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Obama: 'All Americans are safer' because of Medal of Honor winner's actions
   
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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/20...

As the Afghanistan war enters its 10th year on Thursday, President Obama awarded the nation's highest military honor today to a Green Beret who gave his life to save more than 20 U.S. and Afghan comrades.

The Medal of Honor went to the parents of Army Staff Sgt. Robert Miller, 24, who drew enemy fire away from his squad after a 2008 ambush by the Taliban in northwest Afghanistan.

During a somber ceremony at the White House, Obama said Miller embodies the dangerous yet often secretive work of the Special Forces.

"Few Americans ever see their service," Obama said. "All Americans are safer because of it."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9268986

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew the DUmp would react badly.

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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
   
Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Then impeach Obama.  :-)

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2. The president is starting to piss me off

Hell he's been pissing me off for 20 months.

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4. ok, what the **** would you like him to tell the family, at his MOH ceremony? that they are suckers
   
and the kid died in vain (which basically, he did)?

jesus christ, have you that much of a tin ear?

Well if he did he would have at least been honest about how he felt.
This happened when * was president so the war was still bad back then.

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3. While I salute Sgt Miller for his incredible bravery and for sacrificing his life for his comrades..
   
his actions have had a net effect of ZERO on the safety of Americans in the US.

Saying otherwise is simply pandering.

No saying other wise is appreciating that he had the balls to defend the country. Most of you cowards at DU don't even have enough courage to read a message board that allows conservatives to speak.

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5. I'm glad the President is honoring the fallen for their heroism.
   
So thanks for posting that article.



Then along comes the shame that people can't quit pissing on the wheaties long enough to just let it stand...

Hi 5 to this primitive.

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6. i know, i guess he's supposed to tell the grieving family he saves his buddies for nothing.
   
some folks will find any excuse to fire up the outrage cannon.
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Most of DU is like that.

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8. Those parents raised a son who gave up his life for his comrades
   
and for some Afghans as well. They must be so proud, even in their grief--God bless them.

Sometimes I think there may be some hope for a select few of the primitives.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Here is a companion thread where they continue to spit on the troops.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9268162

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4. No. And as a veteran, that lie ****ing incenses me.
   
No uniformed American has "fought for our freedoms" since 1946. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar and a shameless flag-waving ****basket.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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No saying other wise is appreciating that he had the balls to defend the country. Most of you cowards at DU don't even have enough courage to read a message board that allows conservatives to speak.

 :hi5: for a very concise assessment of the Dump.

For the DUmmies belittling this persons service... :bird:

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The actions of the US military overseas have saved countless lives in the US.

Regrettably most of those lives reside in liberal metropolitan areas.

OUT OF AFGHANISTAN NOW!
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dionysus  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list       Wed Oct-06-10 06:28 PM
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4. ok, what the **** would you like him to tell the family, at his MOH ceremony? that they are suckers
   
and the kid died in vain (which basically, he did)?

jesus christ, have you that much of a tin ear?
OH REEAALLLYYY?!?!?!?  Do you have that much of a pea sized brain?! Those troops are fighting for our safety from terrorism and they are doing WAY MORE for our Country than what that imposter occupying the White House does, that's for sure! You DUmmies hate the military and yet you have freedoms. :mental:

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OH REEAALLLYYY?!?!?!?  Do you have that much of a pea sized brain?! Those troops are fighting for our safety from terrorism and they are doing WAY MORE for our Country than what that imposter occupying the White House does, that's for sure! You DUmmies hate the military and yet you have freedoms. :mental:

They hate their freedoms though. With freedom comes responsibility, and they hate responsibility. When you are responsible you have to give up the bong, cut your hair and get a J O B.  :-)
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Notice how Obama is handing out the CMOH right around election time?
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Notice how Obama is handing out the CMOH right around election time?

I would think the last thing he would want to do is remind his base that the "illegal" war that Bush started wasn't ended yet.

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mike_c  (1000+ posts)        Wed Oct-06-10 06:22 PM
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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
 Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan.

Is there anyway we can air drop this bastard into Waziristan?
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Notice how Obama is handing out the CMOH right around election time?
Very true. How many times has he praised or mentioned how well our military does over there fighting the wars? Almost never, only close to election time.

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Very true. How many times has he praised or mentioned how well our military does over there fighting the wars? Almost never, only close to election time.
Honestly I am waiting for the whole "Bush didn't care enough about the troops to give them the MoH" screeching.
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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
   
Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan I am saying or doing in the U.S. makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan my existence.

Modified for truth.

I have expressed the sentiment before and it bears repeating - If it would bring our good Staff Sgt. Miller back, I would happily march every treasonous bastard of this ilk at DU into a wood chipper, and go home and sleep soundly that night.
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Modified for truth.

I have expressed the sentiment before and it bears repeating - If it would bring our good Staff Sgt. Miller back, I would happily march every treasonous bastard of this ilk at DU into a wood chipper, and go home and sleep soundly that night.

And I would happily buy you the fuel to run your wood chipper, and serve you a sandwich and a beer when the task was complete.  Hell.  I would even power wash your chipper while you ate that sandwich.  (The only reason I wouldn't help you with the actual chipping is my knack for self-injury, can't do as much damage with the power washer.)
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How many MOH has he given out 2 and Bush did so many more. I bet he hated giving it out he is just using the military to TRY to stay in office
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And I would happily buy you the fuel to run your wood chipper, and serve you a sandwich and a beer when the task was complete.  Hell.  I would even power wash your chipper while you ate that sandwich.  (The only reason I wouldn't help you with the actual chipping is my knack for self-injury, can't do as much damage with the power washer.)

I don't know.  Northern Tool sells some mighty potent power washers. 

I've etched concrete, and taken decals (and paint!) off of trucks with one.    :uhsure:

4,500 psi is nothing to trifle with! 

You could put an eye out with one of those. :rotf:
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mike_c  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list       Wed Oct-06-10 06:22 PM
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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
    
Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan.

You sorry sack of dog shit.  You are example A of people that should be excluded from the protections provided by those of us in uniform.  Since you seem to take great pleasure in spitting on what we do...how we do it and when we do it.

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Is there anyway we can air drop this bastard into Waziristan?

I'd be more than happy to push him out the front gate and onto the streets of Tarin Kot all by his lonesome.
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid

The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

If it walks like a donkey and brays like a donkey and smells like a donkey - it's Cold Warrior.  - PoliCon



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Hey lurking DUmmies...THIS is waht people iwth real courage do:

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First, it was just a single insurgent, jumping out from behind a boulder.  Then, the whole valley seemed to explode with gunfire.  Within seconds, Rob and his patrol were pinned down, with almost no cover -- bullets and rocket-propelled grenades raining down from every direction.  And when enemy reinforcements poured in, the odds were overwhelming.  Rob’s small patrol of two dozen men was nearly surrounded by almost 150 insurgents.

With the enemy just feets away -- some so close he could see their faces -- Rob held his ground.  Despite the chaos around him, he radioed back enemy positions.  As the only Pashto speaker on his team, he organized the Afghan soldiers around him.  But the incoming fire, in the words of one soldier, was simply “astounding.”

Rob made a decision.  He called for his team to fall back.  And then he did something extraordinary.  Rob moved in the other direction -- toward the enemy, drawing their guns away from his team and bringing the fire of all those insurgents down upon himself.

The fighting was ferocious.  Rob seemed to disappear into clouds of dust and debris, but his team could hear him on the radio, still calling out the enemy’s position.  And they could hear his weapon still firing as he provided cover for his men.  And then, over the radio, they heard his voice.  He had been hit.  But still, he kept calling out enemy positions.  Still, he kept firing.  Still, he kept throwing his grenades.  And then they heard it -- Rob’s weapon fell silent.


Like the firefighters and first responders on 9/11...he moved forward while others were moving back.  Wounded once he continued to push forward towards the enemy.  It took another rifle round entering his chest under his left armpit to stop his one man offensive against the enemy.


Selfless service...putting the needs of others above your own...even if it means your life.  Those of us in uniform understand that concept and live it every day.

It's a concept you idiots will NEVER understand.
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When GWB used a term like "Americans are safer" with regard to our military the primitives screeched to high heaven. The ones in that thread who sound like they're making some kind of sense are doing so out of loyalty to their party and their guy in office. 

RIP and Godspeed SSG Miller.  You're a hero to me no matter who is occupying the Oval Office.

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mike_c    Wed Oct-06-10 06:22 PM
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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
   
Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan.

I say we ship mikey and the rest "like-minded progressives" to Asscrackastan.  They seem to obsess over it so much.
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All this while the Obama White House was busy turning away MoH recipients and their families.
http://www.military.com/news/article/wh-tour-denied-for-hero-heros-family.html?ESRC=navy-a.nl

September 30, 2010
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Medal of Honor recipient Thomas Norris was turned away from a White House tour on Sept. 25 after the Secret Service neglected to clear him. Also nixed from the tour was the family of another Medal of Honor recipient, the late Vernon Baker, because the hero's grandson was wearing a T-shirt and shorts.

The 10-year-old boy's T-shirt was emblazoned with the image of his celebrated grandfather, who had just been buried a day earlier at Arlington National Cemetery. Norris, a Navy lieutenant who was awarded the Medal of Honor for rescuing two downed pilots in Vietnam, had accompanied accompanied the Baker family to Washington, D.C., for the military burial.

Baker was awarded the Medal of Honor for heroic actions in an attack on a German stronghold during World War II.

Since the incident the White House has moved to make amends by inviting the Baker family and Norris back.

“We would have loved to have hosted 10-year-old Vernon and his family at the White House and we have reached out to the Baker family and Lt. Norris to communicate our deep regret and invite them back to the White House,” spokesman Adam Abrams said. “This family, as well as Lt. Norris, have given so much to our nation and they have our sincerest appreciation and our apologies for this misunderstanding.”

Norris, a retired FBI agent and Navy Seal, said he was turned away at the White House by an employee of the Office of Management and Budget because the Secret Service had not run a security clearance on him.

"He apologized," Norris said. "He told me the Secret Service has informed me they haven't had time to do a background check and you can't get in."
Moments later, after Norris gave up his place in the tour to the Baker family's driver, who had clearance, Baker's grandson, Vernon Pawlik, 10, was denied entry because he was wearing shorts and the T-Shirt bearing his grandfather's image. Also on the tour were Vernon Baker's widow, Heidy and her daughter Alexandra.

At that point the family gave up and left the White House, Norris said.

It's unclear why tour officials made reference to the boy's attire. There's no dress code for White House tours and the St. Maries Gazette newspaper in the family's hometown reported today that the family had checked about possible dress codes ahead of time just to make sure.

Norris said he wondered why when questions arose no one in charge stepped forward to assess the circumstances.

"You would think there would be someone there to stand up and say, 'I'm a supervisor and we can make an exception" for a living Medal of Honor recipient and the grandson of another.

Norris said that little Vernon was looking forward to the tour and the chance to meet President Obama. He even bought a copy of Obama's book, in case he got a chance to get the president's signature.

As it turned out, Obama was out of town on Saturday.

The whole incident "is beyond understanding," said Norris, who was awarded the nation's highest honor for military service in 1976 for his actions in Vietnam in 1972.

Vernon Baker, the boy's grandfather, was the only living black World War II veteran to receive the Medal of Honor for uncommon valor. In 1945 he rallied the troops after their commander deserted and took a German stronghold in Italy, taking out three machine gun nests, two bunkers and an observation post.
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Norris, a retired FBI agent and Navy Seal, said he was turned away at the White House by an employee of the Office of Management and Budget because the Secret Service had not run a security clearance on him.

Now take this and compare it will the fact that Bill Ayers seems to have his own key to the front door.

Unbelievable...
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BTW, DUmmies--(and Obama, but I repeat myself):

One does not "win" the CMH.  It is awarded.  One is a recipient of the CMH.

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mike_c  (1000+ posts)        Wed Oct-06-10 06:22 PM
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1. I don't accept that or believe it....
 Nothing that the American military is doing in Afghanistan makes us any safer or improves our lives in any way. There is zero positive justification for the wars against either Iraq or Afghanistan.


...as opposed to this jackass, who is a professional bug sniffer.  :whatever:

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Is there anyway we can air drop this bastard into Waziristan?

I don't think I've heard this jerk say a positive word about ANYTHING. Of course he spends his days with bugs and hippies. Still, that's no excuse. He lives in one of the most beautiful areas on the west coast yet he's so freaking negative all the time. Maybe he needs to get his fat, ugly hands around some Humboldt County homegrown brownies with extra buds and chocolate chips.

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