Die alte Sau Anne has a period

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9337284

Oh my.

proud2BlibKansan  (1000+ posts)        Sun Oct-17-10 04:50 PM
ANNE, THE Die alte Sau, THE DYSMENOPAUSAL KANSAS SCHOOL TEACHER
#19 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2009
Original message

Get ready for a big red blotch right in the middle of the country.  

First of all, I will be voting and I am voting for every Democrat on my ballot. Let there be no doubt about that.

But I also expect nearly every one of those Democrats to lose. And I am not surprised.

I live in red state hell. Squared. On steroids. We haven't had a Democratic US Senator since the 1930s and I don't remember the last time our state house was in Democratic hands. This state is a republican stronghold. And I can't remember a time in my life when the Democrats here weren't fighting as hard as they can with what limited resources they have to turn the state blue. It's a constant never ending battle.

Until the early 90s (92? Too lazy to look it up) the district including Wichita was solid Democratic. Then the anti-choicers moved to Wichita to put Dr Tiller out of business and took over that district. It's been solid red ever since. And they did finally put Tiller out of business by murdering him last year.

My district - the 3rd - has a blue dog as a Congressman. Good man. He's been in office 12 years and is retiring. It will be a miracle if his wife who is now running for his seat wins her election. So we will likely be a red district here in a few weeks.

Our governor, a Democrat, is retiring from politics and will likely be replaced by Sam Brownback. We have a wonderful Democratic candidate but he doesn't have the funds to beat Sam. A local paper recently gave Brownback a 98.9% chance of winning his election.

In Kansas we also have this family by the name of Koch. Thank the goddess for Rachel Maddow who is helping to make this evil wealthy family a household name. And I suppose their stupidity in funding the phony grassroots tea party has also help expose them nationally. But point is, the Kochs control the state. They fund the GOP candidates who almost always win their elections. We have a smattering of Dems here but none of them have the financial backing the Kochs give their right wing candidates.

So the under funded Democrats continue to lose.

And because we are such a red state, we are largely ignored by every national Democratic organization. Our candidates only rarely get DSCC or DCCC support. I can't remember the DNC ever putting any serious money here. We did get an office during Dean's 50 state strategy campaign but that only stayed open about 6 months. Again, no money.

We have great candidates running in each congressional district and a wonderful governor and US Senate candidate. But every single one is underfunded. When you can only depend on local money and your opponent is funded by the Kochs, you are operating on a tight budget.

In Missouri, only a few miles from where I live, Roy Blunt is stomping Robin Carnahan. So the Democrats have decided to scale back (in other words, withdraw funding) from Carnahan's race. In Blunt's congressional district, a republican who was on Governor Matt Blunt's staff is registered as a Democrat running for that seat. So we basically have a republican running against a republican. Ike Skelton is threatened in his district. (Something I thought I would never see.) So MO can very likely end up with blue in KC, blue in St Louis and red everywhere else.

Until the Democrats get serious on a national level and work at winning elections all across the country, we will continue to have red state hells like the one here in Kansas and the almost red state hell being created in Missouri.

They have the Kochs. We have ________ ???

Give me a reason to be hopeful.

Tough shit, Anne.

[I_B_Perky]

The thing that always ticked me off about the whole red/blue state thing is that the dems should be considered red. After all, isn't that the communist color?

[Mike220]

The thing that always ticked me off about the whole red/blue state thing is that the dems should be considered red. After all, isn't that the communist color?

For some reason, I think it used to be that way a long time ago. 

[franksolich]

For some reason, I think it used to be that way a long time ago. 

They changed it (on television) after 1980.

I think the "mainstream" media wanted to whitewash the Democrats, and red was too obvious.

By the way, I dunno what the Die alte Sau's complaining about; since the 1930s Kansas has sent lots and lots of the finest people in the world, to the House and Senate.

She wants to be represented by second-raters?

[Mike220]

She wants to be represented by second-raters?

It's the progressive way. When they're not being represented by third-, fourth- and fifth- raters.

[Tucker]

In Kansas we also have this family by the name of Koch. Thank the goddess for Rachel Maddow who is helping to make this evil wealthy family a household name.

How is this dyke, with a viewership of 3, making Koch a household name? Who watches her?

[franksolich]

It's the progressive way. When they're not being represented by third-, fourth- and fifth- raters.

Kansas has produced some of the finest congressmen and senators in American history.

I'm scratching my head and coming up dry; I can't think of a single distinguished non-Republican from Kansas.

Again, I dunno what the Die alte Sau's complaining about; she's been represented by the best there is, excepting those few times the Dems were in office for a short while.  There was a Dem during the 1970s--probably the Die alte Sau's congressman, a guy who happened to be both a physician and an attorney (and thus some notoriety for him)--but he ran for the Senate against Robert Dole one time, and lost, after which he evaporated into the mists of long-ago history.

I think he ran against Dole in 1974--a really crummy year for Republicans--but lost big anyway.

[Tucker]

For some reason, I think it used to be that way a long time ago. 

It reversed in the 2000 election.

[franksolich]

Okay, I just checked.

Robert Dole (R) didn't win re-election "by a landslide" in 1974; it was closer than that, but at any rate, 1974 was a lousy year for Republicans all over.

His (D) opponent ran again for the U.S. Senate, an open seat, from Kansas in 1978, but got pummeled by Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R).

That guy, whatever his name was, is about the most "remarkable" non-Republican from Kansas I can think of.

[dutch508]

For some reason, I think it used to be that way a long time ago. 

The color thing came up a while back for the news agencies to show easily what side won what. Naturally, the leftist media chose red for repubicans. Anything to throw the citizens off the truth.

[Celtic Rose]

It reversed in the 2000 election.

I remember reading somewhere that Blue used to mean the party of the incumbent president, and Red was the opposition.  I assume that Red State/Blue State became so ingrained after 2000 that they decided not to bother switching anymore. 

[I_B_Perky]

I remember reading somewhere that Blue used to mean the party of the incumbent president, and Red was the opposition.  I assume that Red State/Blue State became so ingrained after 2000 that they decided not to bother switching anymore. 

I had never heard of that. Thanks for the info CR! 

[I_B_Perky]

They changed it (on television) after 1980.

I think the "mainstream" media wanted to whitewash the Democrats, and red was too obvious.

By the way, I dunno what the Die alte Sau's complaining about; since the 1930s Kansas has sent lots and lots of the finest people in the world, to the House and Senate.

She wants to be represented by second-raters?

I missed your post Frank when I replied to CR. Thanks for the info! 

[Chris_]

It reversed in the 2000 election.

I heard the same thing, so I went and checked some old TV footage on YouTube.  I think franksolich is right  It was changed after the 1980 landslide. 

[I_B_Perky]

I heard the same thing, so I went and checked some old TV footage on YouTube.  I think franksolich is right  It was changed after the 1980 landslide. 

Thanks Chris! In 1980 I was more interested in the 3 B's... B-Ball, Boobs and Butts. Good thing I was better at the the last two than I was at the first. 



 

[Traveshamockery]

proud2BlibKansan
They have the Kochs. We have ________ ???

[/b]

Shall we really go there?

Here is just a small list of what "you" have: 
George Soros,  ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, CNN, NPR, Washington Post, New York Times, and many others I'm sure I've forgotten. 

 

[Celtic Rose]

I heard the same thing, so I went and checked some old TV footage on YouTube.  I think franksolich is right  It was changed after the 1980 landslide. 

According to this site  there was switching even after 1980.  It seems that different TV stations used different colors until very recently, which is why we can't really figure out what is going on  

With the advent of color television, television news reporters have greatly relied on color-coded electoral maps during coverage of presidential election returns every four years. As Kevin Drum of the Washington Monthly explained in 2004, the networks arrived at a formula for assigning colors to political parties for election-night coverage so that there would be no perception of favoritism in the color coding. Since 1976, the color of the incumbent party has alternated:


Year      Incumbent Party        Incumbent Color    Challenger  Color

1976     Republican                Blue = Ford            Red = Carter  
      
1980     Democratic               Red = Carter          Blue = Reagan
   
1984     Republican                Blue = Reagan        Red = Mondale
   
1988     Republican                Red = Bush            Blue = Dukakis
   
1992     Republican               Blue = Bush            Red = Clinton
   
1996     Democratic              Red = Clinton          Blue = Dole
   
2000     Democratic             Blue = Gore             Red = Bush
   
2004     Republican             Red = Bush              Blue = Kerry
   
Because of this system, it just so happens that Democrats were assigned the color red and Republicans blue five out of six times between 1976 and 1996. But 2000 and 2004 had blue for Democrats and red for Republicans, and those have been the election years in which the "red state" vs. "blue state" distinction has been popularized.

[Wretched Excess]

Tough shit, Anne.

exactly.  someone this unhappy about virtually everything around her should think about moving.

[Alpha Mare]

This comment on an article about Koch Bros says it all:

The overt sin of the brothers, of course, is that they are strong, firm believers in free market capitalism, firmly resolute in their correct belief that big government fosters business perversions…..big and small.

Their libertarian “ideology” is rooted in traditional value systems and is, of course, a natural and easy target of derision for progressives who yearn for collectivist “ideals.”

The Kochs are the anti-Soros saviors in the view of many conservatives. They stand against most everything that Soros and his far more “ideologically extreme” organizational and ideological web of influence promotes.

The Kochs are the latest demon in the crosshairs of a desperate progressive movement whose political mojo has blindly run into a brick wall of citizen rejection.

 Everything they support …politically and economically ….is American, for Americans and in the interests of Americans……would be that the same could be said for Mr Soros and his progressive pals.

Your billyclub line: “The ferment being brewed by Koch-financed groups like Americans for Prosperity is paralyzing Washington and preventing the nation from dealing realistically with its many challenges.” is nothing but a tearful whine about the political brick wall you have run into.

Naturally, comments were closed after this one.


Read more: http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/koch-familys-money-goes-only-so-far-kansas/

[miskie]

The thing that always ticked me off about the whole red/blue state thing is that the dems should be considered red. After all, isn't that the communist color?

It still is here - during the primaries, the Republican ballot has a blue header, whereas the Democrat one is red. The Libertarians have an orange header.

[Doc Savage]

Well, it is the same way I felt when I lived in Mass.  But I did not post it all over the internet.

 I live in Kansas.  Wichita and KC are still rather dem leaning (KC more than Wichita).  Get 2 miles out of  the city limits and the old axiom exists.  2 dem votes in a town means the SOB voted twice. 

But, even for all that, Sebilius was the last govenor (her LT is now in office).  Kids of illegals get in-state tuition, the state thinks casinos are the answers for tax revenue and sales taxes are less than low.  It is a right to work state, but unions are a big presence in Wichita with the aircraft industry. 

I guess the crazy teacher is pissed that she cannot got to the clinic on east kellog and get an abortion anymore.  whaaaaaaa!  I did run into her at a birthday party once.  If she knew that I posted on this board, I am sure she would have spoken up and proceeded to produce a bouncy to be posted later.  I on the other hand, sat, listened, drank a beer or 2 and just laughed all the way home.  I am just glad that my kids do not have her as a teacher.  Conferences would be tough.

[Tucker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

olor-based schemes became more widespread with the adoption of color television  in the 1960s and nearly ubiquitous with the advent of color in newspapers. A three-color scheme: red, white and blue, the colors of the U.S. flag, makes sense, as the third color, white, is useful in depicting maps showing states that are "undecided" in the polls and in election-night television coverage.

Early on, some channels used a scheme of red for Democrats and blue for Republicans. The first television news network to use colors to depict the states won by presidential candidates was NBC. In 1976, John Chancellor, the anchorman for the NBC Nightly News, asked his network's engineers to construct a large electronic map of the USA. The map was placed in the network's election-night news studio. If Jimmy Carter, the Democratic candidate that year, won a state it would light up in red; if Gerald Ford, the Republican, carried a state it would light up in blue. The feature proved to be so popular that four years later all three major television networks would use colors to designate the states won by the presidential candidates on Election Night. NBC continued to use the color scheme employed in 1976 for several years; NBC newsman David Brinkley famously referred to the 1980 election map as showing Ronald Reagan's 44-state landslide as resembling a "suburban swimming pool".[7] CBS, from 1984 on, used the opposite scheme: blue for Democrats, red for Republicans. ABC used yellow for one major party and blue for the other in 1976. However, in 1980 and 1984, ABC used red for Republicans and blue for Democrats. As late as 1996, there was still no universal association of one color with one party.[8] If anything, by 1996, color schemes were relatively mixed, as CNN, CBS, ABC, and The New York Times referred to Democratic states with the color blue and Republican ones as red, while Time Magazine and the Washington Post used an opposite scheme.[9][10][11]

I found it interesting that it wasn't really a big deal until color TV's and in print became popular.

[JohnnyReb]

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  I did run into her at a birthday party once.  If she knew that I posted on this board, I am sure she would have spoken up and proceeded to produce a bouncy to be posted later.  I on the other hand, sat, listened, drank a beer or 2 and just laughed all the way home. 

OH MAN !!!!....How in the world did you remain silent?

Now that , my dear friends, is self-control....

[BlueStateSaint]

I did run into her at a birthday party once.  If she knew that I posted on this board, I am sure she would have spoken up and proceeded to produce a bouncy to be posted later.  I on the other hand, sat, listened, drank a beer or 2 and just laughed all the way home.

 

I envy your self-control, sir.  H5 for that.

[crockspot]

According to this site  there was switching even after 1980.  It seems that different TV stations used different colors until very recently, which is why we can't really figure out what is going on  

Yes, this from 76 contradicts the list you published: