RV parks banning older"trashy" {dummies}

[zeitgeist]

Most dummies either don't read the linked articles or have zero comprehension. Titles bear little resemblance to the actual articles.

I suggest reading the article linked article before reading the dummy comments on this thread.
 
http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=128761179938446800


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9563730

Liberal_in_LA  (1000+ posts)      Mon Nov-15-10 03:34 PM
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As more people living in RVs, RV parks banning older "trashy" looking RVs
 

Danny Williams and his wife live in a 21-foot 1971 Winnebago they bought in April for $260. A gray tarp covers the sagging roof to keep out rain, and the RV reeks of gasoline. A makeshift fueling system relies on a gasoline jug stowed next to the passenger's seat, with gasoline feeding the engine via a plastic tube.



TRIBUNE PHOTO: CHRISTOPHER ONSTOTT • Danny Williams makes plastic necklaces inside the RV he calls home, and his wife Teresa Dutton then sells them for $1 apiece to shoppers emerging from stores like WinCo Foods in outer Northeast Portland. The RV is too old to meet the standards for most mobile home parks, so Williams and Dutton keep moving to avoid trespassing and anti-camping violations.



TRIBUNE PHOTO: CHRISTOPHER ONSTOTT • Teresa Dutton (left) tends to her bracelets at her RV home’s dining table, while Danny Williams sits on the married couple's bed. On a good day, they can make $50 to $80 selling plastic, glow-in-the-dark bracelets, supplementing Williams’ $674 monthly disability payments.

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It’s not as if they have many choices. When they met in 1991, Danny was sleeping outside and Teresa was in a homeless shelter.

During the years, they’ve lived in two RV parks, once in a 40-foot-long fifth-wheel trailer and once in another larger RV. They spent a year in Dignity Village, an organized homeless camp in Northeast Portland, but Teresa didn’t fit in well. For a while they rented a room in a crack house, and stayed a spell in an apartment.

They’d love to get some stability by living in an RV park, but their current rig doesn’t pass muster.

“The rules are your RV has to be 10 years or newer,” Teresa says. “It can’t look trashy on the outside — no tarps.”

http://portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=1287...
 

Some posts are sane

Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)       Mon Nov-15-10 03:49 PM
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1. Given what they say about makeshift gasoline jugs and a tarp for a roof,
 it's hard to blame the parks.

So then, how about giving this couple an intact unit to live in? Even if it is 10 years old, it would be a start!

But nah, that would be SOSHULISM!!!

 

others not so much.   again one needs to read the original article the OP leaves out a lot.

JVS  (1000+ posts)         Mon Nov-15-10 04:05 PM
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7. Joadmobile!

Dummies are so hung up on that story.

WolverineDG  (1000+ posts)        Mon Nov-15-10 04:09 PM
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8. Instead of whining about the RV parks' standards
 why not try to raise money for repairs to this RV?

Because this "A makeshift fueling system relies on a gasoline jug stowed next to the passenger's seat, with gasoline feeding the engine via a plastic tube" is definitely NOT safe.

dg

Obamaville. Yep that's what they will call 'em

Kennah  (237 posts)       Mon Nov-15-10 07:42 PM
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13. It will all work out in 2018
 
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demigoddess (1000+ posts)     Mon Nov-15-10 09:06 PM
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19. new version of Hooverville.
 isn't that what they called them in the great depression?

I have been waiting for Bobo the Hobo to show up at this little campfire.  How about a lurkie-lou sending her a link so we can all enjoy her unique perspective.

[true_blood]

Running the stove top burners at night with the smell of gas in the RV doesn't sound too good.
How does this guy collect his SS check if he's always on the move and doesn't have a place of residence?

[zeitgeist]

Running the stove top burners at night with the smell of gas in the RV doesn't sound too good.
How does this guy collect his SS check if he's always on the move and doesn't have a place of residence?

PO Box??  Direct deposit???

Yeah.  I was wondering about the open flame and odor of gas.  This problem may take care of it self some night.  Boom.  All gone.  

It is hard to get these folk out of parks once they get in.  It can ruin a park in no time flat.  Gypsies, tramps and thieves ( ok and druggies).  

Fixed image from previous post:

[Vagabond]

In my experience, trailer parks just want to make sure they aren't letting people that are going to trash the place in.  I borrowed a fifteen year old twenty foot camper from a friend for a few months one time, I never had a problem.  Then again, the camper was immaculate and I don't look like trouble.

[NHSparky]

And let's not get started with the insurance liability.  Nothing like a park owner having to shell out for Jethro's meth lab done blowin up his'n and everyone else's trailer around him.

[zeitgeist]

And let's not get started with the insurance liability.  Nothing like a park owner having to shell out for Jethro's meth lab done blowin up his'n and everyone else's trailer around him.

Aye yup, ain't that the truth, although in the article these two fine citizens are identified as recovering crack addicts ( an I am sure dopers are always true to their school so hillbilly heroine is probably not even on their radar screen ).  I looked at a campground a few miles north of your home base several years ago but took a pass on it after driving through.  Never a good thing when a 'campground' has a school bus stopping and campers fully winterized.  Then there is another over the border which has some fine property but seems to turn up frequently in the police logs as a residence. (these are RV campgrounds not mobile home parks) meant for transient campers.  Insurance is just the tip of the iceberg, think town liability as well.  That boggles the mind.

I am being beagled.
 

[Karin]

The myth of the Noble Savage.  DUmmies and other assorted prog types believe:  1)  Brown people can do no wrong, and 2)  Poor people can do no wrong. 

Obamaville. Yep that's what they will call 'em

Up north, near the Mohawk reservation, is a sign indicating to turn right to go to a place called "Roosevelttown."  Next time I'm up there, I'm going to go and take a camera.  You can just imagine what it must look like; just like it sounds.  Hardscrabble, dirt-poor, dirt floors, outhouses probably.  One business in town, a bar. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

demigoddess (1000+ posts)     Mon Nov-15-10 09:06 PM
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19. new version of Hooverville.
 isn't that what they called them in the great depression?

Now they call them Obamaville.

[jukin]

I've got a vintage motor home that is 45 years old. However, it is in very good shape.  I can stay at any RV park but generally can't keep it for long term because of it's age. I got a hundred that says it is all due to lawyers.

[zeitgeist]

The myth of the Noble Savage.  DUmmies and other assorted prog types believe:  1)  Brown people can do no wrong, and 2)  Poor people can do no wrong. 

Up north, near the Mohawk reservation, is a sign indicating to turn right to go to a place called "Roosevelttown."  Next time I'm up there, I'm going to go and take a camera.  You can just imagine what it must look like; just like it sounds.  Hardscrabble, dirt-poor, dirt floors, outhouses probably.  One business in town, a bar. 

You hit on something here Karin, the Noble savage.  It seems to me somewhere along the line primitives disconnect reality when they are reading, whether "The Grapes of Wrath", "To Kill a Mocking Bird",  or even "1984", they take the fantasy and weave it into what for them becomes an  idealogical reality.  They  mistake fiction for fact just as I once did in the fourth grade when reading "Johnny Tremain" (which in my book review I identified as a biography rather than a novel).    Primitives never learned the lessons of fourth grade.  

Now back to the topic at hand, I have long heard of 'gangs' which operate out of the national park system.   At one point in the early nineties I got to see just how bad things were when I ended up making an emergency stop at one just out side of DC.

And I will never forget being asked by a reserve cop / Good Sam, who stopped to offer assistance once when I had broken down what I was packin for heat, his assumption being anyone going to a campground in the area I was coming from would be armed.  In fairness I had no problem there but will admit that I kept a more vigilant eye for problems after hearing some of his stories. I do not pack heat on the road.  That may change with this rig.  Any suggestions?  I thought about a marine model 12 gage pump but would really like something clip fed as opposed to tube.   I am not sure about a hand gun but preference there runs to a .38/357 double action revolver with speed loader.  I am not sure how Mass treats an RV in terms of handguns.

[BlueStateSaint]

I am not sure how Mass treats an RV in terms of handguns.

Don't do it--you don't want to be the test case.  IMHO, you'd be better off with a shotgun.  A coach gun.  Still gets the job done, and it's a "cowboy weapon," so it won't be viewed as scarily as a pistol-gripped Mossberg or Remington.

[zeitgeist]

Don't do it--you don't want to be the test case.  IMHO, you'd be better off with a shotgun.  A coach gun.  Still gets the job done, and it's a "cowboy weapon," so it won't be viewed as scarily as a pistol-gripped Mossberg or Remington.

That has pretty much been my operational theory since it is almost impossible to avoid Mass without going around Robin Hood's barn so to speak.  The old rig did have a good stash location but then the inevitable question would be, hidding a weapon 'eh?  ( I have never been able to get away with anything )

[BlueStateSaint]

That has pretty much been my operational theory since it is almost impossible to avoid Mass without going around Robin Hood's barn so to speak.  The old rig did have a good stash location but then the inevitable question would be, hidding a weapon 'eh?  ( I have never been able to get away with anything )

And if you go through NY, it had better not be loaded in transit.  Loaded long gun in (or on) a vehicle is a big no-no.

[delilahmused]

I'd love to have a trashy RV like that (I'd fix the roof though). I want to gut it and paint it that tacky turquoise color you find on single wides made in the 50's or 60's and still seen in "white trash" trailer parks all across the fruited plain. Then I want to put perches and nesting boxes inside and call it The Happy Clucker Hotel.

Cindie

[chitownchica]

The story says this couple makes $50-80 on good days selling their plastic wares (whatever those are).  That + the government check + living rent free in that hovel on wheels means they could at least make some repairs.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The story says this couple makes $50-80 on good days selling their plastic wares (whatever those are).  That + the government check + living rent free in that hovel on wheels means they could at least make some repairs.

You forgot to deduct the daily marijuana expense in that calculation.

[chitownchica]

You forgot to deduct the daily marijuana expense in that calculation.

True- or that crack from their 'former' days.  Just kills me to read the DUmmies saying that in a fair world they would be provided with a home.

[true_blood]

True- or that crack from their 'former' days.  Just kills me to read the DUmmies saying that in a fair world they would be provided with a home.

Yeah, in other words, "free home".

[DumbAss Tanker]

True- or that crack from their 'former' days.  Just kills me to read the DUmmies saying that in a fair world they would be provided with a home.

Heh, in a truly "Fair" world, most of them would just starve to death.

[zeitgeist]

Yeah, in other words, "free home".

I seem to remember they passed on that.  We see the same thing around here, bums don't like the rules, the libs don't understand why they spurn their generosity.  There is a brand new homeless shelter, paint hardly dry but the hard core still live in the wood with the sneaky pete and crack.  Some clean up a bit and come in when the mercury drops into the sub zero range.

[true_blood]

I seem to remember they passed on that.  We see the same thing around here, bums don't like the rules, the libs don't understand why they spurn their generosity.  There is a brand new homeless shelter, paint hardly dry but the hard core still live in the wood with the sneaky pete and crack.  Some clean up a bit and come in when the mercury drops into the sub zero range.

Is the home you're talking about in MA?

[zeitgeist]

Is the home you're talking about in MA?

No Portsmouth, NH, also refer to as New Amesbury NH or P_town north.  The local Republican party can hold mettings in a phone booth.  I am sure we only have the upper crust of bums.  I mean does it get any better than dumpster diving at a fresh market??     Our bums are all organic and sustainable.    But in the homless shelter? Not so much.

[true_blood]

^^

[AprilRazz]

Aye yup, ain't that the truth, although in the article these two fine citizens are identified as recovering crack addicts ( an I am sure dopers are always true to their school so hillbilly heroine is probably not even on their radar screen ).  I looked at a campground a few miles north of your home base several years ago but took a pass on it after driving through.  Never a good thing when a 'campground' has a school bus stopping and campers fully winterized.  Then there is another over the border which has some fine property but seems to turn up frequently in the police logs as a residence. (these are RV campgrounds not mobile home parks) meant for transient campers.  Insurance is just the tip of the iceberg, think town liability as well.  That boggles the mind.

I am being beagled.
 

Had a good friend who lived at a campground in an RV. Her husband is army and they were only going to stay till they found a place without wheels. But she hit it off with the owners and they offered her a job with a perk of a free lot. Of course it was just them and the dog. She liked it because she had friends around when her husband deployed.
By living there for a little over two years they were able to save a ton of money and just bought a pretty nice house and parked the older RV in the driveway.
I see what you are getting at but not all people that live on campgrounds are like that.

[NHSparky]

I seem to remember they passed on that.  We see the same thing around here, bums don't like the rules, the libs don't understand why they spurn their generosity.  There is a brand new homeless shelter, paint hardly dry but the hard core still live in the wood with the sneaky pete and crack.  Some clean up a bit and come in when the mercury drops into the sub zero range.

Of course--I noticed the population over at the Crossroads House dropped noticeably when they closed the bar at the bowling alley across the road.