Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot

[Servonaut]

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Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:05 PM
Original message
Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot
 Sometimes I just don't mind when U.S. forces suffer losses. Just being honest here.

If we're not the "good guys" then why should I "support the troops" any more than I should support troops of the Taliban or North Korea?

Please watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyjv0lOxJnM

Patriotism schmatriotism.

I'm shocked by the DUmp reaction.

wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:06 PM
Response to Original message
1. That's ****ing sick. Alerting.

Midlodemocrat  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:07 PM
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2. Dude. Get help. That's a terrible thing to think, let alone post. 

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:11 PM
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9. Really?
 Should I have sympathy for all humans? Because to some degree I do. But the worst - those who kill others for no good reason - I find I have less sympathy for. I guess it's just obvious to me that American forces are the aggressors in Iraq and therefore are not on the side of righteousness. Do they deserve a pass for their unlawful and immoral killing because they are Americans? I don't get it?

blonndee  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:09 PM
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3. What the ****. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:14 PM
Original message
I should be ashamed of myself
 for not supporting the troops? Maybe if our culture didn't glorify warriors and killers and preach that they should be "supported" at all costs then maybe our nation wouldn't be on such a suicidal aggression binge against the rest of the humans on Earth.

El Pinko (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:17 PM
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20. Dude, there are ways of talking about this...
 posting that you don't mind our friends and family getting killed is the WRONG way.

slackmaster  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:10 PM
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4. Sounds like you are having a hard time sympathizing with those soldiers
 Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 04:15 PM by slackmaster
Try to put yourself in their place before you judge them.

Alerted.

El Pinko (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:10 PM
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5. Alerted as well.
 This post is not cool. I couldn't be more opposed to the illegal US occupation of Iraq, but these KIDS were not the ones who came up with the idea.

Shame on you for posting this crap.

PCIntern  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:11 PM
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8. Now I'm gonna get e-mails from the RWers
 about DU.
shit...don't post crap like this. Please. It's seditious and poisonous. Maybe that's the point.

Owl  (377 posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:12 PM
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10. Sick. Sick. Sick.
 Alerted as well as Ignored.

The DUmmies surprised me. I thought they hated the military.     

[Chris_]

The DUmmies surprised me. I thought they hated the military.     

They do.  But they have learned to hid their hate.  Threads like this make them look bad and they know it.  The meme "we love the troops but hate their mission" has not worked and theyare trying to make people think the "love" the troops.

Fortunately, everyone sees through them.
 

[Carl]

The DUmmies surprised me. I thought they hated the military.     

The somewhat wiser primitives realize though that an open display of what they believe doesn`t sit well with the majority though.

Stealth is always the word with a lib.

[Chris_]

Ooops.

[DixieBelle]

Nuked eh? That stuff won't fly during an election year.

[Chris_]

Nuked eh? That stuff won't fly during an election year.

Yep -- we have it here.  They can watch us all they won't and there won't be much worth repeating.

They OTOH are a hotbed of hateful anti-American sentiment. And it will be captured and repeated.

No plausible deniability for you, $kammer!
 

[Servonaut]

Ooops.

I'm glad I didn't close the window. Some other responses.

apocalypsehow  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:12 PM
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11. I alerted, too. This is a terrible thing to say. 

DiverDave (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:12 PM
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12. The asswipe rw talking heads will point to this
 nice try, buh-bye

lapfog_1  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:13 PM
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13. I guess next thing is that you'll be protesting at their funerals..
 you can set up right next to this guy...

picture of the God hates Fags people

and his followers.

another one

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. So unless I "support" the troops
 I'm the equivalent of Phelps in your mind?

I do suspect that if there was a God he wouldn't support aggressive warfare and those who participate in it. Who would Jesus bomb?

dbonds  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:13 PM
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14. The soldiers are not the bad guys. It is the admin that should suffer, not them.
 Soldiers are our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, cousins and neighbors. I do not think they should suffer for the fool on the hill.

flowomo  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:14 PM
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15. alerted.
 some "honesty" is not worth sharing.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:15 PM
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16. Alerted...

Cooley Hurd  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:16 PM
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17. What the **** is wrong with you?
 There are DUers with family and friends there. Do us all a favor - keep your dumbass thoughts to yourself!

Alerted!

4MoronicYears (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:16 PM
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18. You have full rights to the golden peckerhead award. You had
 better get some help with that.

 

[Chris_]

flowomo  (1000+ posts)      Sat Mar-29-08 04:14 PM
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15. alerted.
 some "honesty" is not worth sharing.

Yes.  The Democrats don't want to be TOO honest... people might not vote for them.

[TheSarge]

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:05 PM
Original message
Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot
 Sometimes I just don't mind when U.S. forces suffer losses. Just being honest here.

And this is exactly the kind of sh*t for brains I will punch dead between the eyes if we ever meet IRL.

[dandi]

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:05 PM
Original message
Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot
 Sometimes I just don't mind when U.S. forces suffer losses. Just being honest here.

And this is exactly the kind of sh*t for brains I will punch dead between the eyes if we ever meet IRL.

You might have to take a number and get in line, Sarge.

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:11 PM
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9. Really?
 Should I have sympathy for all humans? Because to some degree I do. But the worst - those who kill others for no good reason - I find I have less sympathy for. I guess it's just obvious to me that American forces are the aggressors in Iraq and therefore are not on the side of righteousness. Do they deserve a pass for their unlawful and immoral killing because they are Americans? I don't get it?

I'll just never be able to wrap my mind around how they figure the insurgents to be the "good guys." The same people who purposely, purposely blow up women and children, execute unarmed people in the street, saw the heads off captives and are attempting to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Where are all the Chavez supporters whose mantra is, "leave him alone, he was elected by the people?" That doesn't apply to Iraq's government as well? Where's the defense of the democratic process for them? Why are you happy that theocratic thugs are attempting to subvert their fledgling democracy ? You actually believe that if we left, the religious militias would disband, everyone would lay down their arms and say, "okay, mission accomplished, the invaders are gone," and get in line to vote in the next election? How bad do you have to hate America to have that mindset?

[Attero Dominatus]

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:05 PM
Original message
Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot
 Sometimes I just don't mind when U.S. forces suffer losses. Just being honest here.

please do the human race a favor and go use yourself as a human shield for al queda. 

[TheSarge]

I'll just never be able to wrap my mind around how they figure the insurgents to be the "good guys." The same people who purposely, purposely blow up women and children, execute unarmed people in the street, saw the heads off captives and are attempting to overthrow a democratically elected government.

It's takes a special kind of hatred for thee place that gave you so much to take sides with scum like the insurgents.

[Chris_]

I don't get it! How is this worse than anything mike_c or Proudad says? Why do they climb all over this guy and let those 2 spew?

Cindie

[Lord Undies]

Yes, the soldiers are innocent.  It is the EVIL BUSH!

The DUmmies must realize no soldier is in Iraq who did not volunteer or reenlist after the 2003 operation began.  There are no "poor helpless fools" in Iraq.

How come my nephew WANTS to go to Iraq, but the Army keeps sending him back to South Korea?  < I just threw that in because it does puzzle me.

[Red October]

I never thought I'd see Ted Rall get ****ed up like that on DU. 

[Red October]

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:05 PM
Original message
Sometimes I'm OK with U.S. troops getting shot
 Sometimes I just don't mind when U.S. forces suffer losses. Just being honest here.

And this is exactly the kind of sh*t for brains I will punch dead between the eyes if we ever meet IRL.

You might have to take a number and get in line, Sarge.

Truth2Tell  (1000+ posts)       Sat Mar-29-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
9. Really?
 Should I have sympathy for all humans? Because to some degree I do. But the worst - those who kill others for no good reason - I find I have less sympathy for. I guess it's just obvious to me that American forces are the aggressors in Iraq and therefore are not on the side of righteousness. Do they deserve a pass for their unlawful and immoral killing because they are Americans? I don't get it?

I'll just never be able to wrap my mind around how they figure the insurgents to be the "good guys." The same people who purposely, purposely blow up women and children, execute unarmed people in the street, saw the heads off captives and are attempting to overthrow a democratically elected government.

Where are all the Chavez supporters whose mantra is, "leave him alone, he was elected by the people?" That doesn't apply to Iraq's government as well? Where's the defense of the democratic process for them? Why are you happy that theocratic thugs are attempting to subvert their fledgling democracy ? You actually believe that if we left, the religious militias would disband, everyone would lay down their arms and say, "okay, mission accomplished, the invaders are gone," and get in line to vote in the next election? How bad do you have to hate America to have that mindset?

Amen to that.  If they had their way, Saddam would still be in power, alive and well.  Countless others would not be as fortunate.

[RedTail]

I don't get it! How is this worse than anything mike_c or Proudad says? Why do they climb all over this guy and let those 2 spew?

Cindie

Because this guy is dumb enough to be honest, Cindie.

*Red*

[Chris_]

I don't get it! How is this worse than anything mike_c or Proudad says? Why do they climb all over this guy and let those 2 spew?

Cindie

He wasn't nuanced enough.

[Airwolf]

There are somedays I wouldn't blink an eye over watching some traitor get his just deserts for posting shit like that.

[LadyLiberty]

I don't get it! How is this worse than anything mike_c or Proudad says? Why do they climb all over this guy and let those 2 spew?

Cindie

All I can say is that the DUmmie "reaction" to this was as fake a $3 bill.

[Chris_]

Yes, the soldiers are innocent.  It is the EVIL BUSH!

The DUmmies must realize no soldier is in Iraq who did not volunteer or reenlist after the 2003 operation began.  There are no "poor helpless fools" in Iraq.

How come my nephew WANTS to go to Iraq, but the Army keeps sending him back to South Korea?  < I just threw that in because it does puzzle me.

Yep, so does my son, but he still has a few more months training. He says for every month he's here that's just one more Marine that can't go home and see HIS family. In spite of what the left is constantly trying to do to this country, America still produces some amazing young people.

Cindie

[NHSparky]

I never thought I'd see Ted Rall get ****ed up like that on DU. 

Dead link already?  Wow.  They really ARE trying to cover their asses.

[Ptarmigan]

DU may have deleted that topic, but we still have the evidence. God, they are stupid.

[DumbAss Tanker]

How come my nephew WANTS to go to Iraq, but the Army keeps sending him back to South Korea?  < I just threw that in because it does puzzle me.

That is the miracle of Army personnel management.  I tried to get sent to any combat zone that was going from 1975 through my entire active duty career and most of my reserve career.  It never got me anywhere until I stopped asking.  I think it has something to do with Catch 22.

[TheSarge]

That is the miracle of Army personnel management.  I tried to get sent to any combat zone that was going from 1975 through my entire active duty career and most of my reserve career.  It never got me anywhere until I stopped asking.  I think it has something to do with Catch 22.

And as I've said before...I'm doing everything I can to get back there.

To a combat zone that is.


And for the record...I wouldn't care what kind of sh*bag a soldier might be...I'd never be "ok" with them being shot.