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I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« on: October 15, 2010, 05:19:55 PM »
Ok, so I used system repair. It restored my computer to how it was before it got attacked by whatever. However, 1) I can't install my protection. It says the file is already in use (or something to that effect). 2) Sometimes when I am on certain web pages, my computer automactically goes to another page. Different pages. All random. For isntance, if I am in the DUmp, my computer will direct me to another page. It doesn't do this when I am in the Spa. I've cleaned my cookies, etc.


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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 06:38:47 PM »
Without going in depth and taking up a ton of board space, read here: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45925.0.html Do what is suggested.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 06:57:14 PM »
Quote from: Thor on October 15, 2010, 06:38:47 PM
Without going in depth and taking up a ton of board space, read here: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,45925.0.html Do what is suggested.


Thanks!! Will do.

I bought Kaspersky to install, and I haven't been able to do it. Maybe I should try in safe mode? Do you have any experience with Kaspersky? I am so dumb when it comes to these things, and I should never be allowed to go buy these things without someone knowledgeable.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 08:03:20 PM »
Kasperskey came free with my laptop so I installed it. I didn't realize it was only a trial period and it recently expired so I'm going back to Norton or McAfee. It worked fine but every time I booted up or woke up my laptop from hibernation, it would say "database out of date" and then have to go update itself. I'm sure that all anti-virus does that in the background but it annoyed me to see that little pop up.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 08:11:27 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on October 15, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Kasperskey came free with my laptop so I installed it. I didn't realize it was only a trial period and it recently expired so I'm going back to Norton or McAfee. It worked fine but every time I booted up or woke up my laptop from hibernation, it would say "database out of date" and then have to go update itself. I'm sure that all anti-virus does that in the background but it annoyed me to see that little pop up.

I paid $50 for it, so I feel like I need to use it. But if it is funky, I don't want to do it. That is what I get for buying without having a clue!!!!!
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 08:22:52 PM »
Quote from: soleil on October 15, 2010, 06:57:14 PM

Thanks!! Will do.

I bought Kaspersky to install, and I haven't been able to do it. Maybe I should try in safe mode? Do you have any experience with Kaspersky? I am so dumb when it comes to these things, and I should never be allowed to go buy these things without someone knowledgeable.

Definitely try safe mode.  I've installed Kapersky on a few dozen systems.  You will have to un-install whatever you have installed previously (this may require rebooting your computer in the process).
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 08:38:20 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on October 15, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Kasperskey came free with my laptop so I installed it. I didn't realize it was only a trial period and it recently expired so I'm going back to Norton or McAfee. It worked fine but every time I booted up or woke up my laptop from hibernation, it would say "database out of date" and then have to go update itself. I'm sure that all anti-virus does that in the background but it annoyed me to see that little pop up.

Try Avast or AVG instead of Norton of McAfee.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 08:58:28 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on October 15, 2010, 08:22:52 PM
Definitely try safe mode.  I've installed Kapersky on a few dozen systems.  You will have to un-install whatever you have installed previously (this may require rebooting your computer in the process).

Ok, I did uninstall Webroot, which is what I had previously. I will try to install in safe mode and see where it gets me. Will I need internet access to install it 100%?
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2010, 09:02:28 PM »
No, you shouldn't.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2010, 09:20:04 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on October 15, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Kasperskey came free with my laptop so I installed it. I didn't realize it was only a trial period and it recently expired so I'm going back to Norton or McAfee. It worked fine but every time I booted up or woke up my laptop from hibernation, it would say "database out of date" and then have to go update itself. I'm sure that all anti-virus does that in the background but it annoyed me to see that little pop up.

Ummm, go get Avast! It's FREE and it doesn't hog resources like Norton or McCrappy. It's better, too  :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2010, 09:55:11 PM »
are you using internet explorer?  generally speaking, firefox is much less susceptible to these sorts of things.  and I have never heard of it allowing a browser hijack, which is what it sounds like you are dealing with now.  you can download it here.

I am also having a lot of success with google chrome.  you can install it here. 

there are sites (although it is becoming quite rare) that only render properly with internet explorer.  beyond those rare instances, you would pretty much have to hold a gun to my head to make me use IE.

but that is after you get you current problem cleared up.

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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 09:57:05 PM »
Yeah I'm gonna do it tonight.....
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 10:08:03 PM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 15, 2010, 09:55:11 PM
are you using internet explorer?  generally speaking, firefox is much less susceptible to these sorts of things.  and I have never heard of it allowing a browser hijack, which is what it sounds like you are dealing with now.  you can download it here.

I am also having a lot of success with google chrome.  you can install it here. 

there are sites (although it is becoming quite rare) that only render properly with internet explorer.  beyond those rare instances, you would pretty much have to hold a gun to my head to make me use IE.

but that is after you get you current problem cleared up.




Yeah, I so need to use firefox. Not sure why I haven't already.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2010, 10:37:40 PM »
Quote from: soleil on October 15, 2010, 10:08:03 PM

Yeah, I so need to use firefox. Not sure why I haven't already.

it would solve the symptoms of your problem now.  browser hijackings are based on triggers that are buried in windows registry keys.  they only effect IE.  it wouldn't cure the disease, but you wouldn't be bothered by the hijackings.

I have a win2000 laptop somewhere around the house that I am sure is still partially infected by a particularly gnarly virus.  I managed to block the callouts and remove the autoruns (those are the things that make browser hijackings do their dirty work), but I never managed to completely clean the machine.  sometimes, the infection is so freaking bad, that reinstalling the OS is the answer, and it wasn't worth it on such an old machine.

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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2010, 12:11:48 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 15, 2010, 10:37:40 PM
it would solve the symptoms of your problem now.  browser hijackings are based on triggers that are buried in windows registry keys.  they only effect IE.  it wouldn't cure the disease, but you wouldn't be bothered by the hijackings.

I have a win2000 laptop somewhere around the house that I am sure is still partially infected by a particularly gnarly virus.  I managed to block the callouts and remove the autoruns (those are the things that make browser hijackings do their dirty work), but I never managed to completely clean the machine.  sometimes, the infection is so freaking bad, that reinstalling the OS is the answer, and it wasn't worth it on such an old machine.



Send it to me!! :-) I fix it!!
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2010, 12:27:46 AM »
Quote from: Thor on October 16, 2010, 12:11:48 AM
Send it to me!! :-) I fix it!!

maybe I will.  then we would have an uninfected POS laptop.   
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2010, 12:32:04 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 16, 2010, 12:27:46 AM
maybe I will.  then we would have an uninfected POS laptop.   


IF it can handle it, I would probably throw XP on it for ya, too. I'm going to need something to do in a couple of weeks.
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2010, 12:59:39 AM »
Quote from: Thor on October 16, 2010, 12:32:04 AM


IF it can handle it, I would probably throw XP on it for ya, too. I'm going to need something to do in a couple of weeks.

I'm not sure it could push XP.  are you creating a haven for homeless, antiquated computers? :-)
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2010, 09:20:07 AM »
Quote from: Wretched Excess on October 16, 2010, 12:59:39 AM
I'm not sure it could push XP.  are you creating a haven for homeless, antiquated computers? :-)

I do have a propensity to collect old things....... I'm running XP on an old Toshiba Laptop w/ a 1 GHz Celeron and 512 Meg RAM. It's painfully slow as compared to the new desktop I built w/ an AMD PhenomII X6 and 4 GB RAM. I just got another hard drive for the new desktop. 2 TB :-) Was $70 from Newegg....
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Re: I semi-fixed my computer I was having problems with. Question
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2010, 05:08:25 PM »
Quote from: DixieBelle on October 15, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Kasperskey came free with my laptop so I installed it. I didn't realize it was only a trial period and it recently expired so I'm going back to Norton or McAfee. It worked fine but every time I booted up or woke up my laptop from hibernation, it would say "database out of date" and then have to go update itself. I'm sure that all anti-virus does that in the background but it annoyed me to see that little pop up.

I rarely turn off my desktops and I don't have that problem. Also, most anti-virus programs have a setting as to when they update. That can be changed.
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