Chief S itting Bull all beat up; has jaw wired shut

[franksolich]

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Oh my.

Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 06:32 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Original message

Well, the hits just keep on coming. I got hurt really bad this time.
   
I have severe postural hypotension, meaning when I stand up too quickly my blood pressure craters and I black out.

Just like that. No warning, no dizziness, just like a light switch shutting off. Or like when you're going under general anesthesia and they tell you to count backward from 100, and you don't even get to 99 before you wake up in the recovery room.

It hit me just over a week ago when I got up from the couch in my outer office and started to walk into my inner office, and because it's so instant, I didn't even have time to put my arms out in front of me, so I hit the floor with my chin leading the way.

The blackout only lasted five seconds or so, but when I woke up I found I had to spit some bloody Chicklets into the sink (which the same turned out to be five teeth). Then I got to work cleaning the blood off the hardwood floor. That wasn't easy, because I kept pouring more blood from my chin onto the floor. I did get the floor clean, though.

Fortunately, my older son was home that day, and he looked at the gash on my chin and insisted that I let him take me to the emergency clinic. (Even though I, as usual, insisted "Just give me a Band-Aid, would you?)

Good thing I let him take me there. Turns out that I had broken my jaw in six places (in addition to knocking out the teeth), gained my eighth concussion, and had broken three ribs. (That's in particular no fun; I've broken ribs before but they were lower ones - it's a different deal when you break ribs up high, it seems.)

So the emergency clinic had the ambulance cart me off to the Big Hospital, where they kept me in a neck brace for five days, and wired my jaw shut.

Ladies and gentlemen, if you ever have the choice, do NOT get your jaw wired shut. It's ****ing miserable. The only good part (this is true) is that the doctor prescribed two cans of Bud for me with each meal of mush...he said that beer is a good way to get some carbs onboard and that it helps the pain medicine work, and gives the kidneys some work to do.

It was kinda neat, though, to spend five or six days talking like the old jaw-clenched Clint Eastwood; I was able to keep the nurses entertained with that. ("Ya feelin' lucky, PUNK?) Unfortunately, I looked like a criminal who had been hanged, because during and after the mouth / jaw surgery, a gallon or so of blood leaked down into my neck and upper chest. I was about 4/5th body and one-fifth bruise. Not to mention the swelling where they installed plates, screws, etc in my jaw during the 3 hours of surgery.

I wouldn't let Mrs R visit; I didn't want her to see me looking like that.

And, dammit, I didn't even have the pleasure of getting drunk before I fell. That would've made this story a bit more interesting, but I was stone sober when it happened.

But, hurrah, I got the vertical wires removed today so I can move my jaw and slurp down my pureed dinner much more efficiently. I don't mind so much having to eat / drink slurries for my meals because the process is much less messy now. And I still have the stabilizing wires in my teeth - now I know how the kids with braces must feel.

So it's going to be kind of a long road back; I'll need some heavy-duty dental work next month and of course ribs take forever to heal. But I have Mrs R and the Visiting Nurses who are going to set me up with some therapy to deal with my balance and blood-pressure problems.

I may be beat up, but I ain't dead yet.

That's the spirit, Redstone. 

Our sincere and heartfelt good wishes for a rapid recovery, as we miss you.

Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 07:05 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #4

8. That's what they kept on telling me: "Stand up more slowly," but:
   
when they ran the tests on me, they had me sit for TWO MINUTES, then stand for another two minutes, and I STILL dropped 40 points of blood pressure.

So I asked them "how the hell MORE slowly can I get up?" And of course they didn't have an answer to that.

So much for modern medicine.

Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-12-10 11:35 PM
CHIEF S ITTING BULL, THE BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE
Response to Reply #26

36. oh, yeah, I was the favorite of all the nurses because I NEVER complained, was unfailingly polite, and always thanked them for everythiing they did for me.

Oh, and I also taught myself not to flinch years ago, for reasons long forgotten. That made IV / blood test needle insertion much easier for them.

An ideal patient from a nurse's point of view, if I say so myself.

Yeah, yeah.  Sure.

mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Fri Nov-12-10 09:25 PM
THE mike_c PRIMITIVE, WHO'S FATTER THAN franksolich THOUGHT HE WAS
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28. wow, that sounds BRUTAL....
   
I broke my ankle around the same time, but I've got to tell you-- it's NOTHING compared to what you've endured! Damn! That hurt just reading about it.

Glad to hear that you're on the mend, although it sounds like it's going to be slow. Take care of yourself and work on healing!

Again, get well, Redstone.  We all miss you like you wouldn't believe.

[Randy]

Now they're bouncing injuries to get on our top DUmmie list?? They learned from Pammy well it seems. What's next? Calpiggy breaking a hip? Stinky getting castrated by ass suction and a flushing toilet? Beth breaking her fool neck while riding dressage? Ooooo maybe Pittstain can regain his ranking with a good assassination attempt!

[BlueStateSaint]

Now they're bouncing injuries to get on our top DUmmie list?? They learned from Pammy well it seems. What's next? Calpiggy breaking a hip? Stinky getting castrated by ass suction and a flushing toilet? Beth breaking her fool neck while riding dressage? Ooooo maybe Pittstain can regain his ranking with a good assassination attempt!

That shit's funny!

H5!

[Carl]

Let me get this straight.

Guy says he faints and falls on his face (not sure if a person passes out falling forward downward but for the sake of argument will accept it),knocks out 5 teeth,breaks his jaw in 6 places and has three broken ribs from it??

Ladies and gentlemen, if you ever have the choice, do NOT get your jaw wired shut. It's ****ing miserable. The only good part (this is true) is that the doctor prescribed two cans of Bud for me with each meal of mush...he said that beer is a good way to get some carbs onboard and that it helps the pain medicine work, and gives the kidneys some work to do.

What the? 

[BlueStateSaint]

What the? 

Neighbor, alcohol helps opiates work.  It does this: 

[Randy]

Ladies and gentlemen, if you ever have the choice, do NOT get your jaw wired shut. It's ****ing miserable. The only good part (this is true) is that the doctor prescribed two cans of Bud for me with each meal of mush...he said that beer is a good way to get some carbs onboard and that it helps the pain medicine work, and gives the kidneys some work to do.

OK this is why I posted before that this bounced. The only way a Doctor is going to talk about beer is if the DUmmie brought it up first. Since he is an alkie, I can see him doing it.
 
Seeing that he's on a liquid diet for a broken jaw there's no reason for beer with it. The food will provide all the carbs he'll need since alot of it will be Ensure ect.

Beer would enhance the pain killers. I was once told by an ER doctor to go ahead with my bachelor party plans the night after I injured myself. He did say the alcohol would help the pain killers....that night. He also stressed A)absolutely no driving and B)no more than just this once, that night and C)absolutely NO driving.

The kidneys are going to have plenty of work to do on a liquid diet. So much so that beer isn't needed.

Mr Wino here is lying to rationalize getting hammered while on drugs, if this even happened. Just like a DUmmie.

[BlueStateSaint]

Seeing that he's on a liquid diet for a broken jaw there's no reason for beer with it.

Yeah, but do we know how often he masturbates?  He might need the carbs!

[Randy]

Yeah, but do we know how often he masturbates?  He might need the carbs!

Well.....sitting around with a broken jaw, nothing to do and an internet connection....



He should easily be able to keep it under 10 times a day. 

[dandi]

I call bullshit.

Now, don't get me wrong, i believe wholeheartedly that this DUmbass suffered some heavy injuries shortly after election day, but i doubt it was from a hypotension episode.

I am thinking he got his bitter, old, tantrum throwing, drunk ass beaten like a drum after venting his spleen to the wrong person.

[MrsSmith]

It's hard to believe the 'no warning' part, but the rest sounds possible.  When my second kid was a few months old, I once got up in the middle of the night because the older child was crying.  I got the "head rush" symptoms that I'm sure most people have had, but ignored them and kept going...woke up face down on the floor, trying to figure out why the water bed was so hard!!  My kid was still crying, but his dad finally took care of him.  I was in a pool of blood, had a broken nose, broke off one front tooth and, as time went on, figured out I'd cracked every molar in my mouth.  They did a bunch of tests on me, never figured out what happened...but I have never again ignored the head rush when it starts!!!

I'd have to say the "drunk" explanation is far more likely than the "no symptoms" story.   

[BadCat]

Time for him to get a new name, Frank.

CHIEF SITTING BULL, THE TOOTHLESS BIRD-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE

[Randy]

Time for him to get a new name, Frank.

CHIEF SITTING BULL, THE TOOFLESS FLOOR-SMACKING STONED RED-FACED PRIMITIVE

 

[crockspot]

Redstone sounds an awful lot like TiT...

I have the same issue, because of my blood pressure medications. But I know better than to just hop up and go for a stroll without first grabbing onto something for a few seconds. Some people are just too stupid to cope.

[Randy]

Redstone sounds an awful lot like TiT...

I have the same issue, because of my blood pressure medications. But I know better than to just hop up and go for a stroll without first grabbing onto something for a few seconds. Some people are just too stupid to cope.

That's how I'd do it. This remeinds of the one the other day where DUmmies were bitching about hitting their heads on the freezer door handle.
Der, don't stand up when your head is in the fridge.

[BattleHymn]

It's hard to believe the 'no warning' part, but the rest sounds possible.  When my second kid was a few months old, I once got up in the middle of the night because the older child was crying.  I got the "head rush" symptoms that I'm sure most people have had, but ignored them and kept going...woke up face down on the floor, trying to figure out why the water bed was so hard!!  My kid was still crying, but his dad finally took care of him.  I was in a pool of blood, had a broken nose, broke off one front tooth and, as time went on, figured out I'd cracked every molar in my mouth.  They did a bunch of tests on me, never figured out what happened...but I have never again ignored the head rush when it starts!!!

I'd have to say the "drunk" explanation is far more likely than the "no symptoms" story.   

My wife occasionally has this problem.  She actually passed out on me while I was working on a car.  She got up from inside, and was standing there talking to me one second, the next second, it was like all the life went right out of her.  I was scared to death!

We were told by the doc that one way to help prevent this is that if you feel the head rush coming on, to tense up all of your extremity muscles and core muscles, to stop the blood from flowing out of your brain. 

[franksolich]

I'd have to say the "drunk" explanation is far more likely than the "no symptoms" story.

That's exactly what I'm thinking, madam.

[Mr Mannn]

I call bullshit.

Now, don't get me wrong, i believe wholeheartedly that this DUmbass suffered some heavy injuries shortly after election day, but i doubt it was from a hypotension episode.

I am thinking he got his bitter, old, tantrum throwing, drunk ass beaten like a drum after venting his spleen to the wrong person.

Yeah, I found this hard to believe too. Before My mother passed away she would faint all the time too. I know the sound of a falling body. She never suffered such massive injuries like this. (breaking ribs?)

I wanna give sympathy where it's due-even to DUmmies. Buy after wading thru so many lies at DU, I'm hesitant to believe anything like this. I still don't believe the Andyscam thing.

Jaw broke in 6 places? That's a beating. In his case I tend to think it was the bad end of a drug deal or he made a gay pass at a guy in a Biker bar.

[franksolich]

Yeah, I found this hard to believe too. Before My mother passed away she would faint all the time too. I know the sound of a falling body. She never suffered such massive injuries like this. (breaking ribs?)

I wanna give sympathy where it's due-even to DUmmies. Buy after wading thru so many lies at DU, I'm hesitant to believe anything like this. I still don't believe the Andyscam thing.

Jaw broke in 6 places? That's a beating. In his case I tend to think it was the bad end of a drug deal or he made a gay pass at a guy in a Biker bar.

Since this seems to have happened about the same time as the recent elections, I suspect Chief S itting Bull actually shot off his mouth to the wrong guy.  And he was probably rabidly drunk at the time, too.

[Chris_]

Unless he passed out at the top of a flight of stairs, but who would leave something interesting like that out of a story.  Drunk or not, if I fell down a flight of stairs, I would mention it to somebody.

[dandi]

Since this seems to have happened about the same time as the recent elections, I suspect Chief S itting Bull actually shot off his mouth to the wrong guy.  And he was probably rabidly drunk at the time, too.

Ya think?

[IassaFTots]

Since this seems to have happened about the same time as the recent elections, I suspect Chief S itting Bull actually shot off his mouth to the wrong guy.  And he was probably rabidly drunk at the time, too.

I think he just made it all up, because he read your Election Day thread about him. 

[franksolich]

I think he just made it all up, because he read your Election Day thread about him. 

Thank you for reminding me, madam.

So Chief S itting Bull, in case you read this, read also:

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,50652.0.html

[Karin]

I'm thinking wasp is right.  Vented his spleen to the wrong person shortly after election day.  We've seen that guy's temper.  Those are some MASSIVE injuries for just falling on the floor.  I've been banged up like that before, but it was a car crash.
Also, when you fall down drunk, you tend to have a soft landing.  "God looks out for small children and drunks" the saying goes. 

At any rate, get well soon, Birdsmacker.     

[cmypay]

If he is an alcoholic, that *might* explain his massive injuries from a simple fall. Having dealt with my Grandfather in the last several years, alcoholics lose bone density and mass at a much greater rate than others, making their bones brittle and easy to break.  IF the doc perscribed two beers with meals, it was probably to stave off DTs, not to give his kidneys something to do.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

I call bullshit.

Now, don't get me wrong, i believe wholeheartedly that this DUmbass suffered some heavy injuries shortly after election day, but i doubt it was from a hypotension episode.

I am thinking he got his bitter, old, tantrum throwing, drunk ass beaten like a drum after venting his spleen to the wrong person.

I think he fell flat on his face drunk!