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Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« on: October 20, 2010, 08:43:28 PM »
This is one of the many cave paintings from the "Hall of Bulls" in Lascaux, France:



These are absolutely magnificent paintings that rival anything created since the humanist period of the 14th century. Yet, these paintings are nearly 20,000 years old. Though the artist lacked modern materials he or she created pigments and brushes that will as far as we know, outlive the works of Michealangelo.

Note the shading. The lines. The gentle blending of colors. The curves. The ingenuity. Attention to detail as the true anatomy of the subjects were detailed. Notice the control of the hand as gentle curves flow effortlessly over the rough-hewn canvas. Textures. Fading. Depth. Dimension. It is not a single subject but a zoological catalog that bespeaks a protean scientific effort.

Think not only of the time spent painting but practicing and developing the artist's materials and time spent studying.

Think of the gratitude of spirit as the hands that rendered those drawings were loving, if not worshipful.

This artist was, by definition, a primitive but she or he was accomplished nonetheless.

Sir, we do this artist a great disservice when we compare him to the worthless malcontents at the DUmp. They are wholly lacking in every aforementioned virtue and talent. They, sir, are not worthy of the appellate and the appellate should not be reduced to an epithet.

I do not know what we should call the denizens of the DUmp but they have not advanced themselves to the height of primitive. They have far too much ground to cover before they earn that title and I have no confidence in their ability to survive the effort let alone muster their inner courage to even attempt such exertions.

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2010, 08:52:39 PM »
Maybe savage primitives would fit the DUmmies better.

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2010, 08:56:38 PM »
bravo.  well turned.   :clap:

I think one problem that arises is that any moniker you choose for the denizens of DUH would be doing someone, somewhere, a burning disservice.

theoretically, at least, with "primitive", there is no one left to feel the pain caused by the association.


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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 09:08:32 PM »
Look at these:






The use of colors and incorporation of the cave's natural texture is awe-inspiring.

I wish I was so talented.


This next one I find particularly fascinating:



Notice the human figure does not enjoy the same level of detail and coloring. It is almost as if the artist was self-deprecating almost penitent.

The bird is also worth noting. I'm not sure if it is a crane or heron type species of particularly long legs, although the beak is rather short, or if it was a ceremonial staff or something else.

Look at the hindquarters of the half-finished image.
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 12:29:53 AM »
I can't draw that well
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2010, 12:34:02 AM »
Eye wonder - where/how did they poop?

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2010, 01:23:13 AM »
Excellent points, MSB. I hadn't even thought of that when I attempted to explain why using the word "Primitive" to describe these3 assclowns just didn't suit me. I shall stick to my co-created definition of these nincompoops.

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2010, 01:34:55 AM »
Well now, Mr. Bunny, I'm not sure, but I think you were a member of our old home when the term "primitive" evolved.

Of course, everyone has called them "DUmmies" ever since Skins landed on his island and claimed it for the malcontents, the misfits, the deviants, the whackos, the parasites, of the Democrat party.

Remember, Skins's island was established by the regular Democrats after the elections of 2000, when the regular Democrats determined that the fringe elements of their party turned off decent and civilized people, costing them votes in elections.

And hence Skin's island--so as to identify, attract, and isolate the weird ones from the regular ones, keeping them out of public view. 

Unfortunately, someone forgot the internet's wide open for all to see.

And so Skins's island couldn't remain undiscovered.

Sometime while at our old home, it struck me that the DUmmies were caveman-like in their boorish uncouth manners, after which I began calling them "Neanderthalics."

I believe it was Pedro Picasso, the "Atman" primitive, who inspired that idea.

It was subsequently pointed out that Neanderthal Man was more advanced than his stereotype implies--and much more cerebrally advanced than the DUmmies--but having invented the name, I continued using it for a while, because I couldn't think of a better one.

That is, until one day on Skins's island, I came across a campfire (this was in 2005) where the DUmmies were discussing the possible impeachment of Richard Cheney.  I don't recall the specific thread, other than that the maternal ancestress of the Bostonian Drunkard was there, but anyway.....

For me, words are pictures, and that particular thread looked very much like a bunch of filed-toothed loin-clothed savages sitting around a campfire deep in the jungle, passing back-and-forth among themselves their voodoo dolls of Richard Cheney, commenting upon the handiwork and craftsmanship of each doll, grunting and wiggle-waggling their armpits at each other in approval or disapproval.

Aha.

I had always been "into" anthropology, and Margaret Mead came instantly to mind.

It then occurred to me to start looking at the DUmmies the same way Margaret Mead observed the ancient peoples of the isolated South Seas.  A most happy occurrence, because if one really studies them, the DUmmies do betray their taboos, their fetishes, their totems, their superstitions, their rituals, their castes, their gods, their fear and loathing of the larger world outside of their own.

The problem with this was that the "primitives" of the South Seas were mostly very-dark-skinned, while the DUmmies in DUmmieland are, as we all know, something like 98.7% lily-white.  And also, the "primitives" of the South Seas were actually engaged in a life-and-death struggle for survival in a very hostile environment, while the DUmmies exist in a world that actually lets them flourish and prosper.

About the only superficial similarity between the two is that both practice substantial body decoration and mutilation.

And so my choice of the word denigrates the "primitives" and flatters the DUmmies.

But damn, I can't think of any better term, anthropological-wise, to describe the inhabitants of la-la-land.

"DUmors" has been suggested, but that's more akin to looking at the primitives as a cancer upon the body human and social, and "DUmors" is okay if one wishes to examine the primitives in the medical sense.  But I'm not looking at the primitives in the medical sense, but instead in the cultural and anthropological senses.

I think all terms used by decent and civilized people to describe the primitives on Skins's island are utterly appropriate; "DUmmies" when one thinks of them as being stupid and silly and ridiculous, "primitives" when one thinks of them in the anthropological sense, and "DUmors" when one thinks of them in the medical sense.
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2010, 01:46:54 AM »
I've suggested savages before.  Though I reserve that for a very few of the DUmmies, who would if society ever collapsed be leading the gangs attacking and trying to take anything good and decent people tried to build.  UGP is an example of a savage.
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2010, 02:09:10 AM »
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"DUmors" has been suggested, but that's more akin to looking at the primitives as a cancer upon the body human and social, and "DUmors" is okay if one wishes to examine the primitives in the medical sense.  But I'm not looking at the primitives in the medical sense, but instead in the cultural and anthropological senses.

I think all terms used by decent and civilized people to describe the primitives on Skins's island are utterly appropriate; "DUmmies" when one thinks of them as being stupid and silly and ridiculous, "primitives" when one thinks of them in the anthropological sense, and "DUmors" when one thinks of them in the medical sense.

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2010, 08:11:37 AM »

Okay, Mr. Bunny, since this is obviously a topic of interest, I made a DUmmie ALERT! for it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2611658/posts?page=18

My earnest gratitude to you, sir, for having brought up this subject.
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2010, 08:15:28 AM »
This is one of the many cave paintings from the "Hall of Bulls" in Lascaux, France:



These are absolutely magnificent paintings that rival anything created since the humanist period of the 14th century. Yet, these paintings are nearly 20,000 years old. Though the artist lacked modern materials he or she created pigments and brushes that will as far as we know, outlive the works of Michealangelo.

Note the shading. The lines. The gentle blending of colors. The curves. The ingenuity. Attention to detail as the true anatomy of the subjects were detailed. Notice the control of the hand as gentle curves flow effortlessly over the rough-hewn canvas. Textures. Fading. Depth. Dimension. It is not a single subject but a zoological catalog that bespeaks a protean scientific effort.

Think not only of the time spent painting but practicing and developing the artist's materials and time spent studying.

Think of the gratitude of spirit as the hands that rendered those drawings were loving, if not worshipful.

This artist was, by definition, a primitive but she or he was accomplished nonetheless.

Sir, we do this artist a great disservice when we compare him to the worthless malcontents at the DUmp. They are wholly lacking in every aforementioned virtue and talent. They, sir, are not worthy of the appellate and the appellate should not be reduced to an epithet.

I do not know what we should call the denizens of the DUmp but they have not advanced themselves to the height of primitive. They have far too much ground to cover before they earn that title and I have no confidence in their ability to survive the effort let alone muster their inner courage to even attempt such exertions.

Thank-you for your time.

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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2010, 08:49:16 AM »
This is one of the many cave paintings from the "Hall of Bulls" in Lascaux, France:



These are absolutely magnificent paintings that rival anything created since the humanist period of the 14th century. Yet, these paintings are nearly 20,000 years old. Though the artist lacked modern materials he or she created pigments and brushes that will as far as we know, outlive the works of Michealangelo.

Note the shading. The lines. The gentle blending of colors. The curves. The ingenuity. Attention to detail as the true anatomy of the subjects were detailed. Notice the control of the hand as gentle curves flow effortlessly over the rough-hewn canvas. Textures. Fading. Depth. Dimension. It is not a single subject but a zoological catalog that bespeaks a protean scientific effort.

Think not only of the time spent painting but practicing and developing the artist's materials and time spent studying.

Think of the gratitude of spirit as the hands that rendered those drawings were loving, if not worshipful.

This artist was, by definition, a primitive but she or he was accomplished nonetheless.

Sir, we do this artist a great disservice when we compare him to the worthless malcontents at the DUmp. They are wholly lacking in every aforementioned virtue and talent. They, sir, are not worthy of the appellate and the appellate should not be reduced to an epithet.

I do not know what we should call the denizens of the DUmp but they have not advanced themselves to the height of primitive. They have far too much ground to cover before they earn that title and I have no confidence in their ability to survive the effort let alone muster their inner courage to even attempt such exertions.

Thank-you for your time.

Mr. Bunny, what you did not mention is that these paintings were drawn deep in dark caves with the expectation they would never be seen by common man.

It is interesting that these paintings were drawn thousands of years before the paintings in tombs deep in the earth in Egypt yet both bare a common element.

When the area around the paintings are examined there are no smudge marks or any sign of lighting source for the artist to paint by.

My favorite cave paintings are the hand inprints that show up now and then.  What caused humans to want to leave their hand print unless it was a sign to others that humans had been there.?

Makes one wonder just what the hell was going on on earth 20,000 years ago.


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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2010, 10:40:31 AM »
It just shows you how far the French have fallen........
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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2010, 10:45:19 AM »
It just shows you how far the French have fallen........


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Re: Mr. Franksolich, sir, if I may have a word with you.
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 12:10:54 PM »
Either that, or the "Progressive" painter was doodling while others brought in the food.













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