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Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« on: March 29, 2008, 12:33:48 PM »
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El Pinko (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 08:44 PM
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Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of human jobs?
 These machines are already getting very sophisticated, as you can see by Honda's ASIMO. It will not be long before they are given the burger-flipper jobs and coffee pourer jobs, leaving what for the humans? Maybe a few robot repair jobs?


I have often said that when these things start remplacing humans en masse, I would not be averse to destroying/sabotaging them.

What do you think?
 
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southerncrone  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 08:55 PM
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13. Yes, I think they are evil.
 Actually, I think they are a positive for doing jobs too dangerous for humans. But those who worship the forcing of technology into every crevice of our lives, will not be satisfied unless they are doing everything.

The problem is they are MACHINES & machines do break down, not to mention their impersonal nature. We have already lost a lot of our connection to one another on a human personal level because of technology. This internet is an example. It connects our minds, but not our beings.

The Unabomber tried to warn us about this. He just used techniques that were too extreme & illegal (bombs!). 
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jo
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 12:35:45 PM »
At first I read this as what will you do when all the 'ronbots' take the jobs.  :o :lmao:


But, in honor of DU's usual concern over that which has not yet happened and may never happen:

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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2008, 12:39:14 PM »
Someone just got done watching I, Robot again......... :mental: Robots have been in industry for years.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 12:45:30 PM »
Robots pretty much function from pure logic.  I don't know what the DUmmies will do when robots run the world.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jo
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 12:47:05 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 29, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
Robots pretty much function from pure logic.  I don't know what the DUmmies will do when robots run the world.

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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2008, 12:53:58 PM »
Oh, "Heck No! (I'll Never Listen To Techno)"  :redbird:

This will be the worst part for sure.  :lmao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxZJYbVd1hE

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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 12:58:16 PM »
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pitohui  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 10:13 PM
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24. my husband's job is programming industrial robots
 Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 10:14 PM by pitohui
they already take lots of people's jobs

destroying the robot and the modern factory is not the way, it was the dream of humanity for hundreds of years to be free of backbreaking and boring labor

instead, once the robots have set us free, there needs to be a fair way to redistribute the wealth, even to those many who can no longer work

i believe that there should be a generous dole, generous public health care, and generous investment in the arts and participatory sports and performance

i do not believe we should sabotage the robot and go back to spending our lives cutting a chicken apart all day long

The emboldened part has absolutely zilch to do with a "robot invasion". Leave it to a DUmbass to take everyone there.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2008, 01:03:28 PM »
This is how the thirteenth colony was lost, you know!



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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jo
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 01:04:31 PM »
Contrary to the chicken littles at the DUmp, manufacturing has gone up 5+% every year but through automation.  The Unions provided the long enough lever to make that happen along with moving unskilled labor overseas. 
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jo
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2008, 01:05:15 PM »
Quote from: LadyLiberty on March 29, 2008, 12:58:16 PM
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pitohui  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 10:13 PM
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24. my husband's job is programming industrial robots
 Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 10:14 PM by pitohui
they already take lots of people's jobs

destroying the robot and the modern factory is not the way, it was the dream of humanity for hundreds of years to be free of backbreaking and boring labor

instead, once the robots have set us free, there needs to be a fair way to redistribute the wealth, even to those many who can no longer work

i believe that there should be a generous dole, generous public health care, and generous investment in the arts and participatory sports and performance

i do not believe we should sabotage the robot and go back to spending our lives cutting a chicken apart all day long

The emboldened part has absolutely zilch to do with a "robot invasion". Leave it to a DUmbass to take everyone there.

I am waiting for a BDS entry.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2008, 02:51:19 PM »
Hey baby, wanna kill all humans?
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2008, 03:28:27 PM »
Quote from: LadyLiberty on March 29, 2008, 12:58:16 PM
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pitohui  (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 10:13 PM
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24. my husband's job is programming industrial robots
 Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 10:14 PM by pitohui
they already take lots of people's jobs

destroying the robot and the modern factory is not the way, it was the dream of humanity for hundreds of years to be free of backbreaking and boring labor

instead, once the robots have set us free, there needs to be a fair way to redistribute the wealth, even to those many who can no longer work

i believe that there should be a generous dole, generous public health care, and generous investment in the arts and participatory sports and performance

i do not believe we should sabotage the robot and go back to spending our lives cutting a chicken apart all day long

The emboldened part has absolutely zilch to do with a "robot invasion". Leave it to a DUmbass to take everyone there.

It pretty much sums up what they are about..letting someone or in this case something provide them with a nirvana which they don`t have to work for.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2008, 03:33:57 PM »
Oh look, this is from the wiki page I stole the Bender robot from:

Kill all humans
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Included in the CMOS of every robot brain is the compulsion to kill all humans. Typically, this compulsion is set to "0" when each of the three laws are set to "1". However, if anything ever changes the values to "0" (usually caused by strong electrostatic discharge; or the robot conceptualizes a logical flaw, then creates its own firmware update and re-flashes itself), then the robot automatically begins exterminating all humans.


It couldn't be in a wiki page if it weren't true!

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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2008, 03:57:15 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on March 29, 2008, 03:33:57 PM
Oh look, this is from the wiki page I stole the Bender robot from:

Kill all humans
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Included in the CMOS of every robot brain is the compulsion to kill all humans. Typically, this compulsion is set to "0" when each of the three laws are set to "1". However, if anything ever changes the values to "0" (usually caused by strong electrostatic discharge; or the robot conceptualizes a logical flaw, then creates its own firmware update and re-flashes itself), then the robot automatically begins exterminating all humans.

One of the better Wiki pages I've seen lately!

 :-)

It couldn't be in a wiki page if it weren't true!

 :ohnoes: :koolaid: :ohnoes: :koolaid:

 
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2008, 04:05:10 PM »
Quote from: Duke Nukum on March 29, 2008, 03:33:57 PM
Oh look, this is from the wiki page I stole the Bender robot from:


Bender is a cool dude,I have talked with him. :cheersmate:
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2008, 08:56:07 PM »
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wuushew (1000+ posts)      Fri Mar-28-08 11:35 PM
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32. I'd rather destroy the current economic system than the promise of robotics
 True Marxism is possible when the basic needs of humanity are exceeded. Advancements in technology mean that less and less human input is required for food and shelter.

Presumably the future workforce of robots would run the farms, work the mines and build other robots so I imagine the contemplative life of self-improvement would be quite enjoyable for even the unskilled.


"the contemplative life of self-improvement"

Translation: Sitting on my ass in my basement huffing a bong full of kind bud.

Which is basically no change from your current, robot-free state.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jo
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2008, 09:07:02 PM »
Uh, in case anybody's forgotten, a primary characteristic of the primitives is their Luddism.

The Luddites, in early 19th century England, were workingmen who went around smashing machines the workingmen thought would do them out of a job.

Well, the machines did do the workingmen out of their jobs, but what also happened was that the workingmen inevitably turned to new jobs, new careers, better jobs.

And the cost of things went down.

Always remember; primitives are Luddites.
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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2008, 03:18:26 PM »
When you have a job with this company whats to worry about?



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Re: Serious hypothetical - what will you do when robots start taking a LOT of jobs
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2008, 09:45:40 PM »
Did it not occur to any of them to say "Loyally serve, service and lubricate our new masters?"

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