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Offline franksolich

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primitives getting ready for winter
« on: October 07, 2010, 10:04:40 AM »
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lizziegrace  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-04-10 04:38 PM
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Getting my first oil delivery of the season tomorrow

150 gallons @ 2.77/gallon. Friday, it was $2.67.

I used just under 550 gallons last winter. We'll see how bad this one's going to be.

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Paper Roses  (1000+ posts)      Mon Oct-04-10 05:25 PM
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1. I am scared to death about the fuel deliveries starting soon. 

This old house is hard to heat. I close off everything I can but it still costs thousands of dollars a year. Old houses tend not to have insulation and I have no $$$$ to take care of that. I hunker down in two rooms downstairs, bedroom upstairs and basically, I freeze. I find it necessary to use an old filled heater. My electricity bill will go through the roof. I hate winter, it breaks my wallet every year.

I tanked up at the end of spring so no delivery yet. I cringe at the thought.

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lizziegrace  (1000+ posts)        Mon Oct-04-10 05:38 PM
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2. I can relate

I used oil-filled electric radiator heaters last winter. One electric bill hit over $200. The heat doesn't make it to the second floor as this old, old house wasn't made for forced-air heating and cooling.

I put the 3M tape and plastic over the windows since there's a breeze even when the storm windows are down. It helped a lot but covering 21 windows was time consuming and expensive.

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Paper Roses  (1000+ posts)      Tue Oct-05-10 06:29 AM
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3. I am about ready to start my annual chore. I use the strips of caulking type material and run it all around all windows and also across the spot where the top and bottom meet. It helps with the breezes that flow through, I am not up to covering all the windows with plastic sheeting, the cold permeates the walls. I would have to take down all the curtains to do that too. Not something I would like to do.

What do you use the 3M tape for, to hold the plastic? Is this something that does not have to be heat sealed? Does it peel the paint off?

I'd like to find a different way of doing this job. Tape would seal off the gaps at the edges and would probably be easier to remove.

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lizziegrace  (1000+ posts)        Tue Oct-05-10 11:35 AM
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4. 3M brand is the only one that consistently holds the plastic in place for the season. It can (and has) taken the paint off but it's easier to touch it up than to pay huge heating bills. Frost King and other brands you can find at Lowes and Home Depot have plastic that's much thinner and the tape doesn't hold.

I left the plastic up on several windows from last winter since I don't open them. (I have 21 windows) A few have had the tape pull away, but I'll replace it and press it back to the frame.

Other than heavy, insulated drapes, I don't know of any other way to keep the cold air from coming in through the windows.

I also have the problem with it coming through the walls. My house has brick walls (3 layers thick) with 1/2" plaster on the inside. It's a pizza oven in the summer when the brick heats up and a freezer in the winter when the brick gets cold. You can feel the cold air on your back if you sit near an exterior wall.

I love this old house, but it makes for a long, cold winter.
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 10:12:35 AM »
...but I thought the world was getting hotter?
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2010, 10:18:17 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on October 07, 2010, 10:12:35 AM
...but I thought the world was getting hotter?

And what about all those "green jobs" Cap and Trade was supposed to create?    :rotf:

I'd love to see how much whining they'd do if that C&P POS had really passed and was now law.   :rotf:

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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 10:19:41 AM »
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1. I am scared to death about the fuel deliveries starting soon. 

This old house is hard to heat. I close off everything I can but it still costs thousands of dollars a year. Old houses tend not to have insulation and I have no $$$$ to take care of that. I hunker down in two rooms downstairs, bedroom upstairs and basically, I freeze. I find it necessary to use an old filled heater. My electricity bill will go through the roof. I hate winter, it breaks my wallet every year.

I tanked up at the end of spring so no delivery yet. I cringe at the thought.

But, but I thought Obamao had a program to help people insulate houses if they used union labor.
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2010, 10:20:15 AM »
Yup--by my guess, I'd say I'm going to go through about 500-550 gallons this winter, if the Farmer's Almanac predictions are correct (bitter cold, average snowfall).

I did about 400-425 last winter (started with full tank, got 350 in two top offs, have a 1/2 tank now.)

Oh, and DUmmies--$2.549 cash price in my town.  Still cheaper than the prebuy of $2.69/gal so far.

Poor dumb bastards.
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2010, 12:37:28 PM »
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Getting my first oil delivery of the season tomorrow

150 gallons @ 2.77/gallon. Friday, it was $2.67.

I used just under 550 gallons last winter. We'll see how bad this one's going to be.
Oh yes you will Lizzie Borden!! Wait till your hero, the Zero, passes that wonderful energy bill, Cap & Trade! Brace yourself for some serious price hikes you DUmmies. I wonder how many of you idiot DUmmies will still be on board with "globull warming" once you see your heating/electricty bills. IDIOTS!!! :bird: :censored:
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2010, 01:05:22 PM »
First, why is the DUchebag killing mother Gia by burning oil at all?

Second, the Farmer's Amanac predicts a very cold winter.  AlGore or the Farmer's Almanac...mmmm...which one would I go with?
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Re: primitives getting ready for winter
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 01:12:13 PM »
I'll be cozying up to my wood stove in the shop! I open the door to the house, ( mobile home ), and it heats it up nicely! I think I've spent about $12 in chainsaw gas so far. My SIL brings me cedar ties they use in their concrete prefab plant every year too!
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