But can you make beer or whiskey?? ![:cheersmate:](https://conservativecave.com/home/Smileys/default/happy.gif)
Yes I have and can make beer but it is from purchased kits.
That is the thing everyone has to remember,to do this stuff you have to have the ingredients.
I have the raw materials to make wine (fruits,flowers,berries) but it is a lot more then that,you need the proper yeast,sugar and other things.
That stuff doesn`t appear out of no where so everyone has to remember being an island to themselves does not equal a paradise.
It is basic just beyond starvation survival and that isn`t quite as a nice a situation as some would think.
Now add to that a complete breakdown of civil order and you have starving,fleeing urbanites that will kill you for the tomatoes in your garden unless you kill them first and one can see what kind of real ugly and undesirable scene is painted.
In essence very large groups would have to amass to form a country of sorts,anyone thinking they can live in a post USA anarchist world alone comfortably is deluding themselves.