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Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« on: October 15, 2010, 12:17:28 PM »
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According to Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed, president of the Islamic Sharia Council in Britain, it is not possible for rape to occur in marriage. He claims women falsify rape claims to try and obtain a divorce. If a woman is brutalized by her husband, he claims this is undesirable, but an apology should suffice. Sayeed runs the largest network of Sharia courts in the UK. His comments have brought an outcry among law enforcement officials who fear that Sayeed's comments will further discourage women from reporting being raped. (hat tip Danielle)

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 05:12:22 PM »
So, in other words, the "husband" can force themselves upon their wives anytime they want and it will not be considered rape?!?! "Religion of Peace" seems a little too  :mental: for me. All this coming from a mooselim cleric too.

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 05:14:09 PM »
This is exactly what sets people off. Most Muslim women are treated like slaves. An apology should not suffice if you are held down against your will for anything. And I do believe rape can and does happen in some marriages. No means no. Period.

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2010, 05:35:09 PM »
This is exactly what sets people off. Most Muslim women are treated like slaves. An apology should not suffice if you are held down against your will for anything. And I do believe rape can and does happen in some marriages. No means no. Period.
No means I'll be down at the booby-hatchery hatching boobies. Period.
According to the Bible, "know" means "yes."

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2010, 05:37:32 PM »
No means I'll be down at the booby-hatchery hatching boobies. Period.

But I still only have 2 boobies. ;)

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2010, 05:40:50 PM »
This is exactly what sets people off. Most Muslim women are treated like slaves. An apology should not suffice if you are held down against your will for anything. And I do believe rape can and does happen in some marriages. No means no. Period.

That's nice to know....but a little late.

Once in 18 years I refused my X old lady and all manner of hell broke loose. I should have sued the bitch then for a divorce on the grounds of attemped rape and physical cruelty.

Good for the goose good for the gander....and it would have saved me a lot of grief and a pile of money.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2010, 10:50:06 PM »
But I still only have 2 boobies. ;)
Hence the reason men invented booby hatcheries.  :fuelfire:
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2010, 11:04:57 PM »
any outrage from the DUmp or NOW?

and bitchslapped for only haveing two boobiez.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 12:19:01 AM »
Those NOW people sure get up in the faces of any Western man who looks cross eyed at a woman, but they WILL shut the **** up when it comes to speaking out against Muslims who rape their wives and murder their daughters for "family honor", because either they don't want to hurt the sensibilities of Islamists or they're afraid to speak out publically for fear of being the next victim.
I am convinced the main reason most public figures won't flat out condemn Islamic extremists and the less than stellar tenents of their religion are literally scared for their own skins.  Those ****ers don't issue idle threats and for every Jewish or Christian nutbag who goes haywire and guns down his perceived enemies, there's hundreds of Muslim crazies ready to do the same if they could only get across our border.
Hell, I shudder to think of how many of them have infiltrated our southern border.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 01:44:55 AM »
But I still only have 2 boobies. ;)

Well, I'll have to check those, I can't just take your word for it, ma'am.

On the reality check level, it is important to keep in mind that this cleric's idea was also the standard in English and American common law, and was the legal rule in the US up until very recent years.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2010, 08:20:22 AM »
Well, I'll have to check those, I can't just take your word for it, ma'am.

On the reality check level, it is important to keep in mind that this cleric's idea was also the standard in English and American common law, and was the legal rule in the US up until very recent years.

True, but English common law NEVER condoned so-called honor killings. 
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2010, 09:05:15 AM »
Well, I'll have to check those, I can't just take your word for it, ma'am.

On the reality check level, it is important to keep in mind that this cleric's idea was also the standard in English and American common law, and was the legal rule in the US up until very recent years.

Are you speaking of the Napoleonic laws that were enforced in some of the deep south until the early 1970's.?

Example would be that after marriage any money or property that the wife made or inherited belonged to the husband.?  A husband could sell of property his wife inherited with out telling her, a woman had no right to any property or money from the husband unless he consented.?

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2010, 11:55:27 AM »
Are you speaking of the Napoleonic laws that were enforced in some of the deep south until the early 1970's.?

Example would be that after marriage any money or property that the wife made or inherited belonged to the husband.?  A husband could sell of property his wife inherited with out telling her, a woman had no right to any property or money from the husband unless he consented.?

Well she should have married in S.C.. In S.C. any money and anything a woman owned when she got married was hers and hers alone. Any money and anything else a man owned automatically became 1/2 "HERS". She could buy and or sale realestate without his permission or signature. He had to have her signature for real estate sales even if her name wasn't on the deeds.

DUmb bitches  demanded equal rights and S.C. finally gave them their equal rights... in the mid 80's :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:....then they didn't like 'em but it was to late... :lmao: :lmao:

Now when a man marries, any money or realestate he brings to the marriage is his and his alone and if the marriage fails, he takes it with him and she gets none of it..... :lmao:

They were one year to slow passing the equal rights for women in S.C. to do me any good though... :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

Sorry, but I learned my lesson. The current wife owns her diamond ring and the clothes/shoes in her closet...the rest, pots, pans furniture, etc. is all mine until I die... :-)....with age comes wisdom.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 06:43:22 PM »
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 06:53:17 PM »
You had to post this, didn't you?  This old POS (piece of sh**) couldn't have it any other way.  Likely he has had several young girls pledged to him by their animal families.  Muslims are the most animalistic creatures that crawl this earth.  This is yet one more proof of that FACT. 

Thanks for setting me off once again.  Likely I will get banned for this anti-islam rant, but believe it with every ounce of my humanism.

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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2010, 08:10:41 PM »
Are you speaking of the Napoleonic laws that were enforced in some of the deep south until the early 1970's.?

Example would be that after marriage any money or property that the wife made or inherited belonged to the husband.?  A husband could sell of property his wife inherited with out telling her, a woman had no right to any property or money from the husband unless he consented.?

The one and only state whose laws flowed from the Code Napoleon is Louisiana, whose law had nothing whatsoever to do with the English Common Law; the legal traditions of the other 49 states ALL come from the English Common Law, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Code Napoleon.  Jesus, Vesta, read a book.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2010, 10:58:16 PM »
The one and only state whose laws flowed from the Code Napoleon is Louisiana, whose law had nothing whatsoever to do with the English Common Law; the legal traditions of the other 49 states ALL come from the English Common Law, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the Code Napoleon.  Jesus, Vesta, read a book.

Napoleonic codes are civil law which most nations use worldwide. Louisiana was a French colony and has French influence to this day. America is one of the few places that uses common law.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2010, 11:08:25 PM »
Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric 


That's what this guy thought too.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 11:43:37 PM »
Is it just me. Is Islam more prone to producing psychopaths/sociopaths?
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2010, 11:51:42 PM »
Is it just me. Is Islam more prone to producing psychopaths/sociopaths?

I think that it is an argument for the "nurture" aspect of human behavior.  When boys are raised in an environment where women are abused consistently and treated with contempt and abuse, they begin to consider it normal.  Much as children who are raised in abusive homes have a higher likelihood of becoming abusers.  Just imagine how much more influence an entire society where women could be beaten on the streets for walking with shoes that make too much noise, or for speaking to a non-related male, would have on a developing psyche.

I honestly can't think of another society where women have been so consistently abused.  If anybody knows of one, please share it.  I realize that marital rape and domestic abuse were "legal" for much of western history, but even so, it doesn't seem like it ever reached the point that Islamic society is at now.  "Honor killings" were never a large part of western history. 


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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2010, 10:41:06 AM »
I think that it is an argument for the "nurture" aspect of human behavior.  When boys are raised in an environment where women are abused consistently and treated with contempt and abuse, they begin to consider it normal.  Much as children who are raised in abusive homes have a higher likelihood of becoming abusers.  Just imagine how much more influence an entire society where women could be beaten on the streets for walking with shoes that make too much noise, or for speaking to a non-related male, would have on a developing psyche.

I honestly can't think of another society where women have been so consistently abused.  If anybody knows of one, please share it.  I realize that marital rape and domestic abuse were "legal" for much of western history, but even so, it doesn't seem like it ever reached the point that Islamic society is at now.  "Honor killings" were never a large part of western history. 



Nurture does play a role. I read that people who engage in domestic violence, like wife beating, are paranoid. Paranoid people are insecure, control freaks, feel everyone is out to harm them, and harbor grudges. Also, paranoid people are most violence prone.
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Re: Rape 'impossible' in marriage, says Muslim cleric
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 10:50:34 AM »
Nurture does play a role. I read that people who engage in domestic violence, like wife beating, are paranoid. Paranoid people are insecure, control freaks, feel everyone is out to harm them, and harbor grudges. Also, paranoid people are most violence prone.

It's okay to beat your wife and children as long as you don't leave marks on them, or so says a Muslim judge.  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39718046/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/