce laws?

Can't think of one off the top of my head, but I wonder if you could name me a secular-humanist society that doesn't contain gulags and does not use it's military against it's citizens?

Hmmmmm?

Don't worry, DUmbass, I'll wait....

I might be wrong & I will admit it if shown the evidence.

Since you are a mouth breathing, thumb sucking, emotionally stunted DUmbass, I doubt it... 

[jukin]

SkyDaddy7  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 01:03 PM
Response to Original message
1. AHH YES...I share your warm & fuzzy feeling about Religion in the 21st Century!
 What makes me laugh is to see the Religious Right point to stuff like this and say "Look how barbaric those Muslims are!" when I know if they could they would be doing the same thing just in a different way! The scary part is the Religious Right want a theocracy in the USA so that they can force everyone to live by the evils of Evangelical Christianity. If they were in full control who really thinks they would not be violent toward atheist, agnostics, Liberal Christians, & especially homosexuals! They would literally go "BIBLICAL" on anyone who did not submit to their Bronze Age view of the world!

TYPICAL LIBERAL PROJECTION.

[Wineslob]

Funny, they treat Fox News exactly the same way.

[true_blood]

The UK is gone to the muzzies it seems. That Country is all done. They have caved and caved to the mooselims, now they are "in too deep".
As for the DUmmies. They don't see a problem with this behavior?? Stupids will learn one day what this all means. They glorify the throwbacks and hate Catholics and say that Catholics are pushing their views/values upon them. I wonder how they'll feel when the throwbacks force their "peaceful religion" upon them.
Liberalism really is a BAD mental disorder.

[delilahmused]

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't plenty of those founders the "religious right" and probably a damn sight more conservative than even many Christians today? Thus, wouldn't they have written the Constitution in such a way as to make sure "Christian" law was the law of the land?

Cindie

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SkyDaddy7  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. That was my point...
 If the Religious Right were to get their way & our secular laws are replaced with Christian based laws then to act as if they would not begin to act more & more radical is ignoring 2000 yrs of history!

Of course the Religious Right in America is not near as bad as these people RIGHT NOW because we have safeguards in place...However, remove the principal of separation of church & state & see where we are 20 years down the road! It will get nasty it always does when religion is allowed to set the laws. Name on theocracy past or present where society flourished & human rights abuses where not central to how they enforce laws? I might be wrong & I will admit it if shown the evidence.

Say, wasn't one of your idiot brood spouting off on how we don't need the US Constittuion anymore?  He likened it to a home brewers starter kit.  Well, where do you idiots think these protections are defined?  They are not protections from Christians or Muslims but against that greatest foe of humankind in history, government.

[Karin]

SkyDaddy7, you stupid lump of ****

  Wasp, you got a H5 for that.   

TalkingDog (1000+ posts)     Mon Nov-22-10 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #2
55. You mean like 
 Jim Jones

Just at the anniversary of the massacre, those at the DUmp had to admit that Jim Jones was a hardcore, communist leftist, BFF with Roselyn Carter.  They couldn't deny it, though it was a tad uncomfortable.   

[dandi]

  Wasp, you got a H5 for that.   

Thanks.   

[Duke Nukum]

Kali  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. they also rarely use terms like ni**er, but that doesn't mean they don't think it
 if you really believe there aren't people in office or trying to get there and in other high up policy making positions that feel biblical laws and old testament "punishments" should be implemented you are VERY mistaken.

I didn't think that word all day long until I read Kali's post.  We certainly know she both uses it and thinks it.  Especially when it comes to Conservatives of Color.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Kali  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-22-10 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
34. they also rarely use terms like ni**er, but that doesn't mean they don't think it
 if you really believe there aren't people in office or trying to get there and in other high up policy making positions that feel biblical laws and old testament "punishments" should be implemented you are VERY mistaken.

TRANSLATION: thought crimes...not based on what you actually think but on what some race-baiting asshat claims you think.