The DUmp's take on Ted Rall's Revolution;

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unhappycamper  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-10-10 12:24 AM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9526066
As the Country Falls Apart, It's Time for Our Revolution 
 The following is an excerpt from Ted Rall's new book, The Anti-American Manifesto (Seven Stories, 2010).

 
(snipped to cut out the Rall shit)

unhappycamper comment: This excerpt is a great read.

Now, I seriously doubt this dillhole read the book, and so is just parroting comments from a web-site.

democrank  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-10-10 12:35 AM
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1. Makes me shudder.
 Now we have Oprah helping an actual war criminal sell his bullshit book. An AWOL war criminal at that.

And Barry smoked Crack while getting ass****ed by a Bengal Tiger. Or so I've heard.

aquart  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-10-10 01:19 AM
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2. Except for two itty bitty things.
 
One, and this ain't small: THE ARMY IS SOMEPLACE ELSE.

Two, we're a federal system and a grab for power like that will cause the federation to dissolve into separate, potentially warring states.

Now go and have your hysteria in the other room.

Not sure what retard means by No. 1. There are plenty of troops left in the states.

TheKentuckian  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-10-10 01:39 AM
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3. There are plenty enough military here with the technological edge
 I also think that being so heavily militarized and national obsession with military power and obsequious nature of many people toward the military and brass sets up a people for such conditions. Ummm...what?

The sacred cow factor is more the issue than the location of the forces. There is a sizable minority that hopes and prays for a coup, even more have some level of resentment of civilian control, that is dangerous stuff.Seriously...what?

I think your faith in the federal system are overrated as well. Surely, you recognize the states are mostly broke, corrupt, and or captured to a greater extent than the federal level. The few well run states are no match for the loons and are very dependent on the other states for survival and commerce. At best some will split off and attempt to survive but no question in my mind that most would go down the rabbit hole, especially as the bombing starts, even a small proportion of our planes can kill a lot of folks and destroy much property.

Oh....I think DUmbass thinks that our military will stage a coup.

Nuclear Unicorn  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-10-10 02:05 AM
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5. Stupid beyond stupid
 Switch proper nouns and you could find RWers that say the same thing about progressives. This kind of talk never helps.

When Iran or some jackass somewhere starts talking tough there rises a tremendous outcry among progressives for some government talking head saying "all options are on the table." Even something as bland as that is understood to imply violence may be a response. With the implicit threat of violence from the US, even a response as opposed to preempt, is little more than a counter threat and where there are dueling threats there is little room for peace. 

The same goes for this nonsense.

This hyperbole seems more like a secret desire for a self-fulfilling fantasy that doesn't even rise to the level of prophecy.Wack Off Dreams

To hell with Rall and his stupid gopher or whatever it was. Sure the hamster with a glandular condition was cute but this is not cute. This is violence and anyone who cheers this (especially from the safety of their couch, wrapped in their Snuggli) should be called out for hypocrisy if they ever wail about why war in response to 9/11 is morally wrong or why someone who chest thumps for war but isn't the first outside the barbwire is a chickenhawk.

Do you think the US military will play along with this? Nevermind the fact 3/4 vote for republicans. Nope. Not a chance in hell.

Do you think if you if it ever comes down to this you'll be spared the physical and mental ruin suffered by people touched by war? (I can't get a full night's sleep because of it and I've never been in the military let alone to a war.) ***** has PTSD from just thinking about it.

Do you think you're doing Obama any favors when the RW media is salivating for any excuse to tie him to someone like Bill Ayers or any other radical? This is filling their narrative beautifully!
Think, for God's sake. THINK!

Stop emoting like some testosterone-sotted neanderthal.

Whatever some jackass may have said about "2nd amendment remedies" will be waved off by the vast majority of Americans who are decent honest people struggling through each day. Those people are the ones we should be reaching out for. But they will reject us just as fast as they reject the snake oil remedy salesman because we turned out to be just like him.




and yes, I unrecc'ed

OOOOOooooo...She's an Angry little Unicorn.

[jukin]

1. As pointed out, the military is 80-85% conservative and will not be supporting a libera...progressiv...communist dictator taking over.

2. The American public buy enough weapons and ammo to outfit both the Chinese and Indian army every year. In 2009 it was over 1.7 million weapons sold...that the government knows about.

3. Me thinks that the libera...progressiv...communists are under 20% of those sales.

4. Right now, there are millions of veterans in private life and these people are more conservative than today's makeup of the services.

5. We shut the food, energy, and water down to any large city and watch the libera...progressiv...communist children play amongst themselves. 

6. 5-8% of the libera...progressiv...communists at the DUmp will A have a weapon, B know how to use, C not be pissing their pants in the basement.  Expand out as you like to general society.

7. Less than 20% of our populace consider themselves libera...progressiv...communists.

8. Libera...progressiv...communists can't even keep their shoes tied.

[ExGeeEye]

Fun to watch, isn't it?

Personally, I think we're headed in that direction.  I am not happy about it, nor am I suggesting it should happen.  I just think it will eventually.

Once it starts, and Please God let them start it!, it would behoove the rest of us to know exactly where the arms and ammo are, and have a pretty good idea of where like-minded and like-equipped people are, and be willing (though not wishing) to do great and sudden violence on our own behalf. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

If it's going to be instigated by wacko pasty-faced fatasses like Rall typing out manifestos in their uptown, well-appointed versions of the Unabomber's cabin, the chances of a shot ever being fired are as close to zero as it's possible to get.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

OOOOOooooo...She's an Angry little Unicorn.

There was another thread about Ratigan and Rall and the DUmbasses were talking themselves into a revolution but arguing who was playing pivot man.

She basically said they were just talking to make girls think they had big dicks.

I LOL'ed

I can't find the thread even with a search so i think it got zotted.

[Odin's Hand]

Kablooie  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-10-10 12:51 PM
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8. Did the great depression result in revolution? No. 
 We are Americans, dammit!

We don't openly revolt!

We sit around and moan.

That's the American way! 
 

Seems like Kablooie here is trying to backhandedly motivate its fellow Cheeto-eaters into more active participation in Rall's orders.

[DumbAss Tanker]

...Or possibly mock Rall and the OP; it's kind of hard to say.

[Ballygrl]

I never heard of Rall until I read his "manifesto" and all I can say is he's absolutely insane.

[true_blood]

1. As pointed out, the military is 80-85% conservative and will not be supporting a libera...progressiv...communist dictator taking over.

2. The American public buy enough weapons and ammo to outfit both the Chinese and Indian army every year. In 2009 it was over 1.7 million weapons sold...that the government knows about.

3. Me thinks that the libera...progressiv...communists are under 20% of those sales.

4. Right now, there are millions of veterans in private life and these people are more conservative than today's makeup of the services.

5. We shut the food, energy, and water down to any large city and watch the libera...progressiv...communist children play amongst themselves. 

6. 5-8% of the libera...progressiv...communists at the DUmp will A have a weapon, B know how to use, C not be pissing their pants in the basement.  Expand out as you like to general society.

7. Less than 20% of our populace consider themselves libera...progressiv...communists.

8. Libera...progressiv...communists can't even keep their shoes tied.

I have BINGO! Awesome post Jukin.