http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5340476Oh my.
The low-calorie primitive, the mother of two credible sons and one incredible son, the high-school dropout making circa $300,000 a year.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:34 AM
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How will Hillary be received by her fellow senators when she goes back to her senate seat?.
Will she even run for re-election in '12?
I'm guessing that she will not..
It's obvious (to most of us) that the whole "Senator from NY" thing was a prop ..a jumping off point.. on-the-job training.. for her run for the presidency.
Going from being the One and Only First Lady to being one-of-100..and a junior senator at that, had to be a bit of a downgrade to her..
If it had paid off and gotten her the presidency, it would have all been worth it, but going back as the loser, has to be a bitter pill to swallow. The fact that so many of her fellow senators did NOT support her, would be tough to accept. After the nasty campaign she waged, I do not see many of them welcoming her back with open arms.
I could actually see her running for governor of NY, but I don't see her all fired up to remain the junior senator from NY.
Nita Lowey was all set to run for the senate seat before Hillary shoved her under the bus.. Maybe Lowey will run now.
I dunno.
I think Messalina Agrippina's going to be much feared by her colleagues, because she got the Democrat nomination for the presidency, and lost the election.
Nothing more fearsome than a wounded Messalina Agrippina; she'll wreak some revenge, and it won't be pretty.
PatGund (651 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:35 AM
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1. Oh, there's a couple that will....
Sen. Liberman, Sen. McCain.......
Lucky 13 (308 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:36 AM
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2. With torches and pitchforks?
Hmmm. This must be Freeper's mole, because no primitive has the imagination to think of something like this.
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:37 AM
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3. Quite honestly?
She'll be welcomed warmly by all her dem colleagues. And my guess is that she does run again in 2012- she is not up for re-election in 2010.
The know-it-all cali primitive, once a first-tier primitive but since demoted to third-tier primitivism.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:39 AM
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5. oops.. thanks.. I fixed the date
Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:38 AM
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4. With a standing ovation
Love her or hate her, Hillary is probably the most important American woman of this era. She has occupied a central place in American culture and history since the early '90s. Win or lose, she is an important part of a trajectory that will sooner or later give us a woman president.
RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Apr-01-08 11:59 AM
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20. Agreed.
And no one got thrown-under-the-busâ„¢ with your post.
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:41 AM
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6. Even The Ones Who Endorsed Obama Will Make Believe Nothing Happened
After all Washington is the town where Ted Kennedy used to play tennis with Don Rumsfeld during his first incarnation as Secretary Of Defense for Gerald Ford...
Yeah, sure, plenty of odd pairs in politics.
Such as the close friendship between John Kennedy and Barry Goldwater during the 1950s when both were in the U.S. Senate, although Goldwater considered Kennedy an intellectual lightweight.
DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Apr-01-08 11:41 AM
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7. Madam President
Bad Thoughts (550 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:43 AM
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8. Ironically, ...
If she had run for Senate for Illinois, her true home state, Obama would never be in a position to challenge her.
Oleladylib Donating Member (919 posts) Apr-01-08 11:47 AM
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11. Thanks but...we like her here.
ayFredMuggs (285 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:49 AM
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13. gee, but
There wasn't a Senatorial eletion in Ill in the year 2000....not until 2004.
So.......
I would have suggested Hawaii, far away from the limelight, and nice 365 days a year, but a heck of a commute to DC.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:53 AM
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16. Exactly.. she couldn't wait.. she "needed" to get in , in 2k so she'd have some experience
She probably should have run for president in '04, but maybe she knew she would lose, and might not get re-elected in '06 to the senate then..
By waiting until just after her re-election, she would have plenty of money and a position to return to if she lost..
Bad Thoughts (550 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:54 AM
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18. Actually, 2002
Yes, I know it was Durbin's seat. There was no necessity for Clinton to run in 2000, and there were other options than New York. She also could have run in Arkansas in 2002.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:50 AM
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14. She would have had to challenge someone, and would have lost
That's why they "chose" NY..open seat.. Then they got lucky when Rudy got cancer..
If that had not happened to Rudy, she would have never run for president, because HE would be the junior senator form NY
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:45 AM
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9. They're all going to laugh at her.
Now, surely the CVS pharmacy primitive is joking.
No one, but no one, laughs at Messalina Agrippina.
Messalina Agrippina's keeping a list, and even though the primitives are small potatoes in the scheme of things, Messalina Agrippina's notorious for being a good detail-man. Probably right now someone on her staff is keeping track of Obamanation primitives, for disposal after her truly important opponents are liquidated.
If I were an anti-Messalina Agrippina primitive, I'd be looking for a place to hang out far, far, far away.
Oleladylib Donating Member (919 posts) Apr-01-08 11:46 AM
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10. Naw...it ain't gonna happen anyhow...
4themind (293 posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:48 AM
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12. Partially depends on what happens in this primary and GE..
If she's behind in pledged delegates and popular voting but still takes this thing to the convention, she may lose her prominent position on the armed services committee if her fellow senators blame her(especially if McCain wins). She might then decide to run for NY govenor but that will have some problems also. For one, its not clear that Patterson will just step aside for her, and if she runs against him, she'll probably win but possibly even further erode her base in the AA community (rightly or wrongly). This would make it all the harder for her to win if Ghouliani also wants the spot (as opposed to her senate seat). A lot of what if's here but, just thinking out loud here.
Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 11:52 AM
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15. Having Dug Herself a Hole So Deep That She May Never Climb Out of It Without Assistance
I wouldn't put her chances at having any political life left very high.
And if she keeps "campaigning" in the style she has, there won't be any helping hand reaching down, either.
Get a clue, Hill. You're only 60. That's 20-40 years of humiliation to live through if you burn down all bridges.
Ah, the demented primitive, the second-most prolific primitive on Skins's island, behind only the babbling sister primitive.
cricket08 Donating Member (569 posts) Apr-01-08 11:54 AM
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17. Madam President.....
Hillary will be moving to Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 09, and probably will run for a second term in 2012.
Go Hillary!!
northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Tue Apr-01-08 11:54 AM
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19. I think she'll get a standing ovation when she delivers the State of the Union Address in 2009, don't you?
odd you accuse Hillary of using the Senate as a stepping stone, she's got 8 years in, and has been reelected. Obama has less than one term in. Will he go back to the Senate if he loses?
another option: will President Obama hold a grudge against Clinton and her supporters? we know he prefers to work across the aisle anyway, I think he'll consider the dems in his pocket and will neglect them for the few republican votes he needs. you know who becomes incredibly powerful in an Obama presidency if there aren't 60 Dems in the Senate? Lieberman.
Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-01-08 12:00 PM
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21. She will be shunned for all time for daring to challenge The One.
